My ideal candidate.

[magikusar]

1 lower gov spending and taxation massively
2 allow privatization to work
3 be polytheistic and keep gods away from money and politics, use private charity, but cutting taxes adn spending 75% fix this almost by definition
4 no wars, trade instead
5 end government school
6 end fed and all governmetn finance including bonds, if gov wants to spend must tax this year for it
7 end leverage investments and have banking reform
8 end fanny freddy
9 end any requirement use union
10 end all union pensions
11 end all gov contracts and rewrite them all
12 end all foriegn aid, including aid to un world bank world court nato etc etc
13 trade with everyone
14 end all university grants, promote private science research
15 end most copywrites and patents esp on software
16 enforce net neutrality and protect privacy
17 work to move from lawyers to software
18 promote private transport and crush teamsetrs and other corrosive unions
19 privatize fire n cops
20 end all racism lawsuits
21 make laws such that online ads consumers see pay consumer not the website so people can have ad paid for internet
22 remove all taxes on internet
23 use the military to guard managem and build dozens of nuclear powerplants and end oil dependency
24 allow building of private electical charge stations along public highways
25 end divorce payments, and make all marraiges sign contract as to what happens upon divorce up front
26 make it such that man has to sign he wants a baby, if not womans responsability if she not have abortion
27 term limits for all politicians
28 promote free software in all gov agencies
29 end wall welfare and privatize medicare and medicaid which are 74% of gdp
30 reduce defens espending but make management much better defens eis 19% of gdp and yes invets everything but better moved to guarding nuclear power and making dozens fo nuclear power plants based on sodium reactors liek france has developed
31 promote home schooling and have cntralized tests by private interests for medical and other schooling and allow mass production fo hospitals and trained doctors to commodify medicine and amek it ncie n cheap, end AMA if needbe


closest is Ron Paul who is ideal republican candidate but somehow romney and santorum getting more votes aong with newt, how can this be?

Also Gary johnson awesome candidate not allowed in msot debates, kick ass former gov of nm

What is wrong with people?

[MM2K]

The thing that is wrong with these people is that they are for NO government, not SMALL government. Sorry, but government HAS to be involved somewhat in our lives. Its a tragedy, but unfortunately its true. The fact that libertarians cant accept this makes them a different kind of utopian, but never the less it makes them utopian. This is a view that the American people have rejected, and they will always reject it. And that's why libertarians will continue to lose.

[magikusar]

The thing that is wrong with these people is that they are for NO government, not SMALL government. Sorry, but government HAS to be involved somewhat in our lives. Its a tragedy, but unfortunately its true. The fact that libertarians cant accept this makes them a different kind of utopian, but never the less it makes them utopian. This is a view that the American people have rejected, and they will always reject it. And that's why libertarians will continue to lose.

no no libertarians just want far far less government.  Your writing smaks fo exterem weird picture msnbc and oreilly aliek have of libertarians.

Where does this picture come from?

read capitalism.org or lp.org

basically reduce lots of governmetn and people can see the vision that its not needed at all and thsi huge voergrown weed patch can be trimmed bigtime and everyone and everything will operate way way wya better

[Hugo Chavez]

Some of this I agree with and some of it I don't.  Some of it deserves its own thread but some of what you said lacks full consideration like: " allow building of private electical charge stations along public highways"  what the hell is this?  Whatever it is, I hope you realise it's going to snag land from private property to do it.

[whork]

If RP had FOX support he would win in a land-slide.

Fuck FOX they have betrayed the conservatives they are a bunch of dirty corrupt neocons now

[avxo]

14 end all university grants, promote private science research

Have you ever gotten a grant for a government research project? They don't just throw money away. The money is used for serious scientific research, often in areas that are completely outside the interests of corporations. A good example are grants for improved computer modeling of nuclear weapons in storage; this allow for a continuing evaluation of the nation's nuclear arsenal without having to dismantle weapons, and helps to ensure that weapons are serviced and retired at the right time.

15 end most copywrites and patents esp on software

Why end copyright on software? I'm a software engineer and I'm sick and tired of having people who know nothing about my industry tell me how it should be run.

16 enforce net neutrality and protect privacy

You have no idea how networks operate, do you? If you and a million other people want to watch Netflix your ISP has increase their capacity and their hardware or rate limit traffic to Netfix. Someone has to pay for that. Why shouldn't your ISP be able to say "Netflix, if you pay me $xxx your traffic will be prioritized and not rate limited"? It results in better service to you - the consumer - for less money.

