Author Topic: Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own" - lmfao!!  (Read 44797 times)

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BTW - who is Obama referring to in this little screed of his?

LOL, read the title of the thread you created, it will answer your question.  You are lawyer, come on now 3333.

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To get that full of shit do u need someones help, slyy? If so who uses dominos and who uses chipotle?

It seems that someones dipping the dominos and chipotle in expired ranch.

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 I dont think so shitwhistler.  

Start a thread about it.

See?  I can put one sentence you said during our discussion and one sentence I said during our discussion, and place them on top of one another.  No context whatsoever.  Just two statements we made talking about the same thing.  Do I need to further explain or did it click?

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Prove me wrong

I will let the quotes speak for themselves.  Their speeches are mirror images of each other.  They used a few different words to conclude the same thing.  Hopefully this will help you understand and comprehend.  

Obama's Speech:
Posted on July 15, 2012


Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own"





PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
 
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Governmentresearch created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
 
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
  
 

Obama said:
"teacher"
"somebody" (can mean anyone in your life, INCLUDING, parents)
"roads and bridges"
"government"
"fire service"


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Romney's speech:
"I know that you recognize a lot of people helped you in that business. Perhaps the banks. Investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teacher, the people who provide roads, the fire and police."  

Romney said, these "people helped you in that business":
"banks,"
"investors,"
"your mom and dad,"
"your school teacher,"
"the people who provide roads", and
"the fire and police."
 

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To Conclude:

Romney said:                               Obama said:
"your mom and dad,"                        "somebody" (i.e. anyone in your life, INCLUDING, "your mom and dad")
"your school teacher,"                      "teacher"
"the people who provide roads"          "somebody invested in roads and bridges"
"the fire and police."                         "fire service"
"investors," and                               "government" (which is 50% of Mitt's list)
"banks,"








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They dont mean the same thing at all.  And you are the typical obama socialist kneepadder.  You are utterly convinced that you are right.  But you are so fucking wrong it isnt even worth tolerating you.  You havent proved anything.  You havent shown where romney said you didnt build that.  Does romney say these people helped you or that they made your business happen.  Because b arry says they made my business happen.  Romney might think people helped me but where does he say that i wouldnt be here if not for them.  He says they helped me.  But he doesnt say they made my business happen.   Barrack lowbama says somebody else made my business happen.  You havent shown anywhere that romney say that.  You just keep posting the same speech and taking this leap of logic.  You havent proved anything and you seem like a retarded retard

I've copied and pasted the speeches for you to read.  You didn't understand them.  

(*You are still confused and think Obama meant/said that businessmen built the roads, bridges, and infrastructure.)  
If he didnt mean that business men didnt build the roads and bridges and infastructure yatta yatta then what is obama saying that somebody else built?  


I wrote what each speech meant, in an attempt for you to understand.  You got more confused.

I went back to merely quoting speeches.  You have actually become more mentally incompetent.



Both speeches were made in an attempt to tell the Americans that successful people had help along the way.  That was the purpose of both speeches.  I know you don't get it.  We all know you don't get it.  I would recommend wearing a helmet all the time.

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They dont mean the same thing at all.  And you are the typical obama socialist kneepadder.  You are utterly convinced that you are right.  But you are so fucking wrong it isnt even worth tolerating you.  You havent proved anything.  You havent shown where romney said you didnt build that.  Does romney say these people helped you or that they made your business happen.  Because b arry says they made my business happen.  Romney might think people helped me but where does he say that i wouldnt be here if not for them.  He says they helped me.  But he doesnt say they made my business happen.   Barrack lowbama says somebody else made my business happen.  You havent shown anywhere that romney say that.  You just keep posting the same speech and taking this leap of logic.  You havent proved anything and you seem like a retarded retard

U idiot. Do u know what the word "help" means?

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Could you have acheived it without that help.  

According to Romney and Obama, no.

Would you have gotten what you needed else where if this help wasnt available.  

Yes, you would have gotten help ELSEWHERE (as you said, very good D-Ware).

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 He acknowleged teachers and roads and infastructure so as not to be seen as diminishing these things.  


Wrong again.  You were getting better too, D-Ware.  

Romney said:

"I know that you recognize a lot of people helped you in that business. Perhaps the banks. Investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teacher, the people who provide roads, the fire and police."  

Much more than an acknowledgement "so as not to be seen as diminishing these things."  


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You sound like a real losing ass loser.  Fucking retarder

I can see from your masterful use of the language that you must have been a fantastic debater in high school

It also looks like you got over your aversion to using that word

either that or you never had a problem with it and are just a liar

Im not offended. I support your right to say anything you want.  It is progressives like you that want to limit free speech.  And attack people for being biggots.  Some people indeed find that insulting, i am not one of them.  It just expose you as someone who uses retard a a negative slur.  Tell me more about limiting free speech. 

