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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2012, 01:56:52 AM »
THIS>

It's not even close in those pictures.  Phil looks awesome, but Kai looks like he is from another world in those pics.

KAI is quickly going to become the underdog and fan favorite.  Phil will quickly lose respect if he's continually handed wins like this one - Kai looks huge next to him.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.  Kai is the closest we may ever get to a prime Coleman in our lifetime.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2012, 01:58:56 AM »
tab this picture up in a window to see the full size:




Phil looks good here!

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2012, 02:28:16 AM »
Quote from: Rocky-Balboa;960256793
Would like to see people opinions. No bias please for the Phil and Kai fanboys. Explain why if you can.



FDB: Kai
Why? This pose for him has dramically improved over the last 1-2 years. Now he is at the point where the pose flows well and his waist is in check. His lats are clearly wider and one big flaw Phil has in this pose is his chest, which looks very flat compared to Kai's which looks thick and full. Legs are pretty close in this pose, but upper body of Kai's gets him the win here.



FLS: Draw
Why? Generally Phil's abs are very visible in this pose and give him the slight edge to look more conditioned. Here, they barely show. Kai's lats are wider but everything else is too close to choose a clear winner.



RLS: Phil
Why? Even though the judges at the olympia gave this pose to Kai, i think Phil edges him out in it. Only reason is conditioning. Phil's back has great detail in this pose and his traps looks great. Kai has more mass everywhere and in the legs and is clearly wider, but lacks the detail. Looks too smooth. However, if he was a little more conditioned and built his traps up, Kai would win this pose.



BDB: Kai
Why? His lats are much wider, back overall bigger and more detailed, arms much bigger with amazing peaks and tricep sweep, quads have better sweep and more overall leg mass, hamstring and calves bigger and more detailed. Conditoioning is similar on both, but Kai has too much mass for Phil to compare with.



SC: Kai
Why? The thing that stands out immediately is Kai's quads. Amazing striations and mass which Phil lacks. Chest is clearly larger and fuller, and arms look crazy compared to Phil's here. Conditioning similar, but again Kai has too many stand out parts which Phil doesn't. This is Kai's best pose.



ST: Draw
Why? This pose could go either way. At the Olympia Phil won it imo. But here, Kai's legs seem much more bigger and detailed and his chest looks fuller. Phil obviously has the better triceps and midsection. So could go either way depending on whats judges favor.



A&T: Kai
Why? Lats wider (which shows Phil's structural flaw) and quads obviously better then Phils. Amazing striations. Phil has the tighter midsection, but still isn't enough to make his lats look bigger. Kai wins this pose but not by much.



MM: Phil
His arms and delts look crazy in this pose. Kai doesn't have the huge round detailed shoulders and traps like Phil.


Cliffs:
FBD: Kai
FLS: Draw
RLS: Phil
BDB: Kai
SC: Kai
ST: Draw
A&T: Kai
MM: Phil

Kai: 4
Phil: 2
Draw/could go to either: 2

Overall winner: Kai.


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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2012, 09:26:07 AM »
Philsulin Cheath at it again. Kai needs to stand next to philsulin and dont let him stand closer to judges. 8)

IMO Kai win clearly this one.

They are pushing Philsulin like it is best BB of history. Put him next to Yates and Ronnie and he disappears. 8)
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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2012, 12:56:35 PM »
Love the way Phil puts his hand on Kai to try to be nice.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2012, 01:23:36 PM »
Philsulin Cheath at it again. Kai needs to stand next to philsulin and dont let him stand closer to judges. 8)

IMO Kai win clearly this one.

They are pushing Philsulin like it is best BB of history. Put him next to Yates and Ronnie and he disappears. 8)

Yep.

I think Phil legitimately won the Olympia, but Kai definitely took this contest.  Phil faded while Kai filled out and got even leaner.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2012, 01:37:55 PM »


Kai looks crazy here. Just beast

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2012, 01:40:48 PM »


Always loved roellys mm. Here it finally gets put between kai and heath.

Heaths mm is massive but sucks bc of lack of width

Kai is good but pretty unaestethic

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2012, 01:51:53 PM »


Always loved roellys mm. Here it finally gets put between kai and heath.

Heaths mm is massive but sucks bc of lack of width

Kai is good but pretty unaestethic

he looks the smallest there....
choice is an illusion

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2012, 04:18:44 PM »
he looks the smallest there....


what exactly are you referring to?

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Re: Kai was robbed again - phil heath getting dwarfed by the real mr olympia
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2012, 04:20:00 PM »
haha compare their legs and arms in the side poses. Kai's literally twice the size with even better conditioning and more details. ;D



Kai's leg looks incredible there.


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Re: Kai was robbed again - phil heath getting dwarfed by the real mr olympia
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2012, 05:16:43 PM »
Kai's leg looks incredible there.


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He has the best legs of todays BB.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2012, 06:40:46 PM »
FLS and RDB based on those pics to PHil?
are you nuts
in FLS KAI is so much wider and thicker than Phil
and int RLS look @ the width ande xtra thickness of lats of Kai compared to phil

Kai shld have been awarded this win

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2012, 11:52:44 PM »
FLS and RDB based on those pics to PHil?
are you nuts
in FLS KAI is so much wider and thicker than Phil
and int RLS look @ the width ande xtra thickness of lats of Kai compared to phil

Kai shld have been awarded this win

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Fls shouldnt even be discussed


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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2012, 04:30:11 AM »
According to Hany in the wrap up interview, Phil was actually better than at the Olympia, "tighter in the glutes" etc. Kai on the other hand was cirka 10 % worse than the O.



Seems like a objective type of guy  ::)

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2012, 04:52:06 AM »
Note to Kai: Only Flex looks good in the Hands on hips MM.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2012, 04:54:14 AM »
                              Kai

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2012, 05:06:18 AM »
Seriously this shit isn't even funny anymore. I truly believe it is as mesomorph says, that the judges are blinded by Phil's arms. Kai is beating him in 90 percent of poses.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2012, 05:11:39 AM »
Seriously this shit isn't even funny anymore. I truly believe it is as mesomorph says, that the judges are blinded by Phil's arms. Kai is beating him in 90 percent of poses.

The judges are blinded by more than Phil'$ arm$.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2012, 05:12:56 AM »
The judges are blinded by more than Phil'$ arm$.

I hear you loud and clear bro

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2012, 06:52:35 AM »
Seriously this shit isn't even funny anymore. I truly believe it is as mesomorph says, that the judges are blinded by Phil's arms. Kai is beating him in 90 percent of poses.
100%
Not only judges all this full round muscle belly talk aside from his arms where are they
Listen to the shit Dennis's James and chic said greatest mr O of all time why .... His arms low inserted triceps mainly people are sheep and dumb
If you look at any of the pictures posted on this thread where they are all standing on stage.. If you didn't know Phil was mr o and they asked randomly 1000 people do you think they would pick Phil out those pics as mr o
choice is an illusion

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2012, 07:05:47 AM »
The Sheru pics show that you can't hide narrow.

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Re: 2012 Sheru Classic - Kai robbed again
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2012, 07:23:57 AM »
What makes a contest "Classic"?   

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Re: Kai robbed again
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2012, 07:29:17 AM »
picture of the year


Godamn it, Look at the expansion on Kai's back......even a fucking blind man will say that Kai win this picture by 10 miles long