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« Reply #600 on: January 14, 2013, 06:44:51 AM »

really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  Grin


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« Reply #601 on: January 14, 2013, 06:52:11 AM »

really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  Grin

These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.
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« Reply #602 on: January 14, 2013, 06:55:48 AM »

well i did 30 reps on the first exercise for 3 sets and then on the twisting i donīt know i just went to failure for two sets. one rep is left and right.. i just worked till failure. I lost count Grin
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« Reply #603 on: January 14, 2013, 07:01:06 AM »

did these in the Army a lot but i like this book still some good stuff in there::


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« Reply #604 on: January 14, 2013, 07:29:58 AM »

If you want a brillant book Donny, then I suggest this one.  Had it for years and it's one of my favs.  If you love anatomy and want to see it in use when executing exercises then this is the book to get. 

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=GgLGWbv763EC&source=gbs_similarbooks
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« Reply #605 on: January 14, 2013, 07:38:16 AM »

yes....got it ....


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« Reply #606 on: January 14, 2013, 07:40:34 AM »

yes....got it ....
Ah ha Awesome.   Grin 
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« Reply #607 on: January 14, 2013, 07:44:24 AM »

A good book for German speakers, wrote by 2 sport doctors.. used this when i did my Trainer licence..


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« Reply #608 on: January 14, 2013, 03:22:51 PM »

These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.

I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:

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Swelling after Rhinoplasty: Gradual Improvement

The amount of swelling and how long it persists after rhinoplasty depends on several factors such as the surgeon's technique, open versus closed approach, whether the nasal bones were broken, and the number of prior nasal surgeries.

Patients in whom open rhinoplasty techniques were used, cases in which the nasal bones were broken, and a history of one or more previous nasal surgeries often will have more prolonged swelling.

During the first week, most patients will have moderate swelling . Usually, by the end of the second week, much of the bruising and swelling have subsided to the point that it is not obvious to the casual observer that the patient has had surgery.

However, the nose will look swollen or puffy to the patient for 3 to 4 months. It usually takes a full year for the residual swelling to resolve and the final result be apparent.

C. Spencer Cochran, MD

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Swelling 3 weeks after Rhinoplasty is normal

Rhinoplasty swelling occurs both on the outside and inside of the nose. Patients are generally "restaurant ready" and socially acceptable within 2 weeks following surgery. Most swelling after rhinoplasty resolves within a month. The final 20% of swelling takes a much longer time to resolve, up to a year after surgery. Fortunately, this final swelling is usually only evident to the surgeon and patient.

Rhinoplasty swelling varies greatly and is largely based on the areas of the nose treated, surgical approach to the nose (open or closed/endonasal), skin thickness, postoperative care, and your healing ability. The more extensive the surgery, the more you will swell and the longer the swelling will last. The tip of the nose holds onto swelling longer than the other parts of the nose. Open rhinoplasty, where there is an external incision at the base of the nose, swells more and longer than closed/endonasal rhinoplasty. Patients with thicker skin will have more swelling.

Keeping your head elevated, maintaining the nasal splint/cast, ice, arnica montana, and following your plastic surgeon's guideline will help reduce rhinoplasty swelling. Persistant swelling may also be reduced by steroid treatment into the nose. Don't hesitate to speak to your plastic surgeon about any swelling.

Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.
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« Reply #609 on: January 14, 2013, 07:07:21 PM »

My back workout today is:

sternum chins 3x max
barbell rows 4x10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15
DB shrugs 3x 12+
one legged db standing calf raises 3x15-20
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« Reply #610 on: January 14, 2013, 07:37:25 PM »

I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:
 
C. Spencer Cochran, MD
 
Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.

I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 
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« Reply #611 on: January 14, 2013, 08:59:04 PM »

I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 

Surely, you are fine. Like you suggest, the combination of air temperature and you working out is probably exasperating the situation with your nose swelling. It probably isn't the best idea to focus on it anymore than you already are. Worry never fixed anything. Age probably plays some role in the healing process too. As I mentioned, I was only 29 when I had rhinoplasty. My daughter was 34 if I remember correctly. Every person heals differently. I tend to be a fast healer.
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« Reply #612 on: January 14, 2013, 11:25:12 PM »

I think as we get older Prime, that we heal at a slower rate.  But in this case I think that it's perfectly normal what I am experiencing.  Anyway I just got back from gym and I had a good train.  I did legs and I found that I am stronger like I was stronger yesterday in my arms.  I feel good.


Barbell back squats x 4 sets 
SLD's x 4 sets
thigh extensions x 4 sets

Just waiting for the sun to get a bit lower in the sky and I will be going for another brisk walk....60 mins outdoors. 
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« Reply #613 on: January 15, 2013, 04:21:08 AM »

yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day Wink
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« Reply #614 on: January 15, 2013, 04:27:45 AM »

yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day Wink
We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
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« Reply #615 on: January 15, 2013, 05:29:25 AM »

We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
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« Reply #616 on: January 15, 2013, 05:37:44 AM »

i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
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« Reply #617 on: January 15, 2013, 05:39:31 AM »

I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... Wink
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« Reply #618 on: January 15, 2013, 05:41:46 AM »

well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... Wink
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« Reply #619 on: January 15, 2013, 05:48:30 AM »

well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... Wink
DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
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« Reply #620 on: January 15, 2013, 05:52:58 AM »

DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun.  
That was my grumpy mood leaving the gym, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat???  
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country!  
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« Reply #621 on: January 15, 2013, 05:54:42 AM »

Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun. 
That was my grumpy just leaving the gym mood, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat??? 
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country! 
i would not last 2 mins in the heat... Smiley
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« Reply #622 on: January 15, 2013, 05:57:01 AM »

i would not last 2 mins in the heat... Smiley

You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you would want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   Grin
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« Reply #623 on: January 15, 2013, 06:04:22 AM »

You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you wouldn't want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   Grin
respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
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« Reply #624 on: January 15, 2013, 06:11:30 AM »

respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
It's just accepted here.  You get used to living amongst some of the most dangerous creatures in the world.  It becomes the norm and you don't know anything else.
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