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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2012, 07:25:05 AM »
i said it from Day 1 as soon as Obama stepped on the national stage.   I saw through all the bs and knew he was a wannabe 3rd world dictator like Mugabe et al.

ObamaDoc will do anything to retain power. 

Rush said a few months back that Obama would do whatever was necessary to get the unemployment number under 8% just prior to the election…this is criminal.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2012, 07:33:38 AM »
Rush said a few months back that Obama would do whatever was necessary to get the unemployment number under 8% just prior to the election…this is criminal.

i can't wait for his show today.  Gonna wreck obama for this.  But the pundit isn't running for prez.

Come on mitt, you got this.... attack obama for this convenient lie!


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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2012, 07:45:08 AM »
That’s the biggest swing in the UE numbers in the last 40 months.  ::)

Even CNBC commentators are calling the jobs report bogus. While CNBC tends to be more conservative than its parent NBC, to openly and collectively dispute the report is pretty strong.

They can lie they can cheat…American people saw the debate, and the contrast between Mitt and Obama is clear, (Good and Evil)…I have full confident that people will prevail!!! Watch Ryan and Biden’s debate Thursday Oct 11 as Ryan shreds these fake numbers.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2012, 09:03:21 AM »
One of the big numbers from the report:

# of people that had to take a 2nd part time job because of "economic hardship" went from 515,000 thousand to 8,116,000 million.

7.5 million peoples economic/employment/wage etc situations deteriorated to the point where they had to go find a job flipping burgers for 20 hours a week.


That's not progress, that's regression.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2012, 09:13:00 AM »
i can't wait for his show today.  Gonna wreck obama for this.  But the pundit isn't running for prez.

Come on mitt, you got this.... attack obama for this convenient lie!



Here is Mitt's response:


Here's the full statement:

“This is not what a real recovery looks like. We created fewer jobs in September than in August, and fewer jobs in August than in July, and we’ve lost over 600,000 manufacturing jobs since President Obama took office. If not for all the people who have simply dropped out of the labor force, the real unemployment rate would be closer to 11%. The results of President Obama's failed policies are staggering – 23 million Americans struggling for work, nearly one in six living in poverty and 47 million people dependent on food stamps to feed themselves and their families. The choice in this election is clear. Under President Obama, we’ll get another four years like the last four years. If I’m elected, we will have a real recovery with pro-growth policies that will create 12 million new jobs and rising incomes for everyone.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-september-jobs-report-not-real-recovery-2012-10


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-september-jobs-report-not-real-recovery-2012-10#ixzz28RRo9vSk

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2012, 09:53:59 AM »
Today's 'Good' Jobs Report Was Actually Terrible
James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute|Oct. 5, 2012, 10:44 AM|3,252|24




Is this the Obama October Surprise?
 
Only in an era of depressingly diminished expectations could the September jobs report be called a good one. It really isn’t. Not at all.
 
1. Yes, the U-3 unemployment rate fell to 7.8%, the first time it has been below 8% since January 2009. But that’s only due to a flood of 582,000 part-time jobs. As the Labor Department noted:
 

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) rose from 8.0 million in August to 8.6 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.
 
2. And take-home pay? Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have risen by just 1.8 percent. When you take inflation into account, wages are flat to down.
 
3. The broader U-6 rate — which takes into account part-time workers who want full-time work and lots of discouraged workers who’ve given up looking — stayed unchanged at 14.7%. That’s a better gauge of the true unemployment rate and state of the American labor market.
 


4. The shrunken workforce remains shrunken. If the labor force participation rate was the same as when President Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%. If the participation rate had just stayed steady since the start of the year, the unemployment rate would be 8.4% vs. 8.3%. Where’s the progress? Here is RDQ Economics:
 
Such a rapid decline in the unemployment rate would be consistent with 4%–5% real economic growth historically but much of the decline is accounted for by people dropping out of the labor force (over the last year the employment-population ratio has risen to only 58.7% from 58.4%).  We believe part of the drop in the unemployment rate over the last two months is a statistical quirk (the household data show an increase in employment of 873,000 in September, which is completely implausible and likely a result of sampling volatility).  Moreover, declining labor force participation over the last year (resulting in 1.1 million people disappearing from the labor force) accounts for much of the rest of the decline.
 
5. As the chart below shows — a chart originally produced by Team Obama — even the artificially depressed 7.8% unemployment rate is way above the 5.6% unemployment rate the White House predicted for September 2012 if Congress passed the $800 billion stimulus package back in 2009.
 





James Pethokoukis
 

6. The 114,000 jobs created would have been a good number … but for 1962, not 2012. The U.S. economy needs 2-3 times that number every month to close the jobs gap (which is the number of jobs that the U.S. economy needs to create in order to return to pre-recession employment levels while also absorbing the people who enter the labor force each month.) At 114,000 jobs a month, the jobs gap would not close until after 2025, according to the Hamilton Project.
 
7.  We are still on pace to create fewer jobs this year than last year. In 2012, employment growth has averaged 146,000 per month, compared with an average monthly gain of 153,000 in 2011.
 
