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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2012, 08:24:58 AM »
First of mal it was a study done on conservatives and the study was not overall who gives more where % of the population would play a role but on average who gives more



and First off.. Any way you slice it... if the Majority of the population is Christian, on Average.. Christians would give more.. what are we talking about over here..
thats like saying "in Iraq, Muslims give more than any other group on average"......no shit. Its a muslim society that offers more upward mobility for those who are part of that society than not soely by virtue of the number of muslims in that society.
"First of all".....lol

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2012, 08:26:03 AM »
Dario, you're the best.


Do you think Jesus supported govt determining what was right and wrong gare? Who to help and who not to help?

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2012, 08:26:46 AM »
and First off.. Any way you slice it... if the Majority of the population is Christian, on Average.. Christians would give more.. what are we talking about over here..
thats like saying "in Iraq, Muslims give more than any other group on average"......no shit. Its a muslim society that offers more upward mobility for those who are part of that society than not soely by virtue of the number of muslims in that society.
"First of all".....lol
Lmfao no sir that's why you take the average!!!

Aren't you in med school?

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2012, 08:28:33 AM »
Do you think Jesus supported govt determining what was right and wrong gare? Who to help and who not to help?

I think Jesus would preach personal responsibility verses government. It would be the christians mandate to cloth the poor, feed the hungry and give aid to the sick.. it would be the poor's responsibility to do their best to make a living. I doubt Jesus would support lazy people.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2012, 08:29:08 AM »
American christians are the best!

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2012, 08:29:19 AM »
I think Jesus would preach personal responsibility verses government. It would be the christians mandate to cloth the poor, feed the hungry and give aid to the sick.. it would be the poor's responsibility to do their best to make a living. I doubt Jesus would support lazy people.

Oh, and he wouldn't advocate abortion, but he would forgive those who did.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2012, 08:32:23 AM »
Lmfao no sir that's why you take the average!!!

Aren't you in med school?

Ok I understand that when you say Average youre saying Christians vs say Hindu group. In a "Christian society" its easier, to have the resources (jobs, education housing) etc. Its set up for christians to do better because we are a christian society. And it will be easier for them to give as a group...
Do you get what im saying...

Now if you want to get on the insulting shit (which i was trying to avoid).. I would like to see the study you site that says Christians give more on average.
Ill take a gander at it

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2012, 08:36:54 AM »
Ok I understand that when you say Average youre saying Christians vs say Hindu group. In a "Christian society" its easier, to have the resources (jobs, education housing) etc. Its set up for christians to do better because we are a christian society. And it will be easier for them to give as a group...
Do you get what im saying...

Now if you want to get on the insulting shit (which i was trying to avoid).. I would like to see the study you site that says Christians give more on average.
Ill take a gander at it

You can't build mega churches that cost 10's of millions of dollars if you ain't giving...  ;)

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2012, 08:39:08 AM »
Ok I understand that when you say Average youre saying Christians vs say Hindu group. In a "Christian society" its easier, to have the resources (jobs, education housing) etc. Its set up for christians to do better because we are a christian society. And it will be easier for them to give as a group...
Do you get what im saying...

Now if you want to get on the insulting shit (which i was trying to avoid).. I would like to see the study you site that says Christians give more on average.
Ill take a gander at it
It's not his fault.

The devil's got a hold of him.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2012, 08:39:31 AM »
You can't build mega churches that cost 10's of millions of dollars if you ain't giving...  ;)


I just dont understand where the disconnect is right now... like...this is based on pure math.. like wtf

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2012, 08:40:32 AM »
It's not his fault.

The devil's got a hold of him.




im like literally fustrated over here than an adult cant grasp this.. like seriously. Im perplexed over here.. WTF its not that hard..

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2012, 08:45:09 AM »
Ok I understand that when you say Average youre saying Christians vs say Hindu group. In a "Christian society" its easier, to have the resources (jobs, education housing) etc. Its set up for christians to do better because we are a christian society. And it will be easier for them to give as a group...
Do you get what im saying...

Now if you want to get on the insulting shit (which i was trying to avoid).. I would like to see the study you site that says Christians give more on average.
Ill take a gander at it
Lol i get what your saying now bc its the first time youve said it. so now out society is biased against non Christians eh?

Lmfao, where did I say Christians give more I said the study show conservatives give more and Christians tend to be conservative!!!

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2012, 08:46:09 AM »
Lol i get what your saying now bc its the first time youve said it. so now out society is biased against non Christians eh?

Lmfao, where did I say Christians give more I said the study show conservatives give more and Christians tend to be conservative!!!
Be honest and cut the crap.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2012, 08:48:21 AM »
Lol i get what your saying now bc its the first time youve said it. so now out society is biased against non Christians eh?

Lmfao, where did I say Christians give more I said the study show conservatives give more and Christians tend to be conservative!!!


Dude no one said its AGAINST non christians. But based on our societial make up....its overwhelming Christian. So...like where is the issue right now.

ok seriously im not sure what more i can say about it. I wasnt trying to get to this.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2012, 08:50:29 AM »
Ok I understand that when you say Average youre saying Christians vs say Hindu group. In a "Christian society" its easier, to have the resources (jobs, education housing) etc. Its set up for christians to do better because we are a christian society. And it will be easier for them to give as a group...
Do you get what im saying...

Now if you want to get on the insulting shit (which i was trying to avoid).. I would like to see the study you site that says Christians give more on average.
Ill take a gander at it
Go back and re-read conservatives of which Christians tend to be give more then liberals

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2012, 08:51:49 AM »
Go back and re-read conservatives of which Christians tend to be give more then liberals

ok.. you got it bro..you won

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2012, 09:01:50 AM »

Dude no one said its AGAINST non christians. But based on our societial make up....its overwhelming Christian. So...like where is the issue right now.

ok seriously im not sure what more i can say about it. I wasnt trying to get to this.
The issue is you keep mentioning populations size trying to say that skews the average.

