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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2012, 10:17:40 AM »
Like bankrupt America has any money! 

So where are you 3rd world bitches at if the U.S. cuts off all foreign aid? That's right, your piss pot countries would look like Romania.

America controls the world economy.
America controls world politics.
Americans (even under a complete fool like Obama) enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.
Americans are just superior - get over it.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2012, 10:21:23 AM »
Without Nagasaki and Hiroshima you Brit/French guys would be speaking German right now.


Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!


HAha  ;D ;D

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2012, 10:23:29 AM »
America = over patriotic morons. You have no awareness how you look to the rest of the world pledging allegance to a flag like zombies whilst celebrating the genocide of the ACTUAL (native) Americans.

Hiroshima + Nagasaki = two worst terrorist bombings of all time.

No awareness full stop (period).

  1 st off most Americans don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks. We have spilled enough blood for ungrateful folk the world over. Sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly. Take away our economy and aid and the rest of the world is fucked. Shit countries in the EU are screwing themselves all by themselves

 This "genocide" you speak of began with other countries and peoples  centuries before "America" ever existed. It is not a new phenomena invented by Americans. Shit the various native tribes of N America did the same thing to each other before europeans arrived. It was called expansionism, colonization etc. The Mongols, Spanish, French, Japanese, English, African tribes and a host of others did the same damn thing 1st.  So brush up on your history scooter before you point fingers. Read up on Genghis Khan, The "colonization" of Australia. S. Africa, India, just to name a very very few.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2012, 10:25:59 AM »

Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!


HAha  ;D ;D

Is it true that really dumb people like you have more patience to perform menial tasks?

Or is that a family trait of yours?

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2012, 10:28:40 AM »
Ah yes the egalitarian dream. Europeans can just sit with superior intellect and culture and laugh.

Killing 130,000 unarmed civilians probably felt awesome for the US. Congratulations on reaping the economic rewards though.


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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2012, 10:29:07 AM »
Is it true that really dumb people like you have more patience to perform menial tasks?

Or is that a family trait of yours?

 ??? ???

Of course I'm not on your level but wouldn't consider myself dump either.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2012, 10:31:14 AM »
 1 st off most Americans don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks. We have spilled enough blood for ungrateful folk the world over. Sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly. Take away our economy and aid and the rest of the world is fucked. Shit countries in the EU are screwing themselves all by themselves

 This "genocide" you speak of began with other countries and peoples  centuries before "America" ever existed. It is not a new phenomena invented by Americans. Shit the various native tribes of N America did the same thing to each other before europeans arrived. It was called expansionism, colonization etc. The Mongols, Spanish, French, Japanese, English, African tribes and a host of others did the same damn thing 1st.  So brush up on your history scooter before you point fingers. Read up on Genghis Khan, The "colonization" of Australia. S. Africa, India, just to name a very very few.

Ah okay so comparing yourselves to the Mongols makes you feel better, that's hilarious.




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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #82 on: July 08, 2012, 10:31:59 AM »

Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!


HAha  ;D ;D

Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2012, 10:34:05 AM »
So where are you 3rd world bitches at if the U.S. cuts off all foreign aid? That's right, your piss pot countries would look like Romania.

America controls the world economy.
America controls world politics.
Americans (even under a complete fool like Obama) enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.
Americans are just superior - get over it.
HA HA Highest standard of living, my arse, the country I live in Ranks higher than America, So does the Netherlands and Norway! One must also take into account that America is only a couple of decades away from collapse!  The invasion of Iraq in part was to prevent Iraq from selling there oil in Euros and further weakening the American dollar.  America is just delaying the inevitable through war, there is now nothing the USA can do to prevent the collapse of its currency, and its economy. It has no reserves to support its value, and has the most indebted country in the world, is dependant of the credit from America's former enemies. Over the last couple of years, both Russia and China have said they will be switching their considerable dollar reserves into Euro. This will only hasten the lack of confidence in the dollar, creating a global lack of confidence in the currency, and setting into free-fall. It will soon bring about the total collapse of the dollar, and the American economy.  I wont remain smug though, as due to Americas collapse, they will also destroy many other nations economies with it!  This is why the world hates America, they completely FUCKED what could have been a good thing!

Americans do not appear to comprehend the bitterness that has grown around the world as a result of their illegal invasion of Iraq. While once Europeans looked up to, and admired America; today it is held in utter contempt for its arrogance and warmongering. Anti-European comments in the American media have only added to this hostility towards the US. America's attempt to impose its version of government on the world, its hypocrisy in claiming to be the moral leader of the world, while flooding the media with degenerate filth and garbage, has bought upon it disgust and contempt that few Americans can comprehend.
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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2012, 10:36:01 AM »
Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.

Yes, both acts of terror by definition.

We should send ourselves to Guantanamo without trial, then bomb whatever country we're from for an extended period of time.

500,000 Afghan/Iragi civilians dead since 9/11, you should be ashamed.

How many died in 9/11? You do the math & work out who the bad guys are.


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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2012, 10:40:28 AM »
Yes, both acts of terror by definition.

We should send ourselves to Guantanamo without trial, then bomb whatever country we're from for an extended period of time.

500,000 Afghan/Iragi civilians dead since 9/11, you should be ashamed.