8. White House economist Alan Krueger says the jobs numbers are ”further evidence” the economy is healing. But he’s wrong.
 
The employment-population ratio, which merely shows how many folks have jobs as a share of the civilian population, was 58.7%. Now that’s up from last month. But it is still far below where it was in June 2009, 59.4%,when the recession officially ended. And it’s even further below the 63% level before the downturn


Read more: http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/10/the-sickly-stagnant-september-jobs-report/#ixzz28RbiGFh8


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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2012, 11:38:54 AM »
Meet the Obama Donors at the BLS

BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
October 5, 2012 1:28 pm





At least two economists at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) have contributed to President Barack Obama’s campaign. Harley Frazis of Bethesda, MD, has contributed at least $2,000 to Obama and $9,000 to the Democratic National Convention over the last three election cycles. During his time at BLS, Harley has published a number of papers including his most recent, “How to Think About Time-Use Data: What Inferences Can We Make About Long- and Short-Run Time Use from Time Diaries?”
 
Stephen Phillips of Washington, D.C., has contributed at least $270 to Obama during the 2012 cycle. According to his LinkedIn profile, Phillips has been an economist at BLS since June 2009. Phillips was responsible for examining the impact of Obamacare on Healthcare North American Industry Classification System indices. Phillips was also assistant coach for a girls’ high school tennis team in 2010.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2012, 11:41:20 AM »
Meet the Obama Donors at the BLS

BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
October 5, 2012 1:28 pm





At least two economists at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) have contributed to President Barack Obama’s campaign. Harley Frazis of Bethesda, MD, has contributed at least $2,000 to Obama and $9,000 to the Democratic National Convention over the last three election cycles. During his time at BLS, Harley has published a number of papers including his most recent, “How to Think About Time-Use Data: What Inferences Can We Make About Long- and Short-Run Time Use from Time Diaries?”
 
Stephen Phillips of Washington, D.C., has contributed at least $270 to Obama during the 2012 cycle. According to his LinkedIn profile, Phillips has been an economist at BLS since June 2009. Phillips was responsible for examining the impact of Obamacare on Healthcare North American Industry Classification System indices. Phillips was also assistant coach for a girls’ high school tennis team in 2010.

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Romney, speak on this.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2012, 11:43:06 AM »
One of the big numbers from the report:

# of people that had to take a 2nd part time job because of "economic hardship" went from 515,000 thousand to 8,116,000 million.

7.5 million peoples economic/employment/wage etc situations deteriorated to the point where they had to go find a job flipping burgers for 20 hours a week.


That's not progress, that's regression.

Clarification/Correction.

The number of people taking up a 2nd part-time low wage job because of economic hardship increased from 7.5 million to 8.116 million, a jump of 515k.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2012, 04:58:40 PM »
Clarification/Correction.

The number of people taking up a 2nd part-time low wage job because of economic hardship increased from 7.5 million to 8.116 million, a jump of 515k.

Remember when 240, Blacken and co. criticized Perry for adding shitty low-wage retail and part-time jobs? I do.  :)

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2012, 07:04:48 PM »
Remember when 240, Blacken and co. criticized Perry for adding shitty low-wage retail and part-time jobs? I do.  :)

also, 240 criticized obama first thing this morning for completely falsifying these numbers.

my only beef is that romney didn't announce "7.8 is some fake-ass bullshit" at 9:05 this morning on the mic.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2012, 07:14:06 PM »
I stand by what I've been saying for months. Either Obama wins by a slim.margin or this will be a land slide victory for Romney.

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2012, 07:58:59 PM »
I stand by what I've been saying for months. Either Obama wins by a slim.margin or this will be a land slide victory for Romney.

he needs MONEY and some serious positive trending in the swing states where he's trailing badly.

When do the September donor numbers come out?

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« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2012, 08:01:48 PM »
he needs MONEY and some serious positive trending in the swing states where he's trailing badly.

When do the September donor numbers come out?

Romney is trending up in rge swing states.   

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« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2012, 08:10:25 PM »
Romney is trending up in rge swing states.   

excellent news.  how much, and in which states?  when does the $ numbers come out?

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« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2012, 08:11:10 PM »
excellent news.  how much, and in which states?  when does the $ numbers come out?

Go to RCP

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Re: More BS from the BLS - UE dops to 7.8% w only 114k jobs? WTF!
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2012, 08:25:20 PM »
Go to RCP

RCP contains tends of thousands of polls.  Surely you remember the ones you read today showing Romney taking leads in swing states.

Link please

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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2012, 08:25:50 PM »
RCP contains tends of thousands of polls.  Surely you remember the ones you read today showing Romney taking leads in swing states.

Link please

RAS. 

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« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2012, 08:33:36 PM »
RAS. 

Oh, you are unable to find them on the original website you recommended, so you have another link?

ok nevermind

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« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2012, 08:34:09 PM »
Oh, you are unable to find them on the original website you recommended, so you have another link?

ok nevermind

I'm lazy. 

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