Averages take away the bias do to sampling size i.e Population!!!

So your original argument hold no water mal.

Then you changed it saying that bc our society favors Christians they have more opportunity. Please cite the sources you have to back up this claim.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2012, 09:28:23 AM »
Christians give to other Christians.

Was that the teaching of Jesus?

I wasn't aware that he put qualifiers on it.

Actually, were there Christians at the time of Jesus?



garebear, here are a few Christian charities that you'd probably approve of:

www.blessing.org
Blessings International heals the hurting globally and locally by providing life-saving pharmaceuticals, vitamins and medical supplies to medical mission teams, clinics and hospitals; B.I. builds healthy communities by enabling medical professionals and volunteers to effectively treat the sick and victims of endemic medical problems, outbreaks of disease or overwhelming disasters; and B.I. works to transform lives by helping Christians actively demonstrate the love and compassion of Jesus Christ.

www.childmed.org
Children’s Medical Ministries (CMM) is a compassionate humanitarian service organization that has over 700 volunteer health care professionals committed to serving the indigent and oppressed children and their families in the National Capital/Baltimore areas, seven states, and in 30 overseas countries. We provide food, shelter, clothes, medicine, wheelchairs, and healthcare and dental programs.
CMM was founded by Bill and Erma Collins in 1988, as a nonprofit, nondenominational, all volunteer ministry
predicated on the following concepts:
It shouldn’t hurt to be a child.
The essence of compassion is helping others become self-reliant.
Every child has a right to know they are loved.
Restoring human dignity for the disabled.

www.chfus.org
Food Paks: For some, a knock at the door can transform despair to hope. Because of the relationships it helps build, a CHF Food Pak is more than just a box of food.
Mercy Networks: Our Mercy Networks are an efficient way to
serve the needy in poor communities, villages, and slums
in the U.S. and abroad.
Disaster Relief: When the earthquake hit Haiti, CHF was there. And when disaster strikes, like the recent tragedy in Japan, CHF responds quickly.
Orphan Care: Lost children find love and care through CHF's programs providing food, nutritional supplements, medical care, and the funding of building projects.
School Supplies: Just a few simple learning tools like paper, pens, pencils and crayons can mean a brighter future for an underprivileged child.
Toy Distribution: When a parent can't, CHF gives new toys to needy
children. It’s our way to show love and bring joy to the precious little ones we serve.

www.freewheelchairmissio n.org
Founded in 2001, Free Wheelchair Mission is an international nonprofit organization dedicated to providing wheelchairs for the impoverished disabled in developing nations.
Headquartered in Irvine, California, FWM works around the world in partnership with a vast network of humanitarian, faith-based and government organizations, sending wheelchairs to hundreds of thousands of disabled people, providing not only the gift of mobility, but of dignity, independence, and hope.
 
There are many more you'd probably approve of as well, some providing clean water and disaster relief like Compassion International and Samaritan's Purse. 


 
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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2012, 09:52:33 AM »
The issue is you keep mentioning populations size trying to say that skews the average.

Averages take away the bias do to sampling size i.e Population!!!

So your original argument hold no water mal.

Then you changed it saying that bc our society favors Christians they have more opportunity. Please cite the sources you have to back up this claim.

Cool..Just show me your study and ill take a look

and i dont have any sources to back up the claim that christians have it better in a christian society. I thought it was a given

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2012, 10:03:43 AM »
Since the thread is whether Jesus would get votes...

Why would any conservative vote for someone :

Who is a bastard son born out of wedlock?
Unmarried and suspected queer for spending all his time with other men washing their feet.
Unemployed.
No children or family structure evident.
His father was a great abortion specialist who performed thousands of abortions.
His father was also found guilty of killing his children.


I would wager to say that even Herman Cain would garner more votes than Jesus.

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2012, 10:16:16 AM »
Since the thread is whether Jesus would get votes...

Why would any conservative vote for someone :

Who is a bastard son born out of wedlock?
Unmarried and suspected queer for spending all his time with other men washing their feet.
Unemployed.
No children or family structure evident.
His father was a great abortion specialist who performed thousands of abortions.
His father was also found guilty of killing his children.


I would wager to say that even Herman Cain would garner more votes than Jesus.


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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2012, 10:40:10 AM »
This thread is garbage.... We've reached new lows....



Hope this place normalizes after the election.  :-X

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2012, 10:56:07 AM »
This thread is garbage.... We've reached new lows....



Hope this place normalizes after the election.  :-X

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #98 on: October 26, 2012, 11:00:07 AM »
Cool..Just show me your study and ill take a look

and i dont have any sources to back up the claim that christians have it better in a christian society. I thought it was a given

At work at the moment but you can do a quick google search and find it or search on here as its been posted numerous times before. If you can't find it ill post it later as when I find time to educate you when I'm not studying to educate myself.

No sir it's not a given at all as a matter of fact your the first person I've ever heard that the US is biased against non Christians in terms of jobs, education, income etc.

I doubt there is any data that backs up your wild claim

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Re: Would American Christians vote for Jesus?
« Reply #99 on: October 26, 2012, 11:02:05 AM »
At work at the moment but you can do a quick google search and find it or search on here as its been posted numerous times before. If you can't find it ill post it later as when I find time to educate you when I'm not studying to educate myself.

No sir it's not a given at all as a matter of fact your the first person I've ever heard that the US is biased against non Christians in terms of jobs, education, income etc.

I doubt there is any data that backs up your wild claim

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