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« Reply #2900 on: July 19, 2013, 03:09:21 AM »

I will keep the slow squats in mind. So far what I am doing is working. At this moment I have ZERO knee pain. When I worked legs on Tuesday, none of the movements bothered my knee at all, including some fairly heavy leg presses. I've heard people say the extensions irritate the knee before. Maybe it is how they do them. They don't bother my knee at all regardless of whether I do them one legged or both legs. I have not done them on any other equipment except the Nautilus leg extension which for me minimizes any jerkiness in the movement. Also, I am not using a lot of weight @ max 60 lbs. per leg. I keep the reps pretty high, shooting for the burn in my quads.

What normally has bothered my knee since it started acting up was mowing the lawn....not kidding here. Our front lawn is on a hill and I think there is something about the unevenness that troubles the knee. I did mow the grass yesterday though, with no problems at all.

I am doing machine hack squats, both front facing for quads and reverse for my hams. I am pretty careful on the front facing hacks. Talk about slow squats....I am doing these super slow and with not a ton of resistance either.
I cant do any kind of leg extensions, I messed my knees up playing basketball could jump really high dunk under the goal at 6'2". Slow Back squats and Front squats all I do no knee pain what does that say? It says they are natural movements.
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« Reply #2901 on: July 19, 2013, 07:11:40 AM »

yes i know mate but i have to come into the mature thread Via my Profile and click onto my mails because a fool has blocked me from seeing the Training section on the main menu. i asked Ronald if i am banned and he said no because only he can do this. so conehead can delete,edit but not much more and on other threads and sections here not all mods react like conehead. Freedom of speech.
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« Reply #2902 on: July 19, 2013, 08:58:46 AM »

I cant do any kind of leg extensions, I messed my knees up playing basketball could jump really high dunk under the goal at 6'2". Slow Back squats and Front squats all I do no knee pain what does that say? It says they are natural movements.

You are absolutely right that squats are a very natural movement or position. There was a time when humans didn't have chairs to sit in. It was common then to squat around the fire. Many cultures today still squat down as a way of relaxing rather then standing around. My father-in-law would be in a squat position in front of his aquarium for hours on end. Of course when one adds additional resistance, it does change the dynamic some. And as we all know, good form is of the essence.

My knee pain is caused by a miniscule tear. I have no idea when the tear happened. It could have been decades ago. They don't always cause problems. Mine did only recently. The pain can come and go according to the doctor. Aside from some movement that could further tear it, probably not from lifting at the gym since I am very careful with all lifts to use good form, there is not much that will change it. It will not repair itself. If it becomes problematical, I will discuss orthoscopic surgery with my doctor. As it stands now, with no pain, I am not inclined to worry about it.
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« Reply #2903 on: July 19, 2013, 09:29:03 AM »

Such a whiner for an old guy. Undecided
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well iīm impressed that you are so powerful...get a life freak
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« Reply #2904 on: July 19, 2013, 09:40:58 AM »

ok...you were correct it was the +... ok i was a kunt Grin
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« Reply #2905 on: July 19, 2013, 10:54:47 AM »

this shoulder workout i like....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopKNpsflhY
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« Reply #2906 on: July 19, 2013, 11:10:24 AM »

this shoulder workout i like....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopKNpsflhY
Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?
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« Reply #2907 on: July 19, 2013, 11:20:12 AM »

Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?
not me in the Video and i agree a lot of light sets but itīs still Looks a very intensive workout if done to failure and i like the Format of it. I do more supersets and tri sets and i did have a shoulder Problem.
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« Reply #2908 on: July 19, 2013, 11:26:43 AM »

not me in the Video and i agree a lot of light sets but itīs still Looks a very intensive workout if done to failure and i like the Format of it. I do more supersets and tri sets and i did have a shoulder Problem.
I see if you got a injury, just wondering you seem as a good headed individual.
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« Reply #2909 on: July 19, 2013, 11:30:54 AM »

I see if you got a injury, just wondering you seem as a good headed individual.
yeah sometimes.... Grin i try to pre exhaust my delts in shoulder Training but having said that i do also try to lift heavy(for me) I have always liked the Training effect i get from pre exhaust/supersets/tri sets.
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« Reply #2910 on: July 19, 2013, 11:31:30 AM »

Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?

I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  Grin  
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« Reply #2911 on: July 19, 2013, 11:38:16 AM »

I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  Grin  
well itīs like Bill Pearl always said, leave the Gym with gas in the Tank...very wise words.
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« Reply #2912 on: July 19, 2013, 11:41:07 AM »

shoulders i do warm up more than any Body part. The shoulders are very delicate and recieve enough from incline benches ..even back Training hits them to a degree.
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« Reply #2913 on: July 19, 2013, 11:44:14 AM »

I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  Grin  
I understand as being older more warmup is required. Which back exercises did you do? Yea if you think about it adding 5lbs a month in 24 months you would doing 165 impossible although we always strive to do more.
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« Reply #2914 on: July 19, 2013, 11:44:47 AM »

yeah sometimes.... Grin i try to pre exhaust my delts in shoulder Training but having said that i do also try to lift heavy(for me) I have always liked the Training effect i get from pre exhaust/supersets/tri sets.

I was talking to a young fellow at the gym yesterday about his conditioning. A year or so ago, he was about 216 and now he is 196 lbs. I guessed that he had lost about 20 lbs. and I was right on. He is probably about my height give or take an inch. He looks great and he says he feels great. He said he really enjoys the difference in how he feels when he runs now.

I've noticed that when he is working delts, he really keeps the resistance light. If his boulder shoulders are a result of this, he is doing something very right because the light weights seem to be working.