How many died in 9/11? You do the math & work out who the bad guys are.



I'm not saying it isn't sad, I'm just saying until we either stay out of each others affairs, or join hands and sing kumaya, this shit will continue.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2012, 10:42:33 AM »
Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.

Germany was already defeated at the time of dropping those nukes in Hiroshima and  Nagasaki.

USSR took control in Berlin at 2nd of May whereas USA dropped nuke in Hiroshima at 6th of August.
So those bombs had nothing to do with preventing UK and France becoming German-speaking countries, which was the initial claim of "bike nut".


That's what I was after here.
we have discussed the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki before and I'm not blindly condemning them at all.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2012, 10:43:53 AM »
??? ???

Of course I'm not on your level but wouldn't consider myself dump either.

I never called you "dump", you called yourself "dump", I'm not really sure what being "dump" even means?

I said you are dumb.....I rest my case.   ;D

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2012, 10:52:51 AM »
Ah okay so comparing yourselves to the Mongols makes you feel better, that's hilarious.

History classes , were you asleep?

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2012, 10:59:27 AM »
HA HA Highest standard of living, my arse, the country I live in Ranks higher than America, So does the Netherlands and Norway! One must also take into account that America is only a couple of decades away from collapse!  The invasion of Iraq in part was to prevent Iraq from selling there oil in Euros and further weakening the American dollar.  America is just delaying the inevitable through war, there is now nothing the USA can do to prevent the collapse of its currency, and its economy. It has no reserves to support its value, and has the most indebted country in the world, is dependant of the credit from America's former enemies. Over the last couple of years, both Russia and China have said they will be switching their considerable dollar reserves into Euro. This will only hasten the lack of confidence in the dollar, creating a global lack of confidence in the currency, and setting into free-fall. It will soon bring about the total collapse of the dollar, and the American economy.  I wont remain smug though, as due to Americas collapse, they will also destroy many other nations economies with it!  This is why the world hates America, they completely FUCKED what could have been a good thing!

Americans do not appear to comprehend the bitterness that has grown around the world as a result of their illegal invasion of Iraq. While once Europeans looked up to, and admired America; today it is held in utter contempt for its arrogance and warmongering. Anti-European comments in the American media have only added to this hostility towards the US. America's attempt to impose its version of government on the world, its hypocrisy in claiming to be the moral leader of the world, while flooding the media with degenerate filth and garbage, has bought upon it disgust and contempt that few Americans can comprehend.

The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.

And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2012, 11:06:21 AM »
The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.

And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.

And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.

 

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2012, 11:17:05 AM »
And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.

 

I like this guy!

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2012, 11:21:01 AM »
The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.

And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.
Whatever currency fails, result will be the same, devastating consequences to the American way of life!
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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2012, 11:47:59 AM »
And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.

 
Lol, how the fuck do we (U.S.) loan anyone money?  We are trillions in debt. 

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2012, 03:43:26 PM »
The U.S. can't say shit about education.  Most civilized countries are smarter.

The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country.  How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year?  None that even come close to the US.

Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology.  NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country.  Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.

So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education.  We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.

Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2012, 03:51:23 PM »
The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country.  How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year?  None that even come close to the US.

Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology.  NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country.  Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.

So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education.  We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.

Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.
I live in the U.S. asswipe.  I'm talking about education through the highschool level.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2012, 07:46:37 PM »
I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here.  Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.

First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media.  Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all.  I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often.  You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy.  What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened.  They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in.  But that's another debate.

The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists.  You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc.  And this is what pisses me off.

To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing.  Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did.  The standard of living was higher, wages were better.  We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire.  Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole.  As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in.  So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.

Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad.  The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really.  So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).

Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing.  The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them.  There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated).  The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.

The biggest problem in the UK is twofold.  Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene.  If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out.  It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.

Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space.  They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing.  A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off.  These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else.  They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.

So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.  

As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid £10k's to do absolutely nothing for it.  But then, who's the sucker in that statement?

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2012, 08:58:27 PM »
I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here.  Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.

First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media.  Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all.  I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often.  You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy.  What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened.  They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in.  But that's another debate.

The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists.  You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc.  And this is what pisses me off.

To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing.  Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did.  The standard of living was higher, wages were better.  We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire.  Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole.  As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in.  So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.

Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad.  The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really.  So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).

Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing.  The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them.  There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated).  The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.

The biggest problem in the UK is twofold.  Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene.  If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out.  It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.

Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space.  They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing.  A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off.  These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else.  They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.

So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.  

As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid £10k's to do absolutely nothing for it.  But then, who's the sucker in that statement?

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Damn bro, Solid post. I often wonder how Britain would be today if those 2 costly World Wars never took place.

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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2012, 09:56:20 PM »
The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country.  How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year?  None that even come close to the US.

Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology.  NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country.  Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.

So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education.  We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.

Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.

HA HA - America Imports it's Academic Genuis!  Your brainpower isn't American!
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Re: What the fuck is wrong with the UK?
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2012, 10:03:09 PM »
HA HA - America Imports it's Academic Genuis!  Your brainpower isn't American!

The VAST MAJORITY of students at these prestigious US Universities are Americans.