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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2015, 09:42:48 PM »

How is he not ? He was practically Mr. Consistent for many, many, MANY years. And, on top of that, he literally had NO flaws.
He has plenty of flaws mostly personality related but also poor quad sweep, weak delts, narrow clavicles and zero glute separation.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2015, 09:57:35 PM »
But that MHP pic of Vic is just insane. What shape he had, a few flaws but everyone does...
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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2015, 01:43:07 AM »
Actually I'm not even sure if he was robbed in 2007, Jay was very bad that year but still crushed him in terms of size and thickness.

I means srsly, that's like a different weight class... ::)















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It was close.
 Jay definitely the winner.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2015, 01:43:14 AM »
He has plenty of flaws mostly personality related but also poor quad sweep, weak delts, narrow clavicles and zero glute separation.


.............. right .......... might want to re-look at some of Shawn's pics ..........

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2015, 01:51:17 AM »
Actually I'm not even sure if he was robbed in 2007, Jay was very bad that year but still crushed him in terms of size and thickness.

I means srsly, that's like a different weight class... ::)

Jay has him.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2015, 02:45:46 AM »
his muscle grill failed

he has been in jail

never was a top bodybuilder

persona: so-so and not so likeable

so legend? no

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2015, 05:08:27 AM »
Jay is definitely taking him from the back.
Yeah, Jay is showing everybody how to have a wrinkly back.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2015, 05:45:22 AM »
Yeah, Jay is showing everybody how to have a wrinkly back.


His Glutes had wrinkles too

Jay was big.... But Jay was way off that year.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2015, 05:51:07 AM »
If you had to rank VM where would you put him? If we were talking just 2000's, I could see top 15, maybe low top 10. All time though, he'd be somewhere in the #25 - 50 range just going off the top of my head.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2015, 06:20:22 AM »

.............. right .......... might want to re-look at some of Shawn's pics ..........
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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2015, 06:23:55 AM »
He has plenty of flaws mostly personality related but also poor quad sweep, weak delts, narrow clavicles and zero glute separation.

Shawn was able to piss off Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler, Ect...

Even mellow guys like Levrone and Vince Taylor had not so great things to say about Shawn.


That alone made him a legend

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2015, 07:51:12 AM »
Victor is an old buddy.

Whether he is a legend or not depends on what constitutes a legend within an activity that requires no direct competition between two individuals and instead relies on the subjective opinion of a set of judges. This isn't like one of your many professional sports where two entities compete and you usually have a clear-cut winner (think Olympic swimming, runners, boxing, baseball, soccer, football, basketball etc).

When you define legend, at least based off of what you find on the internet, you get this:

an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field

The only individual within the bodybuilding industry that could be said to be "extremely" famous is probably Arnold Schwarzenegger. When you consider all the other Mr. Olympia winners, outside of the small bodybuilding cult, no one really knows who they are. You can go anywhere in the world and odds are that someone will always recognize Arnold, but good luck asking some random kid in the middle of Russia who the fuck Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Dexter Jackson or Phil Heath is.

With that same token, if you were to look at it through a much smaller scope, Victor is famous and notorious within the bodybuilding industry, not for the right reasons, but certainly fits the bill for both.

He got arrested and caused a few ripples through the industry (This covers the notorious aspect, since it would satisfy the definition of notorious - widely and unfavorably known).

In terms of competitions, he won these (grants him some level of fame, particularly within this small industry, as famous defined means - known or recognized by very many people):

2000 NPC Nationals, Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
2003 IFBB Night of Champions, 1st
2004 IFBB GNC Show of Strength Pro Championship, 1st
2007 IFBB Arnold Classic, 1st
2011 IFBB Arnold Classic Madrid, 1st
2013 IFBB Toronto Pro Supershow, 1st
2014 IFBB Wings Of Strength PBW Tampa Pro, 1st

You make the call. I think the only legend in professional bodybuilding is Arnold.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2015, 08:23:25 AM »
Is Victor Martinez considered a "legend" in the sport of bodybuilding? The bodybuilding show that he is representing is called "Legends." Or is he just a "legend" in his own mind? It will take place on August 22nd in NYC (Lehman College).

From July 25th to today, hes made about 22-25 posts about this "legends" competition. Why does he so desperately need people to attend?  ??? ???


Legend in prison.  ???
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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2015, 02:09:33 PM »
He's been featured on Iceman1981's page, so he MUST be a legend.

http://www.legendsofbodybuilding.com/2012/04/victor-martinez-bfto-2005-victor-has.html

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2015, 02:28:27 PM »
Yeah, Jay is showing everybody how to have a wrinkly back.

 ::) ::) ::)

Hes making Vics back looks like it belongs on an amateur. Totally destroying his back.
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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2015, 08:31:39 PM »
The "Real" 2007 Mr. Olympia, The 2007 Arnold Classic champ. I would say he's a legend.

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2015, 08:32:47 PM »

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Re: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!!
« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2015, 10:14:37 PM »
Tonight was the Legends Show! I wonder how it went!
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