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« Reply #3225 on: August 22, 2013, 12:28:31 PM »

I forget your up north in Jersey right? I am down by Philly.
YEAH.WIFE WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.
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« Reply #3226 on: August 22, 2013, 12:42:53 PM »

YEAH.WIFE WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.

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« Reply #3227 on: August 22, 2013, 07:55:31 PM »

took a cue from k bordner

i do calves 1st on delt day did standing calf raises

delts
fr press smith x4 with drop last set
did k bordners run the rack side delts 30/25/20/15 10 per x2 wicked pump
rear delt machine x3
bent over rear delt raise x2
uprights  pre made curl bar inner grip x3

shrugs front x3 and rear x2 on hammer chest press

forarms reverse curl x3,weighted rope rolls x3
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« Reply #3228 on: August 23, 2013, 08:30:49 PM »

Thought I was going to work delts yesterday but got sidetracked. Instead I spent all afternoon touring the Northwest Natural 2013 Street of Dreams homes, http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/. This is a fun gift I give myself every year since it takes place during my birthday month. I really enjoyed myself and the homes were filled with ideas that I cannot afford to use....but, so what. After 3 and a half hours of walking up and down stairs, my leg was killing me. All I could think of was coming home and stretching out in the recliner with ice on my ankle. So, no delts yesterday.

Today I got with the program and worked chest. It has been a month since my last pec workout. I decided to see if I could do what I did a month ago and I succeeded. -No increases in resistance or the number of sets or reps and yet I felt really good at the end the routine which I knocked off in about an hour. There is no sense in posting the details since they have been posted previously. Tomorrow is quads and calves....well see. The last time I did this routine it knocked me out of the game for over a week.

I see the doctor midweek next week to discuss surgery on my knee. At this point, my feeling is lets just do it. I am not getting better on my own and my knee and leg pain is totally sapping all my energy anyway which is destroying my workout routine. Something needs to change and change quick. I am done with this shit.
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« Reply #3229 on: August 23, 2013, 08:52:44 PM »

Thought I was going to work delts yesterday but got sidetracked. Instead I spent all afternoon touring the Northwest Natural 2013 Street of Dreams homes, http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/. This is a fun gift I give myself every year since it takes place during my birthday month. I really enjoyed myself and the homes were filled with ideas that I cannot afford to use....but, so what. After 3 and a half hours of walking up and down stairs, my leg was killing me. All I could think of was coming home and stretching out in the recliner with ice on my ankle. So, no delts yesterday.

Today I got with the program and worked chest. It has been a month since my last pec workout. I decided to see if I could do what I did a month ago and I succeeded. -No increases in resistance or the number of sets or reps and yet I felt really good at the end the routine which I knocked off in about an hour. There is no sense in posting the details since they have been posted previously. Tomorrow is quads and calves....well see. The last time I did this routine it knocked me out of the game for over a week.

I see the doctor midweek next week to discuss surgery on my knee. At this point, my feeling is lets just do it. I am not getting better on my own and my knee and leg pain is totally sapping all my energy anyway which is destroying my workout routine. Something needs to change and change quick. I am done with this shit.
pulling 4 ya jay....get better
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« Reply #3230 on: August 24, 2013, 06:19:15 AM »

Major shoulder issues again....both...can't sleep.....I guess it's the price of getting old...Can't do dips at all right now.
Arms again...because I felt like it(Friday) 4iu Seros pre-workout.

cable preacher curls 4 sets
rope pushdowns with a pause at the bottom 4 sets
one arm cable preachers 3 sets
dip machine 4 sets
DB curls 3 sets
overhead cable extensions 4 sets
hammer curls 2 sets
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« Reply #3231 on: August 24, 2013, 11:08:18 AM »

Major shoulder issues again....both...can't sleep.....I guess it's the price of getting old...Can't do dips at all right now.
Arms again...because I felt like it(Friday) 4iu Seros pre-workout.

cable preacher curls 4 sets
rope pushdowns with a pause at the bottom 4 sets
one arm cable preachers 3 sets
dip machine 4 sets
DB curls 3 sets
overhead cable extensions 4 sets
hammer curls 2 sets

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.
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« Reply #3232 on: August 24, 2013, 11:29:47 AM »

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.
Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.
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« Reply #3233 on: August 24, 2013, 12:09:06 PM »

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.

