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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2012, 10:56:30 AM »
I think it goes without saying that 333 posts a lot. I also know that you and others criticize him for it but have no problem doing the same thing when it suits you.

I dont say shit about his copy and paste... im one of the most consistant persons on this board. I dont say shit about cut and paste. Only when he tries to tout articles as an objective argument and the source is www.rightwingneocon.com or some shit like that.
Try to stay with me on this.. ill walk you through it. Ok, Obama is charges with being a SOCIALIST correct. But the AUTHORITIES in the matter.. being THE SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA, say he isnt... and heres why. I swear its extremely difficult to fuck this one up.. how much more cut and dry can you be.

Its like me playing Polka music and people calling me a Salsa musician. And then Tito Puente or Willie Colon or the National Associan of Salsa musicians coming out and saying "malcolm isnt a salsa musician because we as salsa musicians dont use Accordions and he uses one in all of his music. It goes against the principals of salsa music"

Please tell me youre getting this

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2012, 11:01:12 AM »
I dont say shit about his copy and paste... im one of the most consistant persons on this board. I dont say shit about cut and paste. Only when he tries to tout articles as an objective argument and the source is www.rightwingneocon.com or some shit like that.
Try to stay with me on this.. ill walk you through it. Ok, Obama is charges with being a SOCIALIST correct. But the AUTHORITIES in the matter.. being THE SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA, say he isnt... and heres why. I swear its extremely difficult to fuck this one up.. how much more cut and dry can you be.

Its like me playing Polka music and people calling me a Salsa musician. And then Tito Puente or Willie Colon or the National Associan of Salsa musicians coming out and saying "malcolm isnt a salsa musician because we as salsa musicians dont use Accordions and he uses one in all of his music. It goes against the principals of salsa music"

Please tell me youre getting this

They would most likely also argue that a lot of the European countries that have varying degrees of socialist economies aren't technically "socialist". Thus your argument, as Emmortal has pointed out, is kind of pointless.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2012, 11:02:18 AM »
No one is accusing him of being a hard core socialist idealogue, just that many of his beliefs are socialist in nature. (Not the pure definition of socialism, the one that corrupt governments use to run their economies).

His redistribution of wealth is the biggest one, and his war on individual success is the other. Does this make him a pure socialist? No, because the actual definition of socialism is quite different. But thats not the definition that governments put into action.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
They would most likely also argue that a lot of the European countries that have varying degrees of socialist economies aren't technically "socialist". Thus your argument, as Emmortal has pointed out, is kind of pointless.

But if the source if the "socialist" label doesnt come from socialist... but in fact comes from his political opposition, doesnt it make the label extremely flawed to begin with. Based (1) on the source it comes from and (2) the source it is rebuked.
Tell me if im being Illogical

If you dont like me... and you call me a Schizo for whatever reason, but the National Association of Schizo experts say "wait, to call him a Schizo is inaccurate because of this this and that" ... Which source and argument rings as valid

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2012, 11:13:24 AM »
But if the source if the "socialist" label doesnt come from socialist... but in fact comes from his political opposition, doesnt it make the label extremely flawed to begin with. Based (1) on the source it comes from and (2) the source it is rebuked.
Tell me if im being Illogical

If you dont like me... and you call me a Schizo for whatever reason, but the National Association of Schizo experts say "wait, to call him a Schizo is inaccurate because of this this and that" ... Which source and argument rings as valid
Wrong. It comes from him taking PARTS of the socialist playbook and twisting them for use by the government, rather than the people. The idea's came from Socialism. Thats where the label came from. Theyre saying he's not a socialist because he ISNT a pure socialist. He took the theory of ownership and moved it to the governmental level. The idea's are still socialist theyre just not on the individual level.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2012, 11:18:18 AM »
Those are arguments from Socialists and the National Socialist party highlighting the fact that In their eyes Obama isnt a socialist. So either the socialist party doesnt know what a socialist is, or Obama isnt a socialist. By the law of logic those are the only 2 logical explainations to this. Thats pretty cut and dry there bro.

Take a moment and think of why these people would be saying such.  Ask yourself, why would the New Marxist Party try and cover up the fact that Obama was a member?  It's fairly obvious when you look at the the negative connotations floating around both of these systems.  Socialism for a lot of people in this country isn't something they want more of, even though as pointed out we have socialist mechanisms already in play, so of course the main proponents of that system are going to attempt to subvert the facts surrounding this issue.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2012, 12:04:50 PM »
Take a moment and think of why these people would be saying such.  Ask yourself, why would the New Marxist Party try and cover up the fact that Obama was a member?  It's fairly obvious when you look at the the negative connotations floating around both of these systems.  Socialism for a lot of people in this country isn't something they want more of, even though as pointed out we have socialist mechanisms already in play, so of course the main proponents of that system are going to attempt to subvert the facts surrounding this issue.

Im not going to lie.. This went over my head i think. Not absolutley sure what youre saying here

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2012, 12:16:15 PM »
Im not going to lie.. This went over my head i think. Not absolutley sure what youre saying here

My grammar sucks, sorry, running out the door but that was a run on sentence.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2012, 12:22:52 PM »
My grammar sucks, sorry, running out the door but that was a run on sentence.

no prob... when you get time..

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2012, 12:31:17 PM »
no prob... when you get time..

Do you think Obama is going to admit he is a socialist?  Fuck - even Bernie Sanders does not openly admit that. 

Obama is a socialist/marxist by his statements, speeches, actions, associations, history, intentions, etc.   

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2012, 12:53:39 PM »
Do you think Obama is going to admit he is a socialist?  Fuck - even Bernie Sanders does not openly admit that. 

