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« Reply #1900 on: May 16, 2013, 10:46:36 AM »

I have never heard of skin rust, Jay?   Cheesy  Its raining here right now.  Hopefully it washes away some pollen as the pressure in my nose is very uncomfortable.  I think it's going to fine up..can't wait. 

It is a Pacific Northwest condition.... Grin In the winter, if I don't use the tanning bed my skin tone get very sallow.
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« Reply #1901 on: May 16, 2013, 02:29:16 PM »

It is a Pacific Northwest condition.... Grin In the winter, if I don't use the tanning bed my skin tone get very sallow.
Ah okay.  That would never happen here.
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« Reply #1902 on: May 16, 2013, 02:36:55 PM »

I got this guy I have been training around 3 years he has made good progress hence why he keeps coming around for my help. Now I am tired of him but being a nice person overall I am not sure on how to get rid of him he gets on my nerves now. I am not good of getting rid of people unless they piss me off.
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« Reply #1903 on: May 16, 2013, 03:14:15 PM »

I got this guy I have been training around 3 years he has made good progress hence why he keeps coming around for my help. Now I am tired of him but being a nice person overall I am not sure on how to get rid of him he gets on my nerves now. I am not good of getting rid of people unless they piss me off.

Me neither. I find it difficult to let people go because I worry I will hurt their feelings. If you are not getting paid for helping him and doing so feels like an imposition, you could make yourself somehow unavailable to him. If he is paying you and you no longer want him as a client, thus this being just a business relationship, simply tell him that it is time for him to seek out a new trainer.

I sometimes will ask someone for advice on one particular exercise they are doing that I also do, but I think this is a bit different. The question is usually short and sweet, not requiring them to interrupt their workout to advise me. I rarely offer people advice though unless they specifically ask for it. Even then, I qualify my answer by making sure they understand I am not a certified trainer and therefore any advice I give should be taken lightly.

My good friend who I met when I was 18 years old, still lives in California. We have nothing in common although he's a good person.  He never married, has no children and although he is gay, he never managed what I consider a long term relationship with anyone. He is all alone and lonely a lot of the time, although he does do stuff with his friends. My wife and I both think of him kind of like a brother. When he visits we enjoy his time with us for a day or two and that's about it. Writing about him reminds me that I should give him a call to see how he is doing.

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« Reply #1904 on: May 16, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »

Me neither. I find it difficult to let people go because I worry I will hurt their feelings. If you are not getting paid for helping him and doing so feels like an imposition, you could make yourself somehow unavailable to him. If he is paying you and you no longer want him as a client, thus this being just a business relationship, simply tell him that it is time for him to seek out a new trainer.

I sometimes will ask someone for advice on one particular exercise they are doing that I also do, but I think this is a bit different. The question is usually short and sweet, not requiring them to interrupt their workout to advise me. I rarely offer people advice though unless they specifically ask for it. Even then, I qualify my answer by making sure they understand I am not a certified trainer and therefore any advice I give should be taken lightly.

My good friend who I met when I was 18 years old, still lives in California. We have nothing in common although he's a good person.  He never married, has no children and although he is gay, he never managed what I consider a long term relationship with anyone. He is all alone and lonely a lot of the time, although he does do stuff with his friends. My wife and I both think of him kind of like a brother. When he visits we enjoy his time with us for a day or two and that's about it. Writing about him reminds me that I should give him a call to see how he is doing.


He pays me for the workouts but calls me alot about diet and such. Yea the issue is I don't like hurting peoples feelings damn life is hard enough. Yea seems the friend is just a loner at heart but good you still talk to him. I played football in High School out of the blue my quarterback called me and said thanks for all the help playing football. I played offense protected him and defense linebacker both ways. He wants me to come by not sure if will it will stir up too many feelings from the past.
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« Reply #1905 on: May 16, 2013, 06:18:16 PM »

He pays me for the workouts but calls me alot about diet and such. Yea the issue is I don't like hurting peoples feelings damn life is hard enough. Yea seems the friend is just a loner at heart but good you still talk to him. I played football in High School out of the blue my quarterback called me and said thanks for all the help playing football. I played offense protected him and defense linebacker both ways. He wants me to come by not sure if will it will stir up too many feelings from the past.

Hopefully, you and your high school football team member have both matured and changed since those times. Sure, you'll probably spend some time reminiscing about the good ol' days, but this is also an opportunity to see if you have anything in common today.

I had some friends in high school who I lost touch with. I tried finding them via the Internet with no luck. Other high school friends, a few that I hung out with a lot, went on to have really screwed up adult lives and I was the wild one of the bunch! Go figure. Unlike these folks, I was never very interested in drugs. I think that is what ended up making a lot of difference. One friend was so smart, she went straight from high school to UCLA with an English lit major. She got her bachelor's and her master's in four years. She went on to become a heroin addict after school and turned her life to shit. Another really bright guy I hung out with ended up divorced and selling Real Estate in Spokane, WA. And to think, I was the dumb bunny of our little group.
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« Reply #1906 on: May 16, 2013, 06:23:54 PM »

Hopefully, you and your high school football team member have both matured and changed since those times. Sure, you'll probably spend some time reminiscing about the good ol' days, but this is also an opportunity to see if you have anything in common today.