You're a fucking troll.

[Soul Crusher]

Have you ever gotten a grant for a government research project? They don't just throw money away. The money is used for serious scientific research, often in areas that are completely outside the interests of corporations. A good example are grants for improved computer modeling of nuclear weapons in storage; this allow for a continuing evaluation of the nation's nuclear arsenal without having to dismantle weapons, and helps to ensure that weapons are serviced and retired at the right time.


Why end copyright on software? I'm a software engineer and I'm sick and tired of having people who know nothing about my industry tell me how it should be run.


You have no idea how networks operate, do you? If you and a million other people want to watch Netflix your ISP has increase their capacity and their hardware or rate limit traffic to Netfix. Someone has to pay for that. Why shouldn't your ISP be able to say "Netflix, if you pay me $xxx your traffic will be prioritized and not rate limited"? It results in better service to you - the consumer - for less money.

You're a fucking troll.

African Ball Washing definately comes to mind.   

[Purge_WTF]

Fuck FOX they have betrayed the conservatives they are a bunch of dirty corrupt neocons now

  "Now"?

[magikusar]

Some of this I agree with and some of it I don't.  Some of it deserves its own thread but some of what you said lacks full consideration like: " allow building of private electical charge stations along public highways"  what the hell is this?  Whatever it is, I hope you realise it's going to snag land from private property to do it.

no no highway is public land I would say let the existing highway in some areas be used for charing stations.  unions will try to block as teamster grip on transport is challenged

[whork]

  "Now"?

Sorry they have always been, but some people actually see them as conservative which is insulting
BB, 333... Im looking at you

[Soul Crusher]

Sorry they have always been, but some people actually see them as conservative which is insulting
BB, 333... Im looking at you

LOL - show me one post kneepadding Fox - just one will do. 

[whork]

LOL - show me one post kneepadding Fox - just one will do. 

"Al Queda loves MSNBC and was upset when Keith O was fired. Hates Fox News "

[Soul Crusher]

"Al Queda loves MSNBC and was upset when Keith O was fired. Hates Fox News "

that was the title of the article as reported by BI and what members of al queada wrote! 

[magikusar]

Have you ever gotten a grant for a government research project? They don't just throw money away. The money is used for serious scientific research, often in areas that are completely outside the interests of corporations. A good example are grants for improved computer modeling of nuclear weapons in storage; this allow for a continuing evaluation of the nation's nuclear arsenal without having to dismantle weapons, and helps to ensure that weapons are serviced and retired at the right time.


In your opinion.

Why end copyright on software? I'm a software engineer and I'm sick and tired of having people who know nothing about my industry tell me how it should be run.

I work in software industry your assumption wrong.

You have no idea how networks operate, do you? If you and a million other people want to watch Netflix your ISP has increase their capacity and their hardware or rate limit traffic to Netfix. Someone has to pay for that. Why shouldn't your ISP be able to say "Netflix, if you pay me $xxx your traffic will be prioritized and not rate limited"? It results in better service to you - the consumer - for less money.

This is called investment yes.  What are you babbling about?  Net neutrality means ISP has to equalize prices.


You're a fucking troll.


In your unsophisticated opinon perhaps.  I can wear that as a badge of honor.

[avxo]

LOL... Such a sophisticated answer! "In your opinion" is the answer of those who can't refute a single word. You're funny troll.

[AbrahamG]

Dennis Kucinich on social policy.
Ron Paul on foreign policy.

Combine the two and you have the perfect candidate.

[howardroark]

The thing that is wrong with these people is that they are for NO government, not SMALL government. Sorry, but government HAS to be involved somewhat in our lives. Its a tragedy, but unfortunately its true. The fact that libertarians cant accept this makes them a different kind of utopian, but never the less it makes them utopian. This is a view that the American people have rejected, and they will always reject it. And that's why libertarians will continue to lose.

They are for neither "no government" or necessarily "small government" but for limited government. It is the Big Government of the Republicans and the Big Government of the Democrats that has brought this country to the brink of bankruptcy and your favorite candidate, Mitt Obamalite Romney is just going to continue the failed policies of the past.

[howardroark]

Have you ever gotten a grant for a government research project? They don't just throw money away. The money is used for serious scientific research, often in areas that are completely outside the interests of corporations. A good example are grants for improved computer modeling of nuclear weapons in storage; this allow for a continuing evaluation of the nation's nuclear arsenal without having to dismantle weapons, and helps to ensure that weapons are serviced and retired at the right time.

Research for military purposes is one thing. However, the government is funding too much research which is completely outside the scope of government. Scientific research should be focused where there is the highest demand for it - in other words, scientific research should be done by the private, for-profit sector. Profits direct resources far better than a monolithic government.

Why end copyright on software? I'm a software engineer and I'm sick and tired of having people who know nothing about my industry tell me how it should be run.

Removing a special privilege the industry you work for enjoys is not the same as telling you how it should be run.

[garebear]

George W. Bush!!!!

[MM2K]

no no libertarians just want far far less government.  Your writing smaks fo exterem weird picture msnbc and oreilly aliek have of libertarians.

Where does this picture come from?

read capitalism.org or lp.org

basically reduce lots of governmetn and people can see the vision that its not needed at all and thsi huge voergrown weed patch can be trimmed bigtime and everyone and everything will operate way way wya better

Ok, fair enough, almost all of what you listed is right on, but there are a few things that are border line nutty, things that the Wall Street Journal, Investors Business Daily, and almost all Conservative Radio hosts would reject.

[avxo]

Research for military purposes is one thing. However, the government is funding too much research which is completely outside the scope of government. Scientific research should be focused where there is the highest demand for it - in other words, scientific research should be done by the private, for-profit sector. Profits direct resources far better than a monolithic government.

We agree that funding for military related research is fine. Funding for space research is another area where Government funding is usually (but not always) appropriate. The bottom line is that there are legitimate Government interests that can be furthered by research; sometimes those interests coincide with corporate interests and others times they don't. In either case, Government research grants are appropriate.

Nothing I've said implies I think it's appropriate for the Government to have a blank check to fund research on any and all topics. But, like any other entity with interests in particular fields, I have no problem with it being able to fund research on those topics of legitimate interest to it.

Removing a special privilege the industry you work for enjoys is not the same as telling you how it should be run.

I'm sorry, you really believe that copyright on software is a special privilege that applies only in the software industry? REALLY? A novel is copyrighted automatically the moment it's written.  How is the source code to program different from a novel for copyright purposes?

If you have a problem with copyrights, end copyrights across the board not just for one particular industry.

And yes, people are trying to dictate how the software industry should operate. Often times they are people who have no idea about the realities of the software industry but have no problem "expounding" (and I use the term loosely) on what the industry needs and dictating what software engineers should and should not be allowed to do with the fruits of their labor.

[howardroark]

Ok, fair enough, almost all of what you listed is right on, but there are a few things that are border line nutty, things that the Wall Street Journal, Investors Business Daily, and almost all Conservative Radio hosts would reject.

"If Rush rejects it, then it's borderline nutty."

Sounds like a good motto to live by.

[howardroark]

We agree that funding for military related research is fine. Funding for space research is another area where Government funding is usually (but not always) appropriate. The bottom line is that there are legitimate Government interests that can be furthered by research; sometimes those interests coincide with corporate interests and others times they don't. In either case, Government research grants are appropriate.

Nothing I've said implies I think it's appropriate for the Government to have a blank check to fund research on any and all topics. But, like any other entity with interests in particular fields, I have no problem with it being able to fund research on those topics of legitimate interest to it.

I think this is something we both agree on, perhaps?

Government-funded research strictly for the legitimate functions of government (defense) = okay
Government-funded research for anything else = not okay

I'm sorry, you really believe that copyright on software is a special privilege that applies only in the software industry? REALLY?

No. Being a "special privilege" does not mean that it is granted exclusively to the software industry. Being a special privilege does mean that it is a privilege granted by government to a private industry that would not otherwise exist in a free market.

If you have a problem with copyrights, end copyrights across the board not just for one particular industry.

That is my point.

[avxo]

No. Being a "special privilege" does not mean that it is granted exclusively to the software industry. Being a special privilege does mean that it is a privilege granted by government to a private industry that would not otherwise exist in a free market.

This is entirely unrelated to the free market. Copyrights are not "privileges" they are a form of property rights - specifically intellectual property rights - that are used to protect (for a time) the ideas underlying particular physical objects. Why would you want to end them?

[howardroark]

This is entirely unrelated to the free market. Copyrights are not "privileges" they are a form of property rights - specifically intellectual property rights - that are used to protect (for a time) the ideas underlying particular physical objects. Why would you want to end them?

They absolutely are special privileges. If I copy a book or a program, then I am not depriving anyone of their property; I am simply creating more property. However, a copyright law prevents me from doing so and thus infringes upon my own property rights.

Ideas are not property.