PHIL HEATH .... lets remind everyone why hes the champ

[Shockwave]

I will say that Phil's back double biceps is among top 10 best of all time as of last Mr. O.

Agree, he has a great BDB.
Although, again, I don't think he's anywhere near as thick as Ron or Dorian.. but that may come with time.
Whether or not he can keep his conditioning along with it... eh....

[NarcissisticDeity]

I will say that Phil's back double biceps is among top 10 best of all time as of last Mr. O.

Easy it lacks NOTHING

[Wiggs]

The only legit threat Phil has is Kai. Kai was beating Phil before when he knew how to come in condition. Phil caught up and passed him. Interested in seeing Kai as much as Phil. He has all the size and thickness in the world. His structure is different but all his muscle makes up for it. He has no muscles out of place has great calves. It'd just his conditioning. And unless he can come in 2009 Arnold condition at no more than 260lbs, with a flat gut, he's not beating phil.

[Rudee]

Narrow as a brook trout!

[NeoSeminole]

Easy it lacks NOTHING

ND, do you consider Phil's rear double biceps better than Dorian's? If not, how come?

[Shockwave]

ND, do you consider Phil's rear double biceps better than Dorian's? If not, how come?

Man, the lighting at the 95 O was terrible. Everyone looks washed out as fuck.

[NeoSeminole]

Man, the lighting at the 95 O was terrible. Everyone looks washed out as fuck.

it's the only contest I've seen where everyone looked yellow

[Wiggs]

ND, do you consider Phil's rear double biceps better than Dorian's? If not, how come?

Hahahhahahahaaha....oh boy...

there's no doubt it is.  The only back double bi comparable to Phils would be Ronnie, Flex, Yates, and a handfull of others. Phil's bdb is clearly better than Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, do you consider Phil's rear double biceps better than Dorian's? If not, how come?

Must everything lead back to Dorian ? and weren't you already chastised by Kevin Horton for comparing that pic to Ronnies?

[Shockwave]

Must everything lead back to Dorian ?

I think his back shots from the 96 GP are the most impressive.

[Wiggs]

Must everything lead back to Dorian ?

So you show an pic not in a contest?  The stage is where it counts. Please provide photo or evidence where Dorian's bdb is better than Phil's if you believe it is. Do you?

[NeoSeminole]

Must everything lead back to Dorian ?

there's no question Phil hasn't reached Ronnie's level yet. I wanted to hear your input regarding Dorian. You claimed that's Phil's rear double biceps lacks nothing. Seeing as how Dorian often comes up in threads about best backs, I figured I would ask you

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hahahhahahahaaha....oh boy...

there's no doubt it is.  The only back double bi comparable to Phils would be Ronnie, Flex, Yates, and a handfull of others. Phil's bdb is clearly better than Yates

I don't agree at all , I think Phil's is outstanding but Yates has him by far

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier and has a better back to boot.

Phil 240 , Dorian 270

[Wiggs]

Think really carefully before you answer ND...

[Shockwave]

I don't agree at all , I think Phil's is outstanding but Yates has him by far

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier and has a better back to boot.

Phil 240 , Dorian 270

Post the caps from the 96 German GP ND.

[NeoSeminole]

by the way, if you are going to use offseason pics of Dorian then it's only fair to extend the same courtesy to Phil

[NarcissisticDeity]

there's no question Phil hasn't reached Ronnie's level yet. I wanted to hear your input regarding Dorian. You claimed that's Phil's rear double biceps lacks nothing. Seeing as how Dorian often comes up in threads about best backs, I figured I would ask you

It really doesn't lack anything , but compared to Dorian it does. ( see above ) Phil's is more complete than Ronnies but I wouldn't say his is better either

Dorian and Ronnie both have better backs than Phil and both kill him in standing relaxed front and back , and lats spreads this is why they both kill him in back shots , as well as both being bigger with equal or better conditioning

[NarcissisticDeity]

by the way, if you are going to use offseason pics of Dorian then it's only fair to extend the same courtesy to Phil

Not impressed , he looks eons better lighter

[NarcissisticDeity]

Post the caps from the 96 German GP ND.

Phil's is the best right now , ain't touching this

[NeoSeminole]

I think his back shots from the 96 GP are the most impressive.

his arms were so underwhelming at that contest that it throws off his balance. Looks bad, IMO

[Shockwave]

his arms were so underwhelming at that contest that it throws off his balance. Looks bad, IMO

Certain angles, yes... But really, they don't eff up the BDB like they do the FDB.

[Wiggs]

I don't agree at all , I think Phil's is outstanding but Yates has him by far

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier and has a better back to boot.

Phil 240 , Dorian 270

First off Mr. Manipulator, if you're gonna use weights to inflate you claim, then you logically and morally use pics or videos at that weight and the only time Dorian was 270 onstage was the 97 Mr. O. So If I post some 1997 Mr. pics of Dorian Yates, doing a bdb you're saying that's better than Phil Heath pics from Last year Mr. O. 

Why don't you post your best pics of Dorian doing a bdb from the 97 Mr. O. Cause all you're doing is showing offseason photos. 

IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN ON STAGE IT DOESN'T COUNT AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

[NarcissisticDeity]

So you show an pic not in a contest?  The stage is where it counts. Please provide photo or evidence where Dorian's bdb is better than Phil's if you believe it is. Do you?

Done 

[Nails]

[NarcissisticDeity]

First off Mr. Manipulator, if you're gonna use weights to inflate you claim, then you logically and morally use pics or videos at that weight and the only time Dorian was 270 onstage was the 97 Mr. O. So If I post some 1997 Mr. pics of Dorian Yates, doing a bdb you're saying that's better than Phil Heath pics from Last year Mr. O. 

Why don't you post your best pics of Dorian doing a bdb from the 97 Mr. O. Cause all you're doing is showing offseason photos. 

IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN ON STAGE IT DOESN'T COUNT AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

One he wasn't ' off-season ' he was pre-contest , Two it's considered by many to be the best he's ever looked ( I agree ) Three I don't need it because plenty of pics of Dorian on-stage and he's still bigger , still has a better back , and is still much drier & denser