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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2012, 04:38:52 PM »
The Permanent Slavery Act

During his first inaugural speech, given on March 4, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln stated that he approved of a Constitutional amendment which would guarantee permanent slavery in the United States. The “Great Emancipator” said, "I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. Holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable." This amendment, supported by Lincoln, is shown here.





This act was passed on March 2, 1861 (The same day the Morrill Tariff was passed ) by both houses of Congress with a 66% vote. This was after the first seven states seceded from the Union, forming the Confederate States of America.

 It is interesting that we are talking about the Federal Government, and not the Confederate Government, passing an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing permanent slavery. If this amendment had been ratified by ľ of the states, the federal government would have been prevented from abolishing slavery in any state! Again, that is was the Northern Congress, and not the Southern Congress that passed this amendment – with President Lincoln’s approval, is to me amazingly hypocritical.

Moreover, this indicates that slavery was not the issue that caused the Civil War. Clearly the North approved of slavery, and was willing to try enacting a Constitutional amendment to preserve slavery. If the Confederate states wanted to ensure the protection of slavery, then all they would have had to do is return to the Union and ratify this amendment. Something the South did not do. The South did not ratify the Northern Congressionally passed Permanent Slavery Act.

There are many who believe that Lincoln’s support of the Permanent Slavery Act was nothing more than a political maneuver to manipulate the Southern states into returning to the Union, and thus being subject to the new 40% tax imposed on them by the Morrill Tariff. With the South importing and exporting as much as 80% of the nations goods, they would have paid an equal amount of the nation’s import taxes. All from an area which made up only 33% of the nations population. The South complained that the tax was unfair and burdensome to its population, and they were right, especially when one considers that the revenue from the tax would have been spent on Northern interests and not in the South.

The South also questioned Lincoln’s right to serve as President, as he was elected with only 39% of the popular vote. A question that has plagued numerous presidential election since then. In addition, in his inaugural speech Lincoln stated that he would not invade the South, except to collect taxes and possess tax collection stations (such as Fort Sumter). He stated, “The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the government, and to collect the duties and imposts [import taxes]; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere.” I am confident that the South, especially South Carolina clearly remembered the broken promise of President Buchanan to not take over Fort Sumter. A promise made only a few months before Lincoln took office, and broken almost immediately.

The South’s concern was that Lincoln would invade the South, abolish State sovereignty, and establish a centralist federal government, all powerful, and impose higher taxes and reduce personal freedoms. Similar to the current situation in America today.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2012, 04:39:24 PM »
blah blah blah

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2012, 04:39:57 PM »
Here is the trailer.


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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 04:42:04 PM »
  Lincoln only drove the emancipation proclamation home to hurt the south militarily.. Lincoln even met with confederate officials as late as 1864 and agreed to let them keep the slaves in their territories but they must come back to the union.. Jefferson davis said no.. But the issue was still on the table as late as summer 1864.. The mythical status Lincoln has is not based on the facts..  I could go on about the voter fraud n 1864 that he was in control of but that is a different subject..

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 04:43:38 PM »
   I could go on about the voter fraud n 1864 that he was in control of but that is a different subject..

thanks for sparing us, bud

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2012, 04:45:38 PM »
Well, as history proved it, it sure was a bad mistake to consider that black people were equals of white people.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2012, 04:47:43 PM »
history will be rewritten after this oscar baiting movie has had its success

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2012, 04:49:10 PM »
history will be rewritten after this oscar baiting movie has had its success
exactly, it will be as shity as amistad.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2012, 04:49:18 PM »
Also..lol. Now that Adonis has me going..  The civil war was not related to slavery near what history would le to tell ya.. The south held cotton.. The south did not need the norh.. The north needed the south. To let you know the mentality of northern troops towards slavery when the e.p. passed in 63 numerous union regiments mutinied and tried to lay down their arms.. As of today you couldn't get people to lay down their lives for slavery let alone 160 years ago...