I had some friends in high school who I lost touch with. I tried finding them via the Internet with no luck. Other high school friends, a few that I hung out with a lot, went on to have really screwed up adult lives and I was the wild one of the bunch! Go figure. Unlike these folks, I was never very interested in drugs. I think that is what ended up making a lot of difference. One friend was so smart, she went straight from high school to UCLA with an English lit major. She got her bachelor's and her master's in four years. She went on to become a heroin addict after school and turned her life to shit. Another really bright guy I hung out with ended up divorced and selling Real Estate in Spokane, WA. And to think, I was the dumb bunny of our little group.
What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.
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« Reply #1907 on: May 16, 2013, 06:29:45 PM »

Thursday - Shoulders and Abs:

Smith seated front press, 5X15-4 @ 45 to 135 lbs.
Seated side lateral raises, 4X12-8 @ 10 to 17.5 each
Bodymasters rear lateral raises, 5X12-8 @ 30 to 70 (similar to bent later raises)
Shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 45 to 135 (I used a special contraption designed just for shrugs which I thought had gone missing)
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 77
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25 @ 60
Fast trac, 2X25 @ bodyweight and using three positions
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 70 to 80

I changed up a couple of exercises in this routine because the equipment I normally use was in use and other things just for variety.
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« Reply #1908 on: May 16, 2013, 06:45:54 PM »

What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.

Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.

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« Reply #1909 on: May 16, 2013, 06:56:07 PM »

Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.


Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.
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« Reply #1910 on: May 16, 2013, 07:57:50 PM »

i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,, Smiley

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 Shocked,,,3 plates x30  Cool ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,, Tongue

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,



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« Reply #1911 on: May 16, 2013, 09:57:31 PM »

tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!
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« Reply #1912 on: May 16, 2013, 11:30:15 PM »

Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.

There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  Sad

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.
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« Reply #1913 on: May 17, 2013, 01:20:04 AM »

i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,, Smiley

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 Shocked,,,3 plates x30  Cool ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,, Tongue

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,


you got the abs there steve, nice shape and you are really in shape all year round. I am hitting cardio a bit harder at the momemt, mainly interval training for 30 mins. no training today and i have to work till 11pm in the Gym...maybe i will sneak in a bit here and there... Wink
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« Reply #1914 on: May 17, 2013, 01:55:09 AM »

tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!
stiff arm pulldowns with a rope i will use next time myself... yes get some walking in there.. train for all round fitness. I suppose watching my Father having a massive Heart attack made me think about cardio and general health. still....he who dies fitess still dies...

one other method good for losing fat is circuits.. my favourit is Boxing circuits...

Do 6 times -no stopping
skipping 1 minute
crunches(double crunch)
alternate DB shoulder press x10
Upright rowing(or side raises if hard on shoulder) x10
Nieder press10( standing press from chest like a bench press) all 3 exercises in 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

more emphasis on shoulders and what a boxer needs to hold his hands up for long periods.

another good circuit is ..

round 1
skipping 1 minute
crunches
front Barbell press

round 2
step-ups 1 minute
incline press -ups 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

Round 3
Half sit ups 1 minute
skipping 1 minute
Arm punches with weights 1 minute

The circuit follows the format of a boxing match with 3 minutes of work in each round. Depending on your fitness level you can do as many rounds as you want. 10 rounds will be 30 minutes work, 10 minutes rest  a 40 minute workout that will prove to be very tiring..

so round 1 is 3 exercises rotated after 1 minute ..NO REST BETWEEN EXERCISES ..1 minute rest between rounds... ENJOY THE PAIN  Grin  this burns fat and quick !
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« Reply #1915 on: May 17, 2013, 02:42:23 AM »

Greg plitt great motivation...notice he does lunges like Steve...look like killers... Grin
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« Reply #1916 on: May 17, 2013, 03:15:03 AM »

There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  Sad

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.
It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.
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« Reply #1917 on: May 17, 2013, 03:26:18 AM »

Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.   Embarrassed  Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.
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« Reply #1918 on: May 17, 2013, 03:34:48 AM »

It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.
yes good post...i never had a close relationship with my father either...we all grew up with something but you gotta live life now. I canīt imagine how hard that was for Jay and his daughter.
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« Reply #1919 on: May 17, 2013, 03:58:43 AM »

Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.   Embarrassed  Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.
Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.
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« Reply #1920 on: May 17, 2013, 04:28:03 AM »

Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.

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« Reply #1921 on: May 17, 2013, 04:31:05 AM »

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 
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« Reply #1922 on: May 17, 2013, 04:43:29 AM »

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch.  
That would be nice a password it will not happen though. Yea some good people in this thread you are one of them.
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« Reply #1923 on: May 17, 2013, 05:36:51 AM »

Every time I think about posting a picture I come to my senses. The guys using steroids will say you can't compare to them. Which is true. Never understood a guy who is proud of a temporary steroid physique. Another reason is I could see my picture photo shopped for juvenile comedy.  Lastly anyone can use it for a site like Craig's list falsely representing some anonymous poster. 
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« Reply #1924 on: May 17, 2013, 05:58:00 AM »

If you posted a pic in here, you would get constructive criticism and praise where needed.  We would never rip anyone apart.  It's just the trolls/gimmicks that read and watch this place that you have to be careful of.  Thanks for the nice words Mr Nobody, I think you are a good person as well...as is Donny, Jay and Steve, Oldtimer. 
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