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By the numbers....
« on: October 10, 2012, 07:54:28 AM »

Keep Medicare
Keep Social Security
Keep Jobs programs
ADD defense spending
Repeal Obamacare but keep the pre-existing conditions clause as well as "keep families covered up until any age they might like" (direct quote)
Reduce the tax burden by 20%.


All Im asking is it possible?



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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 10:50:12 AM »
interesting

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 11:16:15 AM »
interesting

The right-wing getbig nutjobs will avoid this thread like the plague. LOL

The answer, of course, is NO. It will all be done by blowing up the budget deficit, just like republicans always do;)

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 11:25:17 AM »
Keep Medicare
Keep Social Security
Keep Jobs programs
ADD defense spending
Repeal Obamacare but keep the pre-existing conditions clause as well as "keep families covered up until any age they might like" (direct quote)
Reduce the tax burden by 20%.


All Im asking is it possible?



Somebodies been watching the Daily show. It's ok, I caught it last night too.

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 11:38:03 AM »
Somebodies been watching the Daily show. It's ok, I caught it last night too.

and im just asking if its possible. I didnt declare anything. Didnt proclaim anything... just wondering what the facts were and how they were taken here

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 11:39:01 AM »
and im just asking if its possible. I didnt declare anything. Didnt proclaim anything... just wondering what the facts were and how they were taken here
Jon Stewart basically did the same thing on the daily show last night, exact same question. It was comical.

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 11:40:25 AM »
Somebodies been watching the Daily show. It's ok, I caught it last night too.
I ask the same thing (knowing the answer already, of course), and I can't stand The Daily Show.

It's obvious that there is no way in hell you can balance the budget with those promises made by Romney. ObamaCare saves money, but the other LIES Romney told, along with spending more on the military...that shit doesn't add up.

Like Clinton said, its simple arithmetic.

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2012, 11:44:30 AM »
Jon Stewart basically did the same thing on the daily show last night, exact same question. It was comical.

I saw it. it was funny as hell. I was just wondering what the numbers were on both positions. And how was stuff gonna get paid for.

But no one wants to say who they take from because it will cut of a block of possible voters


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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2012, 11:51:31 AM »
Somebodies been watching the Daily show. It's ok, I caught it last night too.

Same here, good watch

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 07:49:24 AM »
Not a whole lot of participation here by some folks....This is odd....Wheres 333386 chiming in. I know hes seen it

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 07:52:18 AM »
Not a whole lot of participation here by some folks....This is odd....Wheres 333386 chiming in. I know hes seen it

Because he lives in the same alternate reality where Romney lives as well.

A fairy tale world where facts doesnt matter.

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 08:12:46 AM »
Set Honest Goals: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP

Any turnaround must begin with clear and realistic goals. Optimistic projections cannot wish a problem away, they can only make it worse. As president, Mitt’s goal will be to bring federal spending below 20 percent of GDP by the end of his first term:

    Reduced from 24.3 percent last year; in line with the historical trend between 18 and 20 percent
    Close to the tax revenue generated by the economy when healthy
    Requires spending cuts of approximately $500 billion per year in 2016 assuming robust economic recovery with 4% annual growth, and reversal of irresponsible Obama-era defense cuts

Take Immediate Action: Return Non-Security Discretionary Spending To Below 2008 Levels


Any turnaround must also stop the bleeding and reverse the most recent and dramatic damage:

    Send Congress a bill on Day One that cuts non-security discretionary spending by 5 percent across the board
    Pass the House Republican Budget proposal, rolling back President Obama’s government expansion by capping non-security discretionary spending below 2008 levels

Follow A Clear Roadmap: Build A Simpler, Smaller, Smarter Government

Most importantly, any turnaround must have a thoughtful, structured approach to achieving its goals. Mitt will attack the bloated budget from three angles:

    The Federal Government Should Stop Doing Things The American People Can’t Afford, For Instance:
        Repeal Obamacare — Savings: $95 Billion. President Obama’s costly takeover of the health care system imposes an enormous and unaffordable obligation on the federal government while intervening in a matter that should be left to the states. Mitt will begin his efforts to repeal this legislation on Day One.
        Privatize Amtrak — Savings: $1.6 Billion. Despite requirement that Amtrak operate on a for-profit basis, it continues to receive about $1.6 billion in taxpayer funds each year. Forty-one of Amtrak’s 44 routes lost money in 2008 with losses ranging from $5 to $462 per passenger.
        Reduce Subsidies For The National Endowments For The Arts And Humanities, The Corporation For Public Broadcasting, And The Legal Services Corporation — Savings: $600 Million. NEA, NEH, and CPB provide grants to supplement other sources of funding. LSC funds services mostly duplicative of those already offered by states, localities, bar associations and private organizations.
        Eliminate Title X Family Planning Funding — Savings: $300 Million. Title X subsidizes family planning programs that benefit abortion groups like Planned Parenthood.
        Reduce Foreign Aid — Savings: $100 Million. Stop borrowing money from countries that oppose America’s interests in order to give it back to them in the form of foreign aid.

    If pursued with focus and discipline, Mitt’s approach provides a roadmap to rescue the federal government from its present precipice. But that respite will be short-lived without a plan for the looming long-term threat posed by the unsustainable nature of existing entitlement obligations. Learn more about Mitt’s proposals for entitlement reform: Medicare and Social Security.
    Empower States To Innovate — Savings: >$100 billion
        Block grants have huge potential to generate both superior results and cost savings by establishing local control and promoting innovation in areas such as Medicaid and Worker Retraining. Medicaid spending should be capped and increased each year by CPI + 1%. Department of Labor retraining spending should be capped and will increase in future years. These funds should then be given to the states to spend on their own residents. States will be free from Washington micromanagement, allowing them to develop innovative approaches that improve quality and reduce cost.
    Improve Efficiency And Effectiveness. Where the federal government should act, it must do a better job. For instance:
        Reduce Waste And Fraud — Savings: $60 Billion. The federal government made $125 billion in improper payments last year. Cutting that amount in half through stricter enforcement and harsher penalties yields returns many times over on the investment.
        Align Federal Employee Compensation With The Private Sector — Savings: $47 Billion. Federal compensation exceeds private sector levels by as much as 30 to 40 percent when benefits are taken into account. This must be corrected.
        Repeal The Davis-Bacon Act — Savings: $11 Billion. Davis-Bacon forces the government to pay above-market wages, insulating labor unions from competition and driving up project costs by approximately 10 percent.
        Reduce The Federal Workforce By 10 Percent Via Attrition — Savings: $4 Billion. Despite widespread layoffs in the private sector, President Obama has continued to grow the federal payrolls. The federal workforce can be reduced by 10 percent through a “1-for-2” system of attrition, thereby reducing the number of federal employees while allowing the introduction of new talent into the federal service.
        Consolidate agencies and streamline processes to cut costs and improve results in everything from energy permitting to worker retraining to trade negotiation.

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/spending

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Re: By the numbers....
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 08:15:27 AM »
The Federal Government Should Stop Doing Things The American People Can’t Afford, For Instance:
        Repeal Obamacare — Savings: $95 Billion. President Obama’s costly takeover of the health care system imposes an enormous and unaffordable obligation on the federal government while intervening in a matter that should be left to the states. Mitt will begin his efforts to repeal this legislation on Day One.


Thats BS you know that right?