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2012, 04:54:28 PM »
Also..lol. Now that Adonis has me going..  The civil war was not related to slavery near what history would le to tell ya.. The south held cotton.. The south did not need the norh.. The north needed the south. To let you know the mentality of northern troops towards slavery when the e.p. passed in 63 numerous union regiments mutinied and tried to lay down their arms.. As of today you couldn't get people to lay down their lives for slavery let alone 160 years ago...
By all means continue.
The North also had wide moneyed interests in holding the South`s money in their banks (headquartered in New York) with no intention of giving it back to them. Plain Thievery.  Let`s not forget that Salmon P. Chase created the Internal Revenue Service and established the income tax as a war time measure to raise funds for the North.  Something that has stuck with us since that time.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2012, 04:58:53 PM »
Oh jesus, not another civil war debate thread.  Why do we have to go down this road.  Nobody really gives a shit.  It's a movie.  It'll probably be decent, nothing special.  Why are you fucking fucks getting your panties so twisted with each other?   ???

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2012, 04:59:38 PM »
Oh jesus, not another civil war debate thread.  Why do we have to go down this road.  Nobody really gives a shit.  It's a movie.  It'll probably be decent, nothing special.  Why are you fucking fucks getting your panties so twisted with each other?   ???
Why bother talking about anything?



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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2012, 05:00:00 PM »
id much rather read posts by Lats and Adonis about abe liconl than watch this stupid shitty film
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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2012, 05:01:33 PM »
Why bother talking about anything?




we come to getbig for pyramid shits, not your half-assed history lessons.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2012, 05:01:45 PM »
Why bother talking about anything?



\\what about heme-iron adonis why do you chose to consume so much of it if you are so intelligent

before you posts studies why eating food is bad, yes eating food is bad if your consuming heme-iron rich products with it

Abe LINK COLON
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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2012, 05:02:19 PM »
id much rather read posts by Lats and Adonis about abe liconl than watch this stupid shitty film

Great point.  TA and Lats will probably be much more entertaining than this flick.   :D

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2012, 05:04:28 PM »
we come to getbig for pyramid shits, not your half-assed history lessons.
;D ;D ;D

adonis is still having internal warfare about the matter of why he's even posting about Abe link colon when in reality most of his true thoughts are comprimised of 18 year old fine assed blonde hoes

well the reason is I MADE him post about Abe link colon since im not allowed to send direct messages but rather subtle influences is what i can get away with  and still be allowed to stay on earth
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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2012, 05:05:23 PM »
Daniel Day Lewis might very well be the greatest actor ever.

I agree , the guy just destroys every role he's in.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 05:06:03 PM »
Why bother talking about anything?

No, why bother talking about the same lame shit over and over.  This board has about 4-5 civil war debate threads a year.  It's getting old.  We should talk about something new and refreshing.  Not the same bullshit that will result in each user scouring google for information, cutting and pasting, and then trying to act like an authority on the matter.   :D

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2012, 05:06:18 PM »
Great point.  TA and Lats will probably be much more entertaining than this flick.   :D

Imagine this shit film being 5 hours long rotting on your leather sofa feeling like shit

adonis is still haveing a hard times coming to terms about the heme-iron thing and the abe-ables-link-colon predicament wich is most understandable
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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2012, 05:07:16 PM »
i always talk about everything its good to bother everything and shed light upon it
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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2012, 05:08:37 PM »
Imagine this shit film being 5 hours long rotting on your leather sofa feeling like shit

adonis is still haveing a hard times coming to terms about the heme-iron thing and the abe-ables-link-colon predicament wich is most understandable

Do you think the high levels of heme irons coursing through TA's veins are the reason he hasn't been able to finish his deck?  Maybe he's not getting enough calories for energy and pyramid shits.   ;D

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2012, 05:09:24 PM »
I think the film will be accurate.  The trailer is never as it seems and Daniel Day Lewis has read everything he could at the Library of Congress and Countless books on the subject.  Lincoln does deserve an accurate portrayal and I only wish the film could be 5 hours long.

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« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2012, 05:11:56 PM »
How much Heme-Iron is in Onion Smothered Blade Pork Chops and Mashed Potatoes cooked in Bacon Fat and Heavy Cream?  We are about to make this meal tonight.

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Re: Special Link to see Lincoln Trailer Live with Spielberg. in 5 Minutes
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2012, 05:12:21 PM »
I think the film will be accurate.  The trailer is never as it seems and Daniel Day Lewis has read everything he could at the Library of Congress and Countless books on the subject.  Lincoln does deserve an accurate portrayal and I only wish the film could be 5 hours long.

Serious question, if you could leave your current life right now and go back to the 19th century, would you?  One way trip.