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« Reply #125 on: November 14, 2012, 04:04:19 PM »

tu Holmes, yes you can.  If someone is living off your dime then all you should be giving them is a about a 100-200 per month in food, a few hundred per year for clothes, and the extra utilities for the year would be just a few hundred as well. That's all you should be owting for. Anything in excess of that and your doing more harm than good by building a habit of dependance and living above their means and disincentivizing productivity. 
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« Reply #126 on: November 14, 2012, 04:04:22 PM »

fake it until you make it

obama is in the dictionary under that!


how about we cut 1T from budget?  all the green energy corps you fund go bust and fire everyone in 6 mo anyhow
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« Reply #127 on: November 14, 2012, 04:08:10 PM »

Grape Ape.    What's the argument then?
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« Reply #128 on: November 14, 2012, 04:11:33 PM »

congress spends the money and does budgets

not the prez

obama again posing

weird

doesn't he get separation of powers?
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« Reply #129 on: November 14, 2012, 04:22:06 PM »

tu Holmes, yes you can.  If someone is living off your dime then all you should be giving them is a about a 100-200 per month in food, a few hundred per year for clothes, and the extra utilities for the year would be just a few hundred as well. That's all you should be owting for. Anything in excess of that and your doing more harm than good by building a habit of dependance and living above their means and disincentivizing productivity. 

You are ridiculous.

The  cost of raising a child is 8500 bucks a year... You have NO idea what you are talking about it.

Go ask your parents how much you cost them.
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« Reply #130 on: November 14, 2012, 04:51:40 PM »

Grape Ape.    What's the argument then?

Re-read the thread it's all right there.    You were making the argument that 250k affords rich houses, multiple luxury cars, extravagant restaurants without context.   Once pressed, you changed the discussion, and even regurgitated a few points that were already discussed.
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« Reply #131 on: November 14, 2012, 08:00:55 PM »

I said you can have a big house a few luxury cars eat all your meals at give restaurants and go on vacations. And you can. one can always find exceptions to a rule, examples of people who life in expensive areasOr haveS family of 30 to support. But then again, those would be choices that person made. You don't have to live in an area with astronomical hoisong costs. You can commute and save money. You don't have to pay that much to support someone else either.
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« Reply #132 on: November 14, 2012, 08:43:24 PM »

I said you can have a big house a few luxury cars eat all your meals at give restaurants and go on vacations. And you can. one can always find exceptions to a rule, examples of people who life in expensive areasOr haveS family of 30 to support. But then again, those would be choices that person made. You don't have to live in an area with astronomical hoisong costs. You can commute and save money. You don't have to pay that much to support someone else either.

Your original statement implied a Robin Leach type life.  That's all.    I agree with you about the choices part completely.
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« Reply #133 on: November 14, 2012, 09:11:26 PM »

i dont know who that is  Grin
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« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2012, 09:12:07 PM »

You are ridiculous.

The  cost of raising a child is 8500 bucks a year... You have NO idea what you are talking about it.

Go ask your parents how much you cost them.
sounds like your spoiling the brat  Tongue 
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« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2012, 11:59:39 PM »

It's not 3% from dollar 1 it's 3% on AGI > 250k

if you have an AGI of 300k you'll pay an extra 3% on the amount over 250k

In this example it's an extra  3% of 50k or a whopping $1500

Beat me to it,exactly right
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« Reply #136 on: November 15, 2012, 12:09:05 AM »

The only problem is that the ones who agree are the ones not paying any taxes and collecting earned income credits.

To call this horseshit flawed logic is doing a disservice to flawed logic the world over.
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« Reply #137 on: November 15, 2012, 07:17:18 AM »

Many Democrats disagree with Obama's number for "wealthy".

Tim Kaine has used the number 750,000.

I believe you will see this 250K number moved upward ...

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