Obama is a socialist/marxist by his statements, speeches, actions, associations, history, intentions, etc.   


Shut up..

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2012, 01:01:57 PM »

Shut up..


LOL - the truth is far too much for you clowns who voted for this, I get it. 

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2012, 02:18:03 PM »
LOL - the truth is far too much for you clowns who voted for this, I get it. 

no... i have grown up discussions with others on this board who have differing opinions.. you on the other hand are a waste of time.. as you are a complete and utter moron.

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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2012, 02:23:44 PM »
no... i have grown up discussions with others on this board who have differing opinions.. you on the other hand are a waste of time.. as you are a complete and utter moron.


LOL.  This is not a matter of opinion - obama's actions, statements, associations, belief systems are FACT. 

Whether you choose to believe the reality of the situation is a whole other matter. 

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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 03:07:55 AM »
Obama's particular political positions notwithstanding - and I don't care much for or support the ones I've heard about so far - you will excuse me if I don't give much weight to the musings of Robyn Leach. His credentials are, what exactly? He's like Snooki, except he has bigger tits and a smaller gut.

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Re: Robin Leach: Obama is a socialist and is fomenting a race war.
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2012, 08:29:56 AM »

LOL.  This is not a matter of opinion - obama's actions, statements, associations, belief systems are FACT. 

Whether you choose to believe the reality of the situation is a whole other matter. 
So you still don’t read and understand logic.
1. Enemies call him a Socialist. They have an agenda... people such as yourself. They have a motive to attribute negative political policies as a way to discredit him. This isn’t anything new.

2. Now on the other hand, a group of experts.... on the subject...who has no agenda, denounces him as a person who doesn’t display the characteristics consistent with their political standing.

I swear this isn’t rocket science


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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2012, 08:38:51 AM »
So you still don’t read and understand logic.
1. Enemies call him a Socialist. They have an agenda... people such as yourself. They have a motive to attribute negative political policies as a way to discredit him. This isn’t anything new.

2. Now on the other hand, a group of experts.... on the subject...who has no agenda, denounces him as a person who doesn’t display the characteristics consistent with their political standing.

I swear this isn’t rocket science




LOL!   I have an agenda? 


The results of obamas policies are a fucking catasrophe and you idiots and lemmings who voted for him still cant bring yourselves to admit how horribly you were conned.   

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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2012, 08:40:19 AM »

LOL!   I have an agenda? 


The results of obamas policies are a fucking catasrophe and you idiots and lemmings who voted for him still cant bring yourselves to admit how horribly you were conned.   
Are you going to vote for Obama come November or not?

We just want to know where you stand.

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« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2012, 08:52:23 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2012, 09:24:56 AM »

LOL!   I have an agenda? 


The results of obamas policies are a fucking catasrophe and you idiots and lemmings who voted for him still cant bring yourselves to admit how horribly you were conned.   

um ...ok....but stay on subject.
People with an Anti obama say he is a Socialist.
the people who are experts on the subject say he isnt.
Cut and dry

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« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2012, 09:43:49 AM »
um ...ok....but stay on subject.
People with an Anti obama say he is a Socialist.
the people who are experts on the subject say he isnt.
Cut and dry


 ::)  ::)  Yeah - and obama was supposed to be a "expert" and legal scholar on con law and seemingly missed the most important classes and is a blithering idiot on the subject.

The so called "experts" you cling to want nothing to do with obama since obama is a failure of biblical measure and no one would EVER want to associate themselves w such disgrace.     


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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2012, 11:15:03 AM »

 ::)  ::)  Yeah - and obama was supposed to be a "expert" and legal scholar on con law and seemingly missed the most important classes and is a blithering idiot on the subject.

The so called "experts" you cling to want nothing to do with obama since obama is a failure of biblical measure and no one would EVER want to associate themselves w such disgrace.     


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Shittin me right... dude.. they are the SOCIALIST PARTY OF AMERICA... im sure they know what it is to be an expert.. like seriously.. what tha fuck are we talking about here..youre trying to muddy up the discussion again... "what nothing to do with obama because of his failure"....that fuck are you talking about ova here.. he was called a socialist by people who dont like him,  and the authorities on the subject of that it takes to be a socialist... being the SOCIALIST PARTY OF AMERICA say he isnt a God damn Socialist. and then list why.... tha fuck is there to talk about.. jesus its like talking to a kid with the ADHD or some shit.. what dont you grasp about this.

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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2012, 11:18:55 AM »
"so Called"

Shittin me right... dude.. they are the SOCIALIST PARTY OF AMERICA... im sure they know what it is to be an expert.. like seriously.. what tha fuck are we talking about here..youre trying to muddy up the discussion again... "what nothing to do with obama because of his failure"....that fuck are you talking about ova here.. he was called a socialist by people who dont like him,  and the authorities on the subject of that it takes to be a socialist... being the SOCIALIST PARTY OF AMERICA say he isnt a God damn Socialist. and then list why.... tha fuck is there to talk about.. jesus its like talking to a kid with the ADHD or some shit.. what dont you grasp about this.

LOL  - i dont care what they say.   Obama's beliefs, associations, actions, voting record, etc show he is a marxist.  Do you want more videos of him in his own words? 

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« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2012, 11:28:43 AM »
LOL  - i dont care what they say. 

amazing... that youre an esq... this is simply amazing.. thats like saying an Expert witness means nothing.. you dont care what they say

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« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2012, 11:30:23 AM »
amazing... that youre an esq... this is simply amazing.. thats like saying an Expert witness means nothing.. you dont care what they say

Even Kenya is no longer saying Obama was born there.   Guess why?  No one wants to be associated with obama as he is a failure of historical measure.