Good point....I already tore the left supraspinatus tendon and had that re-attached a few years ago. Of course it's the right one now. Really thought the GH would help. Dips and overhead presses are out for a while. Laterals seem to be fine. Upright rows are out too. 
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« Reply #3234 on: August 24, 2013, 03:22:57 PM »

Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.

Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?
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« Reply #3235 on: August 24, 2013, 03:44:52 PM »

Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?
I Train Dips with Body weight and pull ups too. I have used extra weight but i find superseting Dips with  push ups saves my Joints, Training Dips heavy is not always an answer to muscle growth. Most People cheat and do half reps...i work slow and concentrate. i also like muscle endurance and Speed so i Train for it.
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« Reply #3236 on: August 24, 2013, 07:57:46 PM »

I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick. Undecided
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« Reply #3237 on: August 24, 2013, 08:16:47 PM »

I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick. Undecided
there very effective for me ,but the catch is yrs ago i used some weight added ,now adays a no/no,i see young kids 2 45's strapped and doing some good reps ,props to them,again i do 15/20 2 sets end of chest work out ,amazing pump 4 me.sometimes cable crossovers/dip superset is nice finisher.
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« Reply #3238 on: August 25, 2013, 09:11:53 AM »

Sunday morning Chest....4iu Seros pre-workout

incline DB press 4 sets 45/55/65/75
incline flys 3 sets 35
decline cable flys 3 sets 20 pause at bottom
smith machine flat bench drop sets 225/185/135 3 sets
pec deck ss with machine press 2 sets

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« Reply #3239 on: August 25, 2013, 06:00:26 PM »

sat was a allaround upper body workout from home 2 sets of chest press/pulldowns inner underhand/reg pulldowns/triceps/cable curls on my machine and some lateral side dbell,shrugs with dbell ,,just pumping stuff ,family barbecue ,drank a tad/eat meat  Grin,,

sunday leg brutal

leg press 4 plates /5 pl/6 pl/7 pl,,,reps 12/12/10/10
squat close footed 225/275/315...12/10/10
lunges walking 80 and 90 lbs on back walk and walk....
extensions drops set x3 205 x10 then 195x8,,220 x10/190x8/repeat last set ...wicked pump

hams
stiff legged dlift 135x12/185x19,235x10/255x10
seated leg curls x3

calves seated calf raise 3 45's x15/3.5 plates x12/3.5 and 10 added x10
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« Reply #3240 on: August 26, 2013, 10:46:09 AM »

so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.
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« Reply #3241 on: August 26, 2013, 10:52:45 AM »

so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.
What kind of weight are doing on the DB rows, Donny?
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« Reply #3242 on: August 26, 2013, 11:27:54 AM »

I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.
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« Reply #3243 on: August 26, 2013, 02:37:19 PM »

I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.
Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.
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« Reply #3244 on: August 26, 2013, 02:40:08 PM »

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters Cool...future bber Cheesy....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
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« Reply #3245 on: August 26, 2013, 02:45:29 PM »

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters Cool...future bber Cheesy....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
Congrats man. So many birthdays in August people getting busy in December. My birthday 16th, Sister 22nd, Dad 29th . 7lbs 12.5 is a healthy boy.
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« Reply #3246 on: August 26, 2013, 02:47:07 PM »

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters Cool...future bber Cheesy....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
So happy for you and your wife  Grin CONGRATULATIONS Grin
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« Reply #3247 on: August 26, 2013, 02:49:28 PM »

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters Cool...future bber Cheesy....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Congrats! I have 3 kids and six grandkids!

Back day....4iu Seros pre-workout/250mg Galenika Test/150NPP

Wide grip chins 3 sets
close grip pulldowns 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
seated pulley rows 3 sets
hammer row( single arm) 2 sets
DB row both arms at the same time 2 sets
back machine row with underhand grip 2 sets

total gym time 45 min.
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« Reply #3248 on: August 26, 2013, 03:00:26 PM »

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« Reply #3249 on: August 26, 2013, 03:06:07 PM »

Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.
well after chin ups supinated (not in the same superset, my strength is of course lower) I am not one of the big guys on here and work in my capabilities for muscle growth and endurance.
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