Author Topic: Dorian Yates dominated the 90's in bodybuilding? (Read 21391 times)

Shockwave · « **Reply #75 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:04:34 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 03:44:31 PM

look at that last pic and yates fans thing je should win a sandow looking like tht thats a diss to dorian himself

Thats 97, and Im not really sure if he deserved the Sandow that year. The question is, was Nasser good enough to win with no back?

TrueGrit · « **Reply #76 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:06:23 PM »

I have no dog in this fight but you could quite feasibly argue that nobody should ever be allowed to win an Olympia with arms like this, no matter how good the rest is..

Shockwave · « **Reply #77 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:08:56 PM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on August 28, 2012, 04:06:23 PM

I have no dog in this fight but you could quite feasibly argue that nobody should ever be allowed to win an Olympia with arms like this, no matter how good the rest is..

Hmm... so it comes down to whats worse, no back, or 1/3 of the arms?

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #78 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:29:03 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 28, 2012, 04:08:56 PM

Hmm... so it comes down to whats worse, no back, or 1/3 of the arms?

nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....

Shockwave · « **Reply #79 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:32:04 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 04:29:03 PM

nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....

Wide yes, but no thickness, no conditioning, no lower back. His back seriously almost looks as deformed as Dorian's arms.
As I said, Im not convinced Dorian deserved 97, but it's not like Nasser was knocking him out, thats whats so pathetic.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #80 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:35:15 PM »

ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted

OTHstrong · « **Reply #81 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:35:19 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 04:29:03 PM

nasser has a wide back just not a good back are you seriously comparing that to torn limbs
17 inch arms on a 250 man.... cmon man....

The back is 1 fourth to 1 third the entire body and Nasser's back is worse then some NPC competitors. where as the biceps are less then 10% of the physique.

Shockwave · « **Reply #82 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:39:19 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 04:35:15 PM

ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted

This is where our thinking is fundamentally different - I look at the arms as a percentage of the body, which is greater? The back, or the arms? The back, by far. Its damn near 33% or more of the body.

If you were asking, what would I rather have running around in a T shirt, arms obviously. But these guys aren't, they're judged on how well developed their body is, not their "gym rat" muscles. And the back is a MUCH, MUCH, larger percentage of muscle than the arms. Especially prior to 97, when Dorian still had triceps on both arms.

My .02

Viking11 · « **Reply #83 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:44:32 PM »

Dorian had 1 arm in 97. He probably could have pulled out but was too much of a competitor to. It's not his fault nobody else was good enough that year to turn the judges heads. Dorian saw he was finished and retired. What more do you want?

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #84 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:47:45 PM »

so that year... who had the better physique

pure fan boyism

ronnie is my favourite bber and i will be the irst to say he didnt dominate in 02.. and 01 was close....

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Shockwave · « **Reply #85 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:49:46 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 04:47:45 PM

so that year... who had the better physique

pure fan boyism

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I think thats 95 bro, and Dorian dominated Nasser hard that year.

As far as thi -

Quote

ronnie is my favourite bber and i will be the irst to say he didnt dominate in 02.. and 01 was close....

Ive said over and over Im not sure if Dorian deserved 97, but I'm not convinced Nasser was good enough to win either.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 28, 2012, 05:08:16 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 28, 2012, 04:49:46 PM

I think thats 95 bro, and Dorian dominated Nasser hard that year.

As far as thi -Ive said over and over Im not sure if Dorian deserved 97, but I'm not convinced Nasser was good enough to win either.

from that pic dorian dominated.... seriously
$:-\$
wow hahhaha ok

Shockwave · « **Reply #87 on:** August 28, 2012, 05:21:28 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 05:08:16 PM

from that pic dorian dominated.... seriously
$:-\$
wow hahhaha ok

No, I said that pic is from 95, a contest which Dorian dominated Nasser. Never said that 1 pic is displaying domination, but I'm not a guy that judges an entire contest based on 1 picture either.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 28, 2012, 05:52:14 PM »

from that pic he lost from the front badly thats half the body so
he didnt dominate anything

Shockwave · « **Reply #89 on:** August 28, 2012, 05:53:34 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 05:52:14 PM

from that pic he lost from the front badly thats half the body so
he didnt dominate anything

Meso Im not getting drawn back into this arguement with you. You want to look at one pic and make your decision, thats fine. We all know your bias, as everyone knows mine. This is never going to end.

Same contest -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #90 on:** August 28, 2012, 05:59:35 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 28, 2012, 05:53:34 PM

Meso Im not getting drawn back into this arguement with you. You want to look at one pic and make your decision, thats fine. We all know your bias, as everyone knows mine. This is never going to end.

