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July 16, 2012
 

The Capitalism Debate
 
By DAVID BROOKS
 


Let’s say you are president in a time of a sustained economic slowdown. You initiated a series of big policies that you thought were going to turn the economy around, but they didn’t work — either because they were insufficient or ineffective. How do you run for re-election under these circumstances?

Do you spend the entire campaign saying that things would have been even worse if you hadn’t acted the way you did? No. That would be pathetic. You go on the attack. Instead of defending your economic policies, you attack modern capitalism as it now exists. You blame the system for the economy. You do this with double ferocity if your opponent happens to be the embodiment of that system.

This is what the Obama campaign appears to have done in recent months. Instead of defending the policies of the last four years, the campaign has begun a series of attacks on the things people don’t like about modern capitalism.

They don’t like the way unsuccessful firms go bust. Obama hit that with ads about a steel plant closure a few months ago. They don’t like C.E.O. salaries. President Obama hits that regularly. They don’t like financial shenanigans. Obama hits that. They don’t like outsourcing and offshoring. This week, Obama has been hitting that.

The president is now running an ad showing Mitt Romney tunelessly singing “America the Beautiful,” while the text on screen blasts him for shipping jobs to China, India and Mexico.

The accuracy of the ad has been questioned by the various fact-checking outfits. That need not detain us. It’s safest to assume that all the ads you see this year will be at least somewhat inaccurate because the ad-makers now take dishonesty as a mark of their professional toughness.

What matters is the ideology behind the ad: the assumption that Bain Capital, the private-equity firm founded by Romney, should not have invested in companies that hired workers abroad; the assumption that hiring Mexican or Indian workers is unpatriotic; the assumption that no worthy person would do what most global business leaders have been doing for the past half-century.

This ad — and the rhetoric the campaign is using around it — challenges the entire logic of capitalism as it has existed over several decades. It’s part of a comprehensive attack on the economic system Romney personifies.

This shift of focus has been audacious. Over the years of his presidency, Obama has not been a critic of globalization. There’s no real evidence that, when he’s off the campaign trail, he has any problem with outsourcing and offshoring. He has lavishly praised people like Steve Jobs who were prominent practitioners. He has hired people like Jeffrey Immelt, the chief executive of General Electric, whose company embodies the upsides of globalization. His economic advisers have generally touted the benefits of globalization even as they worked to help those who are hurt by its downsides.

But, politically, this aggressive tactic has worked. It has shifted the focus of the race from being about big government, which Obama represents, to being about capitalism, which Romney represents.

Just as Republicans spent years promising voters that they could have tax cuts forever, now the Democrats are promising voters that they can have all the benefits of capitalism without the downsides, like plant closures, rich C.E.O.’s and outsourcing. Just as Republicans used to force Democrats into the eat-your-spinach posture (you need to have high taxes if you want your programs), now Democrats are casting Republicans into the eat-your-spinach posture (you need to accept outsourcing and the pains of creative destruction if you want your prosperity).

The Romney campaign doesn’t seem to know how to respond. For centuries, business leaders have been inept when writers, intellectuals and politicians attacked capitalism, and, so far, the Romney campaign is continuing that streak.

One thing is for sure. As Arthur Brooks of the American Enterprise Institute has said again and again, it’s not enough to say that capitalism will make you money. You can’t fight what is essentially a moral critique with economics.

Romney is going to have to define a vision of modern capitalism. He’s going to have to separate his vision from the scandals and excesses we’ve seen over the last few years. He needs to define the kind of capitalist he is and why the country needs his virtues.

Let’s face it, he’s not a heroic entrepreneur. He’s an efficiency expert. It has been the business of his life to take companies that were mediocre and sclerotic and try to make them efficient and dynamic. It has been his job to be the corporate version of a personal trainer: take people who are puffy and self-indulgent and whip them into shape.

That’s his selling point: rigor and productivity. If he can build a capitalist vision around that, he’ll thrive. If not, he’s a punching bag.



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He is dead wrong since the Government has no assets or money that it did not steal, tax, or borrow from the productivity and income of people first.  

