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« Reply #1125 on: February 26, 2013, 02:00:48 PM »

hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....
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« Reply #1126 on: February 26, 2013, 09:35:45 PM »

hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....

I was thinking that the pain is not from my sciatica, but the tendon that is somehow inflamed. Anyway, I have continued to stretch it throughout the day, which seems to be helping. My range of motion has actually improved somewhat. In a few days I will attempt toe touches. Considering the length of my arms, that should not be too big a feat.  Smiley

When I was having sciatica issues, the pain was very different, almost like a Charlie horse and in my hamstring not in the tendons. It would come on when I sat for too long a time, like when driving. This bothers me when I am moving about and not when I am sitting. As I mentioned stair climbing or descending is the most aggravating. 
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« Reply #1127 on: February 27, 2013, 05:47:53 AM »

shoulders will get blasted today:
Warm up with Bastards( i will put a pic up) no ab training as my midsection is worked well with these.

Giant sets

Seated DB press 3x10
seated side raises 3x10
seated bent over laterals 3x10
standing nieder press with barbell 3x10-15 (works well also with a barbell plate in your hands) every serious martial artist or boxer should do these.


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« Reply #1128 on: February 27, 2013, 01:43:59 PM »

Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
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« Reply #1129 on: February 27, 2013, 01:47:15 PM »

I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
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« Reply #1130 on: February 27, 2013, 01:49:40 PM »

I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
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« Reply #1131 on: February 27, 2013, 01:56:58 PM »

Guys she is on my Facebook.. gonna ask her. infact you guys should be on mine too!! Donald Smith Celle Germany.
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« Reply #1132 on: February 27, 2013, 01:57:40 PM »

I happened to read article in the paper today which I found very interesting. It tells about the Elder Wisdom Circle, http://www.elderwisdomcircle.org/ where seniors offer sage advice. I am not sure how "sage" my advice is, but I am thinking of looking into joining this group. Maybe others can learn from my mistakes and successes in life. Michael Heisler, the gentleman interviewed in the article says, "I'm not particularly smart, but I've made a lot of mistakes."  The seems a lot like me. Here is a link to the article: http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2013/02/through_elder_wisdom_circle_po.html
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« Reply #1133 on: February 27, 2013, 02:00:03 PM »

Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
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« Reply #1134 on: February 27, 2013, 02:02:17 PM »

FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...
yeah.. i am on there and just keep in touch with my scottish friends and a few english guys ...lol
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« Reply #1135 on: February 27, 2013, 02:06:42 PM »

you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
COLITIS IS TOUGH,,,MY BROTHER IN LAW IS RECOVERING FROM COLITIS/CANCER SURGERY OK,,BOTH ILLNESS'S RELIEVED ,HE HAS TO WEAR BAG FOR REST OF LIFE THO...THEY REROUTED HIS STOMACH AND CLOSED HIS REAR END FOR GOOD,,,
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« Reply #1136 on: February 27, 2013, 02:09:15 PM »

FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...

My wife has no interest in Facebook. I have a Facebook page where my close friends and family who are spread all over the world and I often communicate. I check in at least once most days.
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« Reply #1137 on: February 27, 2013, 02:17:54 PM »

you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?

It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
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« Reply #1138 on: February 27, 2013, 02:26:37 PM »

It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
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« Reply #1139 on: February 27, 2013, 02:34:48 PM »

wrote to karen she is ok.
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« Reply #1140 on: February 27, 2013, 07:22:51 PM »

wrote to karen she is ok.

Good to know. I hope you gave her a good talking to about not letting us know she was simply taking a break. As an old man, one of my "jobs" is to worry about you younger folks. LOL!
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« Reply #1141 on: February 28, 2013, 07:55:02 AM »

BACK
CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF Cry..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

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« Reply #1142 on: February 28, 2013, 08:13:25 AM »

BACK
CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF Cry..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

ABS

yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
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« Reply #1143 on: February 28, 2013, 09:20:43 AM »

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 yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
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I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
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« Reply #1144 on: February 28, 2013, 09:21:16 AM »

HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
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« Reply #1145 on: February 28, 2013, 11:16:33 AM »

HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
sometimes i throw in a days rest when i feel i need it like today. I felt a bit tired today...
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« Reply #1146 on: February 28, 2013, 11:23:38 AM »

I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
yes a full bodyworkout really does tax you fully and in some ways harder than a split routine. I used to do it like you wrote above, one basic move per muscle group. I always found that muscles like my calfes sufferd because i always just gave them a few sets at the end. This is where the split is better because you can pay more attention to detail...
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« Reply #1147 on: February 28, 2013, 04:22:46 PM »

I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
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« Reply #1148 on: February 28, 2013, 08:03:16 PM »

I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
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« Reply #1149 on: March 01, 2013, 06:24:34 AM »

i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
drops sets or Descending sets i never do...maybe thatīs a mistake.. might do them on my leg workout.. maybe even with squats... can get my 2 sons to strip weight of the bar for say 3 drop sets...maybe even just 2 if the intensity is high...in fact Steve you got me thinking here... Grin
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