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« on: October 25, 2012, 03:41:37 AM »

I say let em go down fighting.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 05:42:33 AM »

WEST>>>>>>>>>>>>bird
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 06:23:50 AM »

too right, the last stand has been screened and been well received and so has the tomb with both sly and arnold, here is a couple:

I don't know where to start, but.....going into this film I didn't really know what to expect, and lets just say it's not at all what I thought I'd get from a Stallone or Arnold film, and I mean that in a good way.

This is an awesome movie. Let's get that out of the way first. You will not be disappointed. Does it have problems? Yes, but much of it can be fixed in post-production. As it stands, this is a very good film and with the right tweaking, could be a great film. The audience I saw it with, ate this film up. Lots of laughs, applause,etc. Arnie killed it. I think Sly will make many new fans with this movie. His persona has never been as accessible as Arnold's but with this movie, he will crossover to the non-action genre fanbase finally. He's very likeable in this which helps considerably. Younger audiences have never seen him play a character like this.




This film is not an 80's throwback though there are some subtle nods to it. Do not go into it expecting an 80's nostalgia movie like Expendables or Tango and Cash. There are some buddy elements like "Tango and Cash", but for the most part this is a SERIOUS modern action thriller. As "Imthegame" has pointed out before, both stars need to take roles that are suited for their age and adapt to the way modern action films are being made....Arnold has already heeded that message but I am happy to say, Sly has finally acknowledged this. Ray Breslin is Sly pulling a Liam Neeson/Harrison Ford and essaying an everyman in a more convincing way than he has ever done. While I never bought into his attempts with Gabe Walker or Kit Latura in Cliffhanger and Daylight, this time he pulls it off.

This is not a balls to the wall action movie like Rambo or stunt extravaganza like Cliffhanger. It's more of a thriller and spends much of its runtime inside of the prison. There are fisticuffs, some gunplay and an action setpiece, but it is first and foremost a thriller. The less you know about the story, the better so I won't linger too much on it. All you need to know is that this movie gives Arnie and Sly the movie they deserve. It's not Face/OFF, but it's the next best thing given their age. Completely unexpected and a surprise with the script and roles of Arnie and Sly. People will be pleasantly surprised and it bodes well for Arnie and Sly segueing outside of the action genre (Sly especially).


Sly is great. His best role since Freddy Heflin. There is some substance to this role and he delivers. Those of you who wanted more dramatic elements and something more than a cartoon character from Sly, you have your wish. This role should lead to much better films in the future. Unlike Cop Land, he definitively proves in The Tomb that he can handle a dramatic role with ease and make it memorable. Arnold is back. I haven't said much about him only because I don't want to spoil his character. He's a blast and has all the wit and fun of Harry Tasker mixed with the cleverness and resourceful nature of Dutch Schaeffer. You don't have to worry about any of the stiffness in his acting/dialogue delivery that we saw in Ex2, he's worked out the kinks and delivers here. Unlike Collateral Damage, Arnie successfully pulls off his own version of the "everyman" like Sly.Supporting cast are all uniformly good. 50 cent is perfectly serviceable here and is actually quite funny believe it or not. He was well received by the audience.

Length is 2 hrs and the movie is most definitively rated R. It feels like a complete film unlike Sly's last 4-5 movies...and I can't see this being edited to a pg-13. If they do, I think it will lose much of it's edge. There is some heavy language in this movie and it feels refreshing to hear Sly and Arnold curse like normal human beings again in a film. They both deliver with gusto, particularly Arnie.



Temp score should be replaced with a more exciting score. Music is vital for a thriller and while the temp score was fine, a good score would help this movie considerably. Editing could be tweaked a bit more, particularly towards the end which is a little anti-climatic. It just needs something more as the final set piece is cool but not quite as impressive as what you'd expect from these guys. It's a minor nitpick but hopefully they figure out a way to pace that ending better. This is a first screening so there is time to fix this.So in conclusion, this is a very good movie and hopefully it will be turned into a great film with a little bit of tweaking. All the elements are there to make this one memorable.Go into this expecting something along the lines of say The Italian Job meets Prison Break.


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1st most powerful thing that hit me. If i only had one (1) statement to make about The Tomb is this;

Arnold Schwarzenegger & Sylvester Stallone have wanted to work together and along side each other for a very very long time. They made sure every mili-second counted and they are bringing it to their fans on a silver platter.

I was completely surprised at the solid and believable chemistry (tho chemistry is wayy wayy too over used word) it is as real as it gets. They wanted it to come off believable as the characters are meeting each other for the very first time, and you not think of they're real life relationship, and they HIT it with a JACKPOT.

they didn't get this chance with The Expendables as much because they are appearances with characters Barney and Trench that ALREADY had a history together before we meet them. it is so so cool to see Ray's and Rottmeyer's relationship develop. The acting alone, together will blow people away. it is as strong and or better..than the action.

I read Sonny's review. I agree with the just of it. He's made valid points , especially with the material that the actors were given for the first time in their career's to do this kind of dialogue and act in a story such as this. What i slightly disagree with Sonny...is that i felt JIM CAVIEZEL delivered more ...where *i think* Sonny Crockett felt he was limited. I surely feel, as i told a friend of mine that runs another site for fans of the actor involved, that Caviezel's portrayal as the warden will go down as one of the most original , meanest, tho with his own sense of charm, villainous warden's the screen has ever seen.

Every baddie villian has his little side thing he does, (example the main bad guy in RAMBO III, has a chess game in front of him looked like he never played, at the most awful-ist boring room, any main villain could have.) so i looked at The Tomb's Warden's pass time and thought "hmmm, what ?" but other than that...this film shines with Jim Caviezel. I hope alot of critics reflect this.

They packed the house. The screener's involved made clear that this was the very first screening of The Tomb. I heard one mean @$$ assistant (lil more on that later at bottom of post, if u care to read.) say "yeah i seen the first half, it's pretty good" so...i was confused if it actually was the first screening. So now that im talking about a "packed house"...let me tell you that there was cheering thruout the movie, and for most actors involved...which surprised me cuz opening , the audience was rather real real quiet, but most of the loud cheers that lasted with longest chants and applause went to Arnold's character..or the fact that Arnold was doing what he did best and is truly BACK !

there isn't more 'im back" one liners. (other movies did that enough) but the scenes he was given were both electric, funny and at the end, the audience really really went wild !!!

They of course cheered for Stallone. Sly's energy thru out the film...you just wonder how the guy, jumps, runs, fights that d**n much, film after film.

THE "TOMB" is a character itself. And i was surprised that it's exterior didn't seem (now this is for me, for other's it might seem fine, which keeps this review, for the most part, "spoiler free") the outside of The Tomb didn't seem as fierce , to me..as the inside.

Interior, is something shocking and unexpected. you will trip on it. You will freak on it. Though along again what Sonny said...not a futuristic film in the total sci-fi sense but still..high tech.

I love that the film...is long. heck maybe even 2hr & 5min. I dont know for sure. Though i agree like most, im tired of these films that are 90min of Sly's...i felt the beggining of this movie was just a little too long for me. with a "movie" it's gotta move. And the scene was important. but i was ready to understand it and move on. I also feel that every time in a movie, the camera shows a legendary actor, it should have a certain speed on the film or pacing...when STALLONE or ARNOLD is first shown...(cobra was perfect example, same with the clear time you see Arnold in Eraser, slowly walking in...that's fahntahstick (as The Oak would say) wish we had more of that here. And they may still do it that way.

All this screenings almost always NEVER have a title sequence nor ending credits...and that is the same here. Just the title (which had cool sounds, wont tell what they are) and then, the film. at end, it faded out with last scene.

The end of the film, was terrific cap off. Just the kind of tension seat grabbing that Andrew and Mark are just waiting to dig their hands and nails into at final frame !

And as most movies do..if it ends in a wide open scape,...(like many westerns or last 3 Rambo's ended with long wide shot) it should wrap that gift up and put it under the tree for xmas morning. This film goes just a little more story telling...i think is necessary but tell it earlier ya know??? Let's slowly close our eyes on that xmas tree with all the lights filled with presents...!


There is total 100% balls to the walls kick @$$ action. The ending action has more originality than the middle part. But you WILL get your FILL.

The screeners warned (what they always do at a screening, that musical score as well as effects are not finished yet, and sometimes not at all) one scene was almost hilarious because of it, but...i wont tell, because they will make it look TERRIFIC AND AWESOME! Very little cgi would be needed, this again is a pure form film, with strong dramatic story driven tension, and believable past, history and present. Arn & Sly have never worked with this type of material before.

so again, i hope it remains full and at length, they just need to slightly trim the beggining and the very very tail end, wrap it up like they had it.

I can NOT emphasize enough...how well Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger acted together in these roles, with their co-stars, and shined with each other. They were DEFINITELY MAKING UP, for lost time. And...they did.

Music score sounded like fresh tempo and dramatic, other times...it was from Expendables and some moments sounded close to little close a haunting Jaws sound. but not from that film, just lil similar.

The other co-stars (hmm, i dont want to sound mean) but...it's almost like he was trying to fit Curtis Jackson in cuz of the intended Expendables casting. some hold me accountable for my lil rant here. 50cent can act with right material. i was amazed at what he did in last film, where he's dying of a disease...but here, he doesn't have alot. Plus+ someone with his history, and past roles...we didn't care to see Sly in Oscar, i dont know if 50'ty's fans want to see him in this role. He was too type cast in Righteous Kill.

Needs to be clearer (for me anyway) of where Sam Neil ends up. Though his scenes are also really good.


CONGRATULATIONS to Sly & Arn on a believable, deep appreciative performance of two action icons that prove...yes ! they can make you laugh, make you cheer, and pay close attention to how they heck they're going to end up. They CAN, ACT !



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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 06:28:09 AM »

be crap like the last one  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 06:58:39 AM »


Sly is never too old. Most kids at their 20's look shittier.


One could think he's a real-life badass

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 07:00:31 AM »

too bad his foreams are bigger than his upper arms Cry

wonder what he can bench
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 08:41:34 AM »

Arnold is really starting to show his age. 

Even though his face looks like melted Silly Puddy, Sly is still able to pull it off.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 08:44:05 AM »

Arnold is really starting to show his age.  

Even though his face looks like melted Silly Puddy, Sly is still able to pull it off.

That dude is still lean as shit.

HGH is a helluva a drug amino acid.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 08:45:28 AM »

I like that colored review of The Tomb.

Sounds VERY promising!
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 08:51:34 AM »

Im guessing all the comments are of the tomb Huh Or why are they green and blue?

Swedish director of the tomb! Wink

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 09:52:50 AM »

yea both reviews are of the tomb.
Apparantly arnolds role is badass, he's a villain for the first time since T1 (not counting batman and robin)
a terrorist and prison top dog.
Im guessing all the comments are of the tomb Huh Or why are they green and blue?

Swedish director of the tomb! Wink




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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 09:55:16 AM »

I like that colored review of The Tomb.

Sounds VERY promising!

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2012, 10:40:09 AM »

yea both reviews are of the tomb.
Apparantly arnolds role is badass, he's a villain for the first time since T1 (not counting batman and robin)
a terrorist and prison top dog.

Interesting. That's sounds good to me. He should play gangster!

Not sure he is the main villain ie antagonist of the movie although he plays a criminal.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2012, 10:45:32 AM »

One could think he's a real-life badass



Until you notice he is 5' 6 in lifts.
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2012, 10:49:02 AM »

too bad his foreams are bigger than his upper arms Cry

wonder what he can bench

And yet he's almost twice, your age, and makes you look like a condom pulled out of a prostitutes asshole
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 10:50:59 AM »

And yet he's almost twice, your age, and makes you look like a condom pulled out of a prostitutes asshole



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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 10:54:09 AM »

And yet he's almost twice, your age, and makes you look like a condom pulled out of a prostitutes asshole



Wait!! he still needs to post a pic of Will Brink!!!
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 10:55:39 AM »

Sly looks a lot younger than his age, but I don't even want to imagine the amount of money he's spent on it.

Arnold looks his a typical man in his 60s. He aged rapidly after becoming governor, but that's the price he willingly paid to attain what he always wanted in life, absolute power.

Bruce just looks like shit a twink.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 11:07:46 AM »

Sly looks a lot younger than his age, but I don't even want to imagine the amount of money he's spent on it.

Arnold looks his a typical man in his 60s. He aged rapidly after becoming governor, but that's the price he willingly paid to attain what he always wanted in life, absolute power.

Bruce just looks like shit.

not enough bulging muscles and popping veins for your taste Huh?
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 11:12:57 AM »

I'd like to see Arnold in a role similiar role to what Sly did years ago in the movie Copland. Less tough guy, more depth.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 11:15:57 AM »

Bullet to the Head looks bad ass and Stallone get shredded for the role, the trailers out on Youtube, just don't know how to post vids.


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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 11:16:53 AM »

I'd like to see Arnold in a role similiar role to what Sly did years ago in the movie Copland. Less tough guy, more depth.

An extremely underrated film. Stallone gave a fine performance.

Arnold could never do it, though.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 11:18:38 AM »

I'd like to see Arnold in a role similiar role to what Sly did years ago in the movie Copland. Less tough guy, more depth.

lulz !
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 12:23:11 PM »

I like all the old school action stars bar steven I'm a prick seagal who has mutated into a baby hippo.
Arnold sly, van damme, all are capable of putting out better action movies than todays twinks.
Come on though, sly hasn't aged the best, he has had his face fiddled beyond belief, it's been pulled back so far his eyebrows are permanently surprised it even looks like he's had collagen in his lips and he has a clear scar along his hairline. Arnold has aged better, lined but chiselled and unlike sly he hasn't suffered the old man syndrome of much bigger nose and ears.
Van Damme is telling his years of coke abuse through his face but keeps in great shape.


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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 12:48:12 PM »

And what part of Stallone is real?

hair, face, physique?

What's he look like without the meds?

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