The government did not build a road and then Ford invented a car.   It works the other way around.  The work of industrious people created a demand for cars and roads.  But guess who paid for the roads?   The taxpayers!  

And whats funny too is that this ghetto communist street poverty merchant says there were "teachers" along the way?   Really?  

Many hardened criminals had the very same teachers!  Does obama blame those teachers for that?  

And another thing - this communist wretch wants to lay the success of people at the feet of the govt, fine, but what about the failures?  

Oh no!   Can't do that in the mind of a communist.  

 

what's with the bogus quote in those two pictures?

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what's with the bogus quote in those two pictures?

Those were Obama's own words from his Leninist rant in front of the gullible morons.

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Those were Obama's own words from his Leninist rant in front of the gullible morons.


no they weren't

post the full quote and you'll see what he's talking about (well ok -you still won't see it but eveyrone else will)

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Posted on July 15, 2012


Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own"





PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
 
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
 
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.



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This is really one of the dumbest things i have ever heard him say.   

Insane beyond words. 



Straw - his quote is right there. 


He is a hardcore communist.   

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The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

just more pick and choose bullshit

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Straw - his quote is right there. 


He is a hardcore communist.   

and you are a certified idiot

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If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

you know full well he's talking about the infrastruture that allows your business to exist.

Same type of commnets Elizabeth Warren was making but not are well delivered

Anyway, please continue to believe Obama is a communist since that's what you've always believed and I hope you're prepared for the collapse of the  nation and full blown communism when Obama is re-elected

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If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen

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If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen


i'm feeling sorrry for you, i think you might be slightly retarded                                  not  ;D

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Even if he was referring to infrastructure he is full of shit too. 

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Even if he was referring to infrastructure he is full of shit too. 

we all know that business built  the roads, bridges and highways that they use to transport their goods and of course all business have armed security to make sure their goods have safe passage across the country and of course they taught their drivers to read and write.  Same goes for the internet. We all know the little online jewelrey store first had to invest billiions to create the internet before they could start their busines


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we all know that business built  the roads, bridges and highways that they use to transport their goods and of course all business have armed security to make sure their goods have safe passage across the country and of course they taught their drivers to read and write.  Same goes for the internet. We all know the little online jewelrey store first had to invest billiions to create the internet before they could start their busines




Where does the govt get the money to "invest" in anything? 

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Private success is the reason for the gov't.

It is because of private success that we have roads , courts, aircraft carriers etc. Private success is the reason we have the system of gov't that we have and the economy that we have. It is not the other way around--that would be the soviet union.





How is it you hate so many people yet love privat companies? Arent they driven by people?

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Where does the govt get the money to "invest" in anything? 

Taxes and they should therefore be minimum.

But roads, health and education are vital to get productive people who can work in the private sector.

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Taxes and they should therefore be minimum.

But roads, health and education are vital to get productive people who can work in the private sector.

Where do they generate tax money from to do that? 

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Where do they generate tax money from to do that? 

Taxes and they should therefore be minimum.


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Taxes and they should therefore be minimum.



Taxes from what? 

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Taxes from what? 

Money earnt salaries etc...

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http://www.c-span.org/Events/Mitt-Romney-Rallies-in-Wisconsin-with-Gov-Walker-Rep-Ryan/10737431672
Contrast this with that lying thug communist Obama 

LOL @ thug

man, you must be scared to leave you house

you see thugs everywhere

hey will you be posting on GB while you're sitting on that panel?

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LOL @ thug

man, you must be scared to leave you house

you see thugs everywhere

hey will you be posting on GB while you're sitting on that panel?


I live in the bronx - there are thugs everywhere, 

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I live in the bronx - there are thugs everywhere, 

you forgot to mention the savages and beasts

must suck to live in such fear all the time

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Posted on July 15, 2012


Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own"





PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
 
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
 
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.



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This is really one of the dumbest things i have ever heard him say.   

Insane beyond words. 




It is insane....that is unless you actually read what he said.... ::)



If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."




Once again, another example of words taken completely out of context
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