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Author Topic: Brad Pilon - Eat Stop Eat & How Much Protein  (Read 6762 times)
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« on: August 18, 2012, 09:14:22 AM »

Anyone ever read it? If not, I have attached download link below. It is quite controversial, Eat Stop Eat intails 2x 24 hour fasts a week and in How Much Protein he talks about there is not such a great need for protein and you only need 70-120g a day.
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/49890664
http://ebookbrowse.com/eat-stop-eat-by-brad-pilon-pdf-d322147020
Let me know what you think
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 09:09:57 AM »

So 72 views and no replies?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 06:08:25 PM »

It's a very interesting subject to me, but I have no clue. I've experimented with skipping meals and eating less protein and I'm not feeling very strong.  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 04:31:43 AM »

didn't read it, but the protein intake is correct

p.s. HARD TRAINING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"diet"
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 05:11:38 AM »

i've read the book, it's part of the reason that i fast intermittently (I consume all of my daily calories between 2pm & 8pm, then fast for 16 hours)...

Martin B (leangains) wrote a recent review:

http://www.leangains.com/2012/04/eat-stop-eat-expanded-5th-edition.html
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 05:59:50 AM »

i've read the book, it's part of the reason that i fast intermittently (I consume all of my daily calories between 2pm & 8pm, then fast for 16 hours)...


How long have you been doing this, and how has it worked for you?
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 06:06:35 PM »


How long have you been doing this, and how has it worked for you?

about 4 months... love it, helped continue weight loss past my original goal...

i also mix in about 1 fast day each week where i keep my calories below 600... because i'm so low carb i almost never get hungry
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 06:18:40 PM »

about 4 months... love it, helped continue weight loss past my original goal...

i also mix in about 1 fast day each week where i keep my calories below 600... because i'm so low carb i almost never get hungry


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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 06:58:52 PM »


Nice!!

yeah, as i'm thinking about where i want to be in my 40s it's really below 8% BF... permanently... no more bulking/cutting

leangains seems to work for me
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 11:13:04 PM »

Yeah, I've also done a few fast days so far and I'm a bit leaner than I was 2 weeks ago. I've just struggled to do the whole 24h fast. But I usually never fast less than 16 hours.

The books have really relaxed my way of eating and I enjoy eating lower calories more than I have before. I'm not in the mindset of dieting. I just eat my food that I calculated and I don't think about it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 11:19:30 PM »

didn't read it, but the protein intake is correct

p.s. HARD TRAINING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"diet"
True, I've dropped my protein to about 120g a day and I've noticed no difference. I've lost some strength/endurance in the gym, but that's just to the low calories, although it is picking up again slowly but surely!
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 03:44:24 AM »

unlike you I am strictly ketogenic...

makes the fasting even more effective
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 04:12:29 AM »

True, I've dropped my protein to about 120g a day and I've noticed no difference. I've lost some strength/endurance in the gym, but that's just to the low calories, although it is picking up again slowly but surely!

i'm just eating less cals now, and i don't worry about fat, carb, or pro intake, but if i'd had to make a very good and educated guess i'd say that my cal intake per day is roughly 1500-1800 and protein intake is somewhere around 70-80 grams per day, and i'm sitting @ sub-8 with visable ab lines and paper thin skin around my serratus

also, i've been training much MUCH HARDER than usual, and that's what i attribute to the case of my vastly improved looks Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 05:19:01 AM »

brad's response:

http://bradpilon.com/weight-loss/intermittent-fasting/eat-stop-eat-and-carbs/
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 06:32:22 AM »

i'm just eating less cals now, and i don't worry about fat, carb, or pro intake, but if i'd had to make a very good and educated guess i'd say that my cal intake per day is roughly 1500-1800 and protein intake is somewhere around 70-80 grams per day, and i'm sitting @ sub-8 with visable ab lines and paper thin skin around my serratus

also, i've been training much MUCH HARDER than usual, and that's what i attribute to the case of my vastly improved looks Cool Cool Cool
Yeah I'm also on between 1500-1800 cal a day. Protein about the same, maybe a bit higher. I've been on it for only 2/3 weeks now and I've lost about 4kg. So now all I have to do is patient and in 10-12 weeks time I'm gonna be ripped. Yeah buddy
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 06:35:34 AM »

yeah, as i'm thinking about where i want to be in my 40s it's really below 8% BF... permanently... no more bulking/cutting

leangains seems to work for me


Smart.
Have you noticed any atrophy or strength-loss following this protocol? How about energy levels?
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 01:55:07 PM »

Energy is good. I dropped all stimulants. No atrophy. But I have lost some strength. Of course I'm training very differently. I'm not worried about any of that. Just want to me comfortable and healthy (and I'm there).
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 07:11:09 PM »

Energy is good. I dropped all stimulants. No atrophy. But I have lost some strength. Of course I'm training very differently. I'm not worried about any of that. Just want to me comfortable and healthy (and I'm there).


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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2012, 11:32:18 PM »

Trying my first 24h fast today. Gonna try and push it
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2012, 02:14:42 AM »

Trying my first 24h fast today. Gonna try and push it

black coffee helps, and so does staying physically active
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2012, 08:10:57 AM »

black coffee helps, and so does staying physically active
Yes I loaded up on the coffee and green tea today. I had to study today so that kept my mind of the hunger as well. Just 2 more hours left then I can have me some 300g steak, 300g potato and some green beans. Excited!
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2012, 09:20:02 AM »

Yes I loaded up on the coffee and green tea today. I had to study today so that kept my mind of the hunger as well. Just 2 more hours left then I can have me some 300g steak, 300g potato and some green beans. Excited!

the key will be to keep the calories in check once you get lean enough

it's a lifelong kinda thing ma man Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2012, 09:28:18 AM »

the key will be to keep the calories in check once you get lean enough

it's a lifelong kinda thing ma man Smiley
Yeah I understand, and I want to maintain the lifestyle due to my bodytype. I think it will work great to keep calories in check and stay lean
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2012, 07:13:40 AM »

i'm just eating less cals now, and i don't worry about fat, carb, or pro intake, but if i'd had to make a very good and educated guess i'd say that my cal intake per day is roughly 1500-1800 and protein intake is somewhere around 70-80 grams per day, and i'm sitting @ sub-8 with visable ab lines and paper thin skin around my serratus

also, i've been training much MUCH HARDER than usual, and that's what i attribute to the case of my vastly improved looks Cool Cool Cool
Are you taking any fat burners? I have some clen but I forget to take it. Haha
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2012, 08:00:04 AM »

Are you taking any fat burners? I have some clen but I forget to take it. Haha

not this time around, i took eca back in the late 90s when it was still legal and i was able to hit a legit sub-6, gh15 confirmed Grin

at this moment in time i'm not sure if i want to get down to sub-6 again, but i'm pretty sure that i could do it this time around without taking eca or any fat-burners, and without doing any cardio as well

i've put a good amount of muscle on my legs recently and i still want to put a bit more on my delts and arms, my torso is my best bodypart so i'm not focused on it at all

the attached pics is how i looked back in '99 when i was sitting at a legit sub-6


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