In contrast there are two fellows who train together who are really huge. One is big and also fat the other is just swole. Without a doubt these fellows are strong. One of them was working his back on the equipment I normally use yesterday. This is probably why I noticed how he preforms the exercises. On each machine he loads 4 or 5 plates on each side and then does a rapid succession of really limited movement exercises. For example, on the Hammer low back row, he move the weight about 6" if that. On some equipment, he needs help getting the weights into position and then again he barely moves them. This is not a one day or one time thing, he an his training partner workout in this manner all the time. I guess it makes one big, but the lack of range of motion cannot be a good thing in the long run.

I am going to stick to full range movements and lighter weights. At my age, I cannot afford to do exercises that are likely to make me less flexible than I already am.
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« Reply #2915 on: July 19, 2013, 11:53:11 AM »

I was talking to a young fellow at the gym yesterday about his conditioning. A year or so ago, he was about 216 and now he is 196 lbs. I guessed that he had lost about 20 lbs. and I was right on. He is probably about my height give or take an inch. He looks great and he says he feels great. He said he really enjoys the difference in how he feels when he runs now.

I've noticed that when he is working delts, he really keeps the resistance light. If his boulder shoulders are a result of this, he is doing something very right because the light weights seem to be working.

In contrast there are two fellows who train together who are really huge. One is big and also fat the other is just swole. Without a doubt these fellows are strong. One of them was working his back on the equipment I normally use yesterday. This is probably why I noticed how he preforms the exercises. On each machine he loads 4 or 5 plates on each side and then does a rapid succession of really limited movement exercises. For example, on the Hammer low back row, he move the weight about 6" if that. On some equipment, he needs help getting the weights into position and then again he barely moves them. This is not a one day or one time thing, he an his training partner workout in this manner all the time. I guess it makes one big, but the lack of range of motion cannot be a good thing in the long run.

I am going to stick to full range movements and lighter weights. At my age, I cannot afford to do exercises that are likely to make me less flexible than I already am.
so correct Jay.. i like to feel light,fast,flexible and strong for my size. I am not a Marathon runner but i like endurance also in my muscle Training. I really mix it up. Full range of Motion is the best way...partials are oK at the end of a hard set..you know what i mean.
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« Reply #2916 on: July 19, 2013, 11:55:48 AM »

this shoulder workout i like....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopKNpsflhY

Not to be critical of young folks, but this fellow looks to be in his 20's. He better be fit at his age.  

Things I noticed when watching the video were that he pauses (rests) at the bottom of the exercise sometimes which relieves the tension and lessens the impact of the movement, IMO. He also exercises at a pretty fast pace. I prefer slower more controlled movements. When doing dumbbell side delt raises for example, if I feel like I am involving my back or jerking at all, like he appears to, I lower the resistance.  
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« Reply #2917 on: July 19, 2013, 11:56:39 AM »

well iīm impressed that you are so powerful...get a life freak
ok...you were correct it was the +... ok i was a kunt Grin
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« Reply #2918 on: July 19, 2013, 11:57:44 AM »

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« Reply #2919 on: July 19, 2013, 12:52:02 PM »

this one is for George
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« Reply #2920 on: July 19, 2013, 08:03:24 PM »

ready for vacation packed,truck packed mostly,going to jersey shore for wk nice condo/pool/block from private beach  Grin,,,bringing some dumbells for light pump/pushups off them for the beach pump  Smiley,,,normal training rest in terms of a break to just swim and play with my little girlies,,,they will get to see normal 40 yr old dads for the most part,not a shaved,rippling'pumped type like there's Tongue,,,,after tommorrow if i don't post ,miss ya guys ,be back  Cool,,,


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« Reply #2921 on: July 19, 2013, 08:09:51 PM »

ready for vacation packed,truck packed mostly,going to jersey shore for wk nice condo/pool/block from private beach  Grin,,,bringing some dumbells for light pump/pushups off them for the beach pump  Smiley,,,normal training rest in terms of a break to just swim and play with my little girlies,,,they will get to see normal 40 yr old dads for the most part,not a shaved,rippling'pumped type like there's Tongue,,,,after tommorrow if i don't post ,miss ya guys ,be back  Cool,,,
Watch out for sharks, have a nice time.
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« Reply #2922 on: July 19, 2013, 08:17:32 PM »

Have a great holiday with your family Steve.   Smiley
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« Reply #2923 on: July 19, 2013, 08:19:05 PM »

Have a great holiday with your family Steve.   Smiley
thanks mrn and karen....karen i might need u too rub some sunblock on me Cheesy,,i'll pm ya details..in case,,,
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« Reply #2924 on: July 19, 2013, 08:20:14 PM »

Not to be morbid, but you have no idea how funny asking my wife for a blow job would be. She is on oxygen 24/7. Granted the air hose is in her nose, but the image of her going down on me is hilarious. Unfortunately, my wife is not healthy enough for sex. We settle for cuddling and giving each other back and foot rubs. Not very sexy, I know, but whatever works and since we are still together after all these years, it would seem we have figured out what works for us. Unlike some people on Getbig, my wife enjoys my daily exhibitionistic tooth brushing and beard trimming in my bright colored underwear. She thinks they are hot....especially the orange pair. Guess I am just a piece of meat to her.... Grin

I am sorry to hear this Jay.  I do recall you posting about your wifes condition.  I guess I just forgot briefly, as my mind skipped ahead of all the fun stuff.  Love is about more than sex.  I am sure you can compromise in the bedroom.  Maybe she just lays back and enjoys while you do all the work?   Grin
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