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The only thing that is getting better is that you are exposed as a partisan lying idealogue obama apologist kneepadder propoganist.


Loser

That is the response I expected.  When unable to respond, you insult...much like a child.

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D-Ware, put your helmet on before you read this:


The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romney-okay-businesses-do-need-government-after-all/2012/07/18/gJQAezDHuW_blog.html

Posted at 05:03 PM ET, 07/18/2012

Mitt Romney: Okay, businesses do need government, after all


By Greg Sargent

Great catch by Jed Lewison here. Look at what Mitt Romney said on the campaign trail today:

    “There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”

Do tell! And he also said this, in the course of repeating the bogus claim that Obama dissed business builders:

    “Speaking about small businesses, and businesses of all kinds, he said this: `If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.’...

    “I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the bank, the investors. There is no question your mom and dad, your school teachers. The people who provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help. But let me ask you this. Did you build your business? If you did, raise your hand. Take that, Mr. President! This is what’s happening in this country.”

This is hard to distinguish from what Obama himself said in his “controversial” remarks: individual success doesn’t happen in a vacuum; it is also enabled by a smoothly functioning society that is kept running by government. What this confirms is that the radicalism discerned in Obama’s speech by Republicans is a pure invention. Remember, in attacking Obama’s remarks yesterday, Romney went so far as to say that Obama had insulted all Americans everywhere who have ever worked hard to better themselves in life. Romney cast Obama’s remarks as an attack on individual initiative itself. Yet today, Romney only underscored how non-controversial Obama’s remarks really were.

Sure, Romney kept his attack up on the “didn’t build that” comment. But as you can see, he needed to dishonestly cite the one Obama line out of context in order to do it. That's because this is the only way Romney can paint Obama’s point as controversial — or, indeed, as being significantly different from his own admission that businesses do rely to some degree on government.

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You sound like a real losing ass loser.  Fucking retarder

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What does your quote prove?  Straw homo?

that you're not very bright but that's already obvious to everyone

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You keep saying the same shit and it isnt correct. Go put a helmet on my cock assface.  Repeating your same stid shit is brilliant.  Reterded fag

It is a new quote that I did not use before.  I will share Romney's quote again for you:

   “There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”

As to YOUR previous statement:

Romney might think people helped me but where does he say that i wouldnt be here if not for them.  You havent proved anything and you seem like a retarded retard

Your question is, "where does he say that i wouldnt be here if not for them".

I will re-share Romney's quote again for the answer:

 
   “There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”

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I dont have an aversion to using retard and never did.  I pointed out that you claim o be liberal and proggresive and yet you use retard as a slur which is something that some people find very offensive and so it isnt very liberal of you.  And if you want to judge intelligence by the collective opinion of message board anonymous handles than you are even more of a loser than i thought.  No go back in your hole and let your big brother slyy do all the talking for you.  You bottom twink piece of shit

your delusions about what and what is not liberal is not my problem

given your penchant for using gay slurs it's obvious you're a closet case

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Romney states the government creates the playing field that we enjoy playing ball on.  

Stop telling me what you think he said.  

Romney clearly stated that "There are a lot of people in government who help us...to start businesses" and that "we all recognize that."

Stop interpreting, Romney said it plain as day.

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No he didnt you are the one interpreting and your interpretations smell worse then the bakala coming out your ass, tuna boat

I used his quote exactly.  I am interpreting nothing.  Don't be sad D-Ware, it's okay...both candidates agree.

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No they dont but you are trying to make them agree.  You use romneys quote and then tell us what that means. 

For the 3rd time now, Romney stated:
  “There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”

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Romney:

   “There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”

"I know that you recognize a lot of people helped you in that business. Perhaps the banks. Investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teacher, the people who provide roads, the fire and police." 


Obama:
 
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."




Read them slowly.  See if you notice any similarities. 

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They are not the same.  You didnt build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  Hahahahahahahahahaha

I see that you did not read them.  Call your mom down to the basement, see if she can read the speeches out loud for you.

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romney cannot run on 'i'm romney'.

He has to run on "i'm not obama".

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Why you so mad?  If you dont like what im saying.   Fuck off.  You dont have to read it. Bye asswipe

why would you think I'm mad

I'm not using any caps, of profanity

I only see you doing that

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Your mother is a girl.  The apple doesnt fall far from the tree. 


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I feel sorry for you man....I think you are either a child by age, mind, or both.



(*Note how D-Ware changed the quote from "girl" to "C.U.*.T." after I insulted his comeback...Oh D-Ware, ;D)

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If you have a business you didnt build that.  Somebody esle made that happen.  Ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha