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« Reply #4450 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:37 AM »

Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Smith machine Presses 95X20 115X20 135X15 160X12 185X8 95X25
DB Side Laterals 30X20 35X15 40X10 drop set 40/30/20/10
Front Laterals thumbs up 4X25X10
Rear Delt Cable Crossovers 3X20

5 way laterals side/front/front thumbs up/rear/side swings 50 reps 2 sets
DB Shrugs 4X80X10
Wide grip smith upright rows 2X25
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« Reply #4451 on: February 19, 2014, 10:42:22 AM »

Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Smith machine Presses 95X20 115X20 135X15 160X12 185X8 95X25
DB Side Laterals 30X20 35X15 40X10 drop set 40/30/20/10
Front Laterals thumbs up 4X25X10
Rear Delt Cable Crossovers 3X20

5 way laterals side/front/front thumbs up/rear/side swings 50 reps 2 sets
DB Shrugs 4X80X10
Wide grip smith upright rows 2X25
I DO THE FRONT LATERALS THAT WAY TOO LAST WK I LIKE IT.
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« Reply #4452 on: February 19, 2014, 11:12:34 AM »

Wez - I admire the fact that u publish your "supplement" intake. I wish the muscle mags would have done that in the training articles when I was a kid. It would have spared me a lot of heartache. However, your protocols seem sort of random. Am I wrong? Or is that by design?
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« Reply #4453 on: February 19, 2014, 11:26:51 AM »

Wez - I admire the fact that u publish your "supplement" intake. I wish the muscle mags would have done that in the training articles when I was a kid. It would have spared me a lot of heartache. However, your protocols seem sort of random. Am I wrong? Or is that by design?

The injects are very laid out....I just changed orals if that's what you mean. I got some D-bol that I didn't really want. I usually only run Var or T-bol for orals. But since I got some..........
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« Reply #4454 on: February 19, 2014, 11:27:51 AM »

The injects are very laid out....I just changed orals if that's what you mean. I got some D-bol that I didn't really want. I usually only run Var or T-bol for orals. But since I got some..........

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« Reply #4455 on: February 19, 2014, 11:36:57 AM »

Got it.

My injects are simple.....Test and either 1. Primo 2. EQ 3. Tren/Mast.
I rotate the three.

orals in and out.
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« Reply #4456 on: February 19, 2014, 02:56:05 PM »

i have small Zane like Joints so i am not so thick as say you but i do ok. I am not however a "Hardgainer". I will maybe post a pic in summer.. Wink

A picture would be great! Why wait until summer though?

I have big Neanderthal joints. My wrist are 7 5/8" (same as the circumference of another body-part -- I wish!). Actually my ankles are fairly small, but then so are my calves. This is a good thing or I would have "krankles" like some folks do. I was 195 lbs. this morning, not as low as a couple of days ago when I was 192.5 lbs. but I am getting leaner all the time and so far, I like how it feels and looks. Let's hope that little voice in my head doesn't start telling me I am too skinny like it has in the past. I think for a guy who is just 1/4" shy of 5'11", 185 lbs. might be a good "beach body" weight for me.

Took my wife to the hospital for dialysis today. They did some labs first. It turned out that she didn't need dialysis. Yahoo! We'll see how it goes on Friday when they do labs again. We're hopeful that she is finally on the mend. She's lost over 40 lbs. in the last month since all this happened. Of course there was a time when she actually looked like an overfilled water balloon several weeks ago. Most of the weight loss is water weight. Her ankles are looking almost as skinny as mine now. She is starting to move about the house with more confidence, better balance and surefootedness. Almost two weeks laying around in a hospital bed is hard on the body. It is amazing how quickly one loses muscle tone and strength when they are doing nothing. She'll be starting home physical therapy in the next day or two.  
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« Reply #4457 on: February 19, 2014, 03:04:14 PM »

A picture would be great! Why wait until summer though?

I have big Neanderthal joints. My wrist are 7 5/8" (same as the circumference of another body-part -- I wish!). Actually my ankles are fairly small, but then so are my calves. This is a good thing or I would have "krankles" like some folks do. I was 195 lbs. this morning, not as low as a couple of days ago when I was 192.5 lbs. but I am getting leaner all the time and so far, I like how it feels and looks. Let's hope that little voice in my head doesn't start telling me I am too skinny like it has in the past. I think for a guy who is just 1/4" shy of 5'11", 185 lbs. might be a good "beach body" weight for me.

Took my wife to the hospital for dialysis today. They did some labs first. It turned out that she didn't need dialysis. Yahoo! We'll see how it goes on Friday when they do labs again. We're hopeful that she is finally on the mend. She's lost over 40 lbs. in the last month since all this happened. Of course there was a time when she actually looked like an overfilled water balloon several weeks ago. Most of the weight loss is water weight. Her ankles are looking almost as skinny as mine now. She is starting to move about the house with more confidence, better balance and surefootedness. Almost two weeks laying around in a hospital bed is hard on the body. It is amazing how quickly one loses muscle tone and strength when they are doing nothing. She'll be starting home physical therapy in the next day or two.  
nice jay,,nice to hear from you...
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« Reply #4458 on: February 19, 2014, 03:11:45 PM »

yes Steve. I am doing ok with 5x5 and i am getting stronger. Always been natural and never juiced. i know nothing about it to be Honest. I have never bothered with it. I cant say im against it because i do not understand it and what it does...honest answer. I stick to my Thing and what i know.

From my experience, it is best to consult with a legitimate doctor prior to "juicing" and then follow the doctor's prescribed dosages. Some folks, have low testosterone levels. My first experience with D-bol was when my parents took me too the doctor to find out why I was so thin despite that I ate well. He determined through blood tests that I needed a boost in testosterone levels and prescribed D-bol and once weekly shots of testosterone. This was when I was 16 years old.

Currently I am on testosterone cypionate as prescribed by my urologist for low testosterone. Again, I follow his prescribed dosage. To me some "muscleheads" or musclehead wannabes who take enormous quantities of ABS in excessive dosages are simply asking for trouble. Our bodies are amazingly resilient, but everyone has some breaking point. If bodybuilding and exercise are primarily for good health, it makes no sense for people to ruin their health for the sake of bigger muscles.

The bottom line is this Donny, if you don't need ABS for medical reasons, don't take them. You are a smart man who makes good decisions. It does not surprise me that you have the position you have with regards to juicing.
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« Reply #4459 on: February 20, 2014, 12:06:52 PM »

Arms Day
100mg TrenA/100mg Mast P
pre-workout 25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Cybex One arm preacher curls 3X15
One arm rope push downs 3X15
Concentration curls 3X10X30
Skull Crushers 3X10X95
Smith Drag Curls 3X15
One arm reverse push downs 3X10
High pulley one arm forearm curls 3X10
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« Reply #4460 on: February 20, 2014, 08:20:51 PM »

wed back/bi/abs

did ronnie coleman style rows bar into corner wall,short bar and row got up to 7 25's on bar did 5 sets pyramid weight up
chin ups x3 wide grip added 2 10's extra weight 12/10 reps
reverse hammer pulldown x3 used side grip palms facing in ..
low row chest to pad machine x3 got up to 210 on stack all reps 10 or over
rope pulls to waist  stretch out pull in rope to hips and squeeze x2

bi's
seated curl machine x3 12 plus on reps doing some arm stuff a bit higher reps /wez seems to like it..
inc db curls x3 30/35/35
curl bar premade 70/80/80 10 reps per..

abs
lying crunches legs propped on bench x3 30 reps per
roman chair x2
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« Reply #4461 on: February 20, 2014, 08:31:44 PM »

delts
superset nite

front press 135 x10 with 25 lb side laterals /155x10 with 30 lb side laterals /165 with 30/175 x7 with 30's

cable bent over reverse rear delt with cable up right rows x3 and 3

behind back cable raises x3 with shrugs on hammer lying chest press 3/4/4.5 plates  then 2 sets of 20 45 lb plate per hand shrug

calves 5 sets 3 toe positions sets 20/24 reps per set

forarms ..rollups rope weighted /reverse cable behind back wrist curls/cable curl wrist curls reverse on knees.
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« Reply #4462 on: February 20, 2014, 08:42:10 PM »

real nice workouts Steve......made me want to run to the gym just reading them.
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« Reply #4463 on: February 20, 2014, 09:05:08 PM »

real nice workouts Steve......made me want to run to the gym just reading them.
thanks ...mutual respect  Smiley..
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« Reply #4464 on: February 21, 2014, 01:34:30 AM »

From my experience, it is best to consult with a legitimate doctor prior to "juicing" and then follow the doctor's prescribed dosages. Some folks, have low testosterone levels. My first experience with D-bol was when my parents took me too the doctor to find out why I was so thin despite that I ate well. He determined through blood tests that I needed a boost in testosterone levels and prescribed D-bol and once weekly shots of testosterone. This was when I was 16 years old.

Currently I am on testosterone cypionate as prescribed by my urologist for low testosterone. Again, I follow his prescribed dosage. To me some "muscleheads" or musclehead wannabes who take enormous quantities of ABS in excessive dosages are simply asking for trouble. Our bodies are amazingly resilient, but everyone has some breaking point. If bodybuilding and exercise are primarily for good health, it makes no sense for people to ruin their health for the sake of bigger muscles.

