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« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2014, 05:53:00 AM »

Was at the game.  It was perfect.
Nice. Nothing better than a day at the ballpark. I love everything about it. Gonna get the Yankees cap, with the Jeter thingy, for a friend for X-Mas.
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« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2014, 06:23:24 AM »

Was at the game.  It was perfect.


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« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2014, 11:51:29 AM »

keith oberratedman says jeter shouldn't be a first ballot HOFer  what a lame tool he is.    sick of these espn types thinking that they are bigger than the game. report the news and shut thee hell up   booooya.  backk back back...... sick of these tools.
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« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2014, 03:28:53 PM »

keith oberratedman says jeter shouldn't be a first ballot HOFer  what a lame tool he is.    sick of these espn types thinking that they are bigger than the game. report the news and shut thee hell up   booooya.  backk back back...... sick of these tools.
He is a first time HOFer easily. Great role model. By all accounts, a great man.

He does not make my top 5 Yankees though.

My top 5 Yankees:

1. Ruth
2. Gehrig
3. Dimaggio
4. Mantle
5. Rivera
6. Jeter
7. Berra
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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2014, 07:39:55 PM »

What the fuck are all these teams giving Jeter gifts for??

Hey thanks Derek for kicking the shit out of us for the last 20 years.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2014, 09:24:25 PM »

What the fuck are all these teams giving Jeter gifts for??

Hey thanks Derek for kicking the shit out of us for the last 20 years.  Roll Eyes
Its tradition. They have done it for other players as well.
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« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2014, 10:03:37 AM »

What the fuck are all these teams giving Jeter gifts for??

Hey thanks Derek for kicking the shit out of us for the last 20 years.  Roll Eyes

He's probably the last guy who will get one of these for a while.

How 'bout them O's?
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« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2014, 12:06:25 PM »

He is a first time HOFer easily. Great role model. By all accounts, a great man.

He does not make my top 5 Yankees though.

My top 5 Yankees:

1. Ruth
2. Gehrig
3. Dimaggio
4. Mantle
5. Rivera
6. Jeter
7. Berra



wow.. you put rivera and jeter ahead of reggie, windfield, rizzuto, b williams, whitey ford???
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« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2014, 04:05:33 PM »


wow.. you put rivera and jeter ahead of reggie, windfield, rizzuto, b williams, whitey ford???

Rivera is more iconic than any of those guys.
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« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2014, 04:15:52 PM »


wow.. you put rivera and jeter ahead of reggie, windfield, rizzuto, b williams, whitey ford???
Reggie and Winfield played for a handful of teams each.

Bernie was a very good Yankee, but both Rivera and Jeter meant more to the team.

You could argue about Rizzuto and Ford being in the Yankees top ten.

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« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2014, 11:35:12 AM »

He's probably the last guy who will get one of these for a while.

How 'bout them O's?

Yeah...it's crazy. The team had 17 consecutive losing season up until 2 years ago. They are coasting into the playoffs on a losing streak which is a little unsettling. Not having Chris Davis' bat in the lineup for the playoffs is unsettling as well.
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« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2014, 12:50:15 PM »

He is a first time HOFer easily. Great role model. By all accounts, a great man.

He does not make my top 5 Yankees though.

My top 5 Yankees:

1. Ruth
2. Gehrig
3. Dimaggio
4. Mantle
5. Rivera
6. Jeter
7. Berra

how about 1. ruth .   2. gehrig/    3. berra.     4.   mantle.  5.dimaggio      6. jeter.    7. whitey ford.      8.   m. rivera.   9. elston howard  10. ron guidry.
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« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2014, 12:54:43 PM »

by the way click on baseball reference .com  go on the team sites yankees. it has the top 20 listed for war which is an advanced stat denoting a players true worth now days. ruth, gehrig mantle....... number 9= m rivera... numbers don't lie...
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« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2014, 01:15:36 PM »

by the way click on baseball reference .com  go on the team sites yankees. it has the top 20 listed for war which is an advanced stat denoting a players true worth now days. ruth, gehrig mantle....... number 9= m rivera... numbers don't lie...

I don't think it's fair to use WAR to compare every day players to relief pitchers.

Top relievers tend to get the same WAR scores as average ballplayers.

In addition, there are severe variances on the defensive side of the WAR coin, so I have no faith in those numbers being attributed to players who played before the stat even exisited.
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« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2014, 02:37:03 PM »

there's a good read in the new espn about jeter definitely worth a read.


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« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2014, 04:03:40 PM »

there's a good read in the new espn about jeter definitely worth a read.

Great cover.
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« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2014, 12:07:34 PM »

I don't think it's fair to use WAR to compare every day players to relief pitchers.

Top relievers tend to get the same WAR scores as average ballplayers.

In addition, there are severe variances on the defensive side of the WAR coin, so I have no faith in those numbers being attributed to players who played before the stat even exisited.
it's imprecise but pretty close to a players value....


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« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2014, 12:09:36 PM »

it's imprecise but pretty close to a players value....

I get you on that, I'm just not sold on it being fair for relievers, or comfortable with the limitations surrounding defensive metrics in general, let alone applying those metrics to games that took place almost 100 years before the stat was invented.

Nowadays, UZR has the benefit of having every ball hit tracked and recorded, as well as the players subsequent involvement in the play.  Even with that, the inventor of the stat claims it's not really accurate with sample sizes under three years.   I don't know how that part of WAR gets tracked for games that aren't even filmed.
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« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2014, 12:10:14 PM »

it's imprecise but pretty close to a players value....
biggest shock is willie randolf being 11 th on this list....
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« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2014, 12:29:54 PM »

biggest shock is willie randolf being 11 th on this list....

It is, but he did play 17 years, so that helps.
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