Same contest -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067

no bias at all.... i just dont think dorian dominated...
and all the pics i posted substantiates my belief...
if you notice the dorian fans post other pics and then say yeah yates dominated
i posted 8 pics and not one person can say yates dominated in one of those pics...
in face he looks so bad.... but of course his fans will never admit...
ok man its cool

MB · « **Reply #91 on:** August 28, 2012, 06:33:16 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on August 28, 2012, 04:35:15 PM

ok so let me clarify....
if they said to you have a back like nasser or have two torn arms.... you take those torn arms?
nasser pwned yates everywhere else it was embarrassing
NO ONE SHOULE BE allowed to win the award o top bodybuilder in the world with torn muscles .... especially noticable ones like orian arms..... that was bullshit.... 92 93.... dorian won... the rest he was given gifted

A torn biceps is only visible in the front double biceps pose. Even if Yates lost that pose, he won every other one. If you have a torn pec, lat, or quad those are harder to hide.

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #92 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:03:00 PM »

Dorian dominated from the front, back & side in 1992, 1993, 1995. In 1996 (he only dominated from the back), but he sure as hell didn't dominate in 1994 and 1997.

How the hell did Dorian get a perfect score in the symmetry round at the 1994 Mr. Olympia looking like this? Someone explain this because Milos (who came 13th) is owning the shit out Dorian.

4th pic is the score card.

POTA · « **Reply #93 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:35:53 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on August 28, 2012, 04:03:44 PM

Deepest cuts in the history of bodybuilding right there. The lines on his back are crazy deep, look at the shadows they're casting

I have more here.

io856 · « **Reply #94 on:** August 28, 2012, 11:04:08 PM »

Quote from: POTA on August 28, 2012, 10:35:53 PM

I have more here.

Asif post on bodybuilding.com

johnny1 · « **Reply #95 on:** August 28, 2012, 11:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on August 28, 2012, 09:03:00 PM

Dorian dominated from the front, back & side in 1992, 1993, 1995. In 1996 (he only dominated from the back), but he sure as hell didn't dominate in 1994 and 1997.

How the hell did Dorian get a perfect score in the symmetry round at the 1994 Mr. Olympia looking like this? Someone explain this because Milos (who came 13th) is owning the shit out Dorian.

4th pic is the score card.

The same thing can be said of Ronnie Ice, in 2001 @ the O he didn't "Dominate" Cutler, or in 2002 @ the O he SCRAPPED bye with the win IMO only due to Levrone showing up with Sup-par Quads that year, and he Didn't "Dominate" @ the other Show he lost to Gunter in as well, Point being there was ALWAYS years the top champs looked liked crap (Bye there own high standards) its a 2 way street ice Both Coleman and Yates had somewhat "Questionable" Victory's, there are a NUMBER of pics showing Yates in Great Condition @ the 1997 O....obviously his arm was Shocking and his waist wider etc @ 270lbs and there's probably not too many who would of Blinked twice IF Nasser had gotten the Nod in 97, nether Coleman and Yates were "Perfect" however IMO Both @ their Respective Bests Yates was a touch more Balanced than Coleman overall, Coleman was Ultra Huge and Freakier no doubt about it however that alone wouldn't IMO guarantee him Victory, its the Balance of their Physiques 1st and foremost @ their Primes that could be the Answer in a Contest of the 2 THEN the rest of the Criteria would follow, and with that, there would be a result ether-way.

Figo · « **Reply #96 on:** August 29, 2012, 05:58:53 AM »

Contests are not judged by one pic from one angle taken at a specific point in time

Regarding domination, even Haney in 90 and Arnold in 80 had their difficulties

Dickerson won in 82 over what many thought were better bbers with a torn pec and arm

Franco won with no legs in 81 and mutant gyno

SomeKindofMonster · « **Reply #97 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:58:30 AM »

Quote from: PJim on August 28, 2012, 09:23:01 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067

He carried the mass perfectly well.

Yes he did in 95 but anytime he got super dry he seemed to lose
his thigh mass. The pics pre contest 1995 prove it.

Watch the 1993 prejudging video where he was a tad fuller
(I personally like the bit fuller look better)
His legs look awesome (and his arms for that matter)
at the 1993 Mr. O prejudging.
I think he had dried out more; or less carbs for the night show
and his legs had lost some sweep and size.

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #98 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:00:46 AM »

He dominated the 90's no doubt I wouldnt say 100% though ....

One thing is for sure he will go down in history as the Mr.O with worst arms ever.

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H

PJim · « **Reply #99 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:07:05 AM »

Quote from: Pet shop boys on August 29, 2012, 08:00:46 AM

He dominated the 90's no doubt I wouldnt say 100% though ....

One thing is for sure he will go down in history as the Mr.O with worst arms ever.

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H

No, that would be Dickerson and Franco.

Author Topic: Dorian Yates dominated the 90's in bodybuilding? (Read 21391 times)

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