The bottom line is this Donny, if you don't need ABS for medical reasons, don't take them. You are a smart man who makes good decisions. It does not surprise me that you have the position you have with regards to juicing.
thanks Jay... nothing against People who Juice just not for me.
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« Reply #4465 on: February 22, 2014, 04:35:44 PM »

sat worked all day,,did total body extra day 2 sets and 15 reps each

flye x2
chest press side grip x2
reg db chpress x2

back
behind neck pulldown
low row reverse
fr pull down ..all x2

bi
db curls
curl bar
concentration curl all x2
 
tri's
lying db extension
revers pushdown
reg pushdowns

delts 2 sets side/fr dbraise done together side down to front down ect....


feeling/looking well,eating clean and still pulling in some crappy sugar carbs still zero cardio


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« Reply #4466 on: February 23, 2014, 02:30:10 AM »

amazing that you look like that without cardio.. great Genetics. Talking of Cardio i will go running tonight. Last night i did not because Friday i did my 5x5 workout and it really takes 3 days till i fully recover with it. Running a Day later is very taxing and although i am only doing squats or Deadlifts each full Body workout, my quads are F*cked. i could not do 5x5 3 times a week like Reg Park did.
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« Reply #4467 on: February 23, 2014, 06:55:06 AM »

amazing that you look like that without cardio.. great Genetics. Talking of Cardio i will go running tonight. Last night i did not because Friday i did my 5x5 workout and it really takes 3 days till i fully recover with it. Running a Day later is very taxing and although i am only doing squats or Deadlifts each full Body workout, my quads are F*cked. i could not do 5x5 3 times a week like Reg Park did.
cool stuff donny,you like training,all around fitness wise .sometimesi dofeellike i flood toomany pics here,i try to take breaks i will,i when i train at home i pump up and i like to train like 70's shirtless lol,,,so i always grasb camera,i would never/ever do it in the gym lol,,iprogress wise i still can't believe how my delts have popped up in past 2 yrs,,reps/reps/reps i figured it out the heavy shit dosen't work for me on delts ...chest i could do 6 re/8rep sets but even there i been doing drops too..
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« Reply #4468 on: February 23, 2014, 09:18:23 AM »

cool stuff donny,you like training,all around fitness wise .sometimesi dofeellike i flood toomany pics here,i try to take breaks i will,i when i train at home i pump up and i like to train like 70's shirtless lol,,,so i always grasb camera,i would never/ever do it in the gym lol,,iprogress wise i still can't believe how my delts have popped up in past 2 yrs,,reps/reps/reps i figured it out the heavy shit dosen't work for me on delts ...chest i could do 6 re/8rep sets but even there i been doing drops too..
yeah... i just like Training for staying in shape and i am not looking for Detail in every Body part just Lifting and Training it all. I have enjoyed splits too. i know ill never bench 150 kg..like some of the guys on here or lift like you do. Still i enjoy what i do and like to have heart and lung Fitness too. hope my legs are ok for my run later, if not ill power walk and after work tomorrow hit the Bike for an Interval sesh... Wink funny im doing 5x5 and another guy who i work with is doing 10x10 at the Moment.
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« Reply #4469 on: February 23, 2014, 12:01:00 PM »

leg day
pumped quads today little less weight /different leg press

squats 135/225/275/315/365...15/12/12/12/12
leg press lying sled on a weighted stack flat on back/chain driven, older machine x3 12 reps maxxed 240
lunges 50's db walking
extensions x3 205/220/235 12/12/12

hams
seated ham curl 180/195/210/210

calves leg press x4 3 plates/3.5/3.5/3.5 rep 15 -12

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« Reply #4470 on: February 23, 2014, 04:06:32 PM »

Chest and Biceps...both of my in-laws are dying. Was staying down at their hose so trained at a different gym.

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness Pec dek 3X10
Hammer Incline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer Decline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Cable crossovers 1/ 1/4 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press super slow reps 3 sets

Life fitness incline bicep curl 4 sets
Life Fitness preacher one arm curls 4 sets
Hammer concentration curls 3 sets
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« Reply #4471 on: February 23, 2014, 08:34:41 PM »

Chest and Biceps...both of my in-laws are dying. Was staying down at their hose so trained at a different gym.

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness Pec dek 3X10
Hammer Incline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer Decline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Cable crossovers 1/ 1/4 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press super slow reps 3 sets

Life fitness incline bicep curl 4 sets
Life Fitness preacher one arm curls 4 sets
Hammer concentration curls 3 sets
sorry to hear news bro ken..
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« Reply #4472 on: February 24, 2014, 02:14:05 AM »

x2 sorry to hear it... Sad
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« Reply #4473 on: February 24, 2014, 07:09:05 AM »

Thanks guys.....one day at a time.
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« Reply #4474 on: February 24, 2014, 07:11:52 AM »

Thanks guys.....one day at a time.
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