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« on: November 26, 2012, 12:45:31 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/afghanistan-us-troops-2014_n_2191929.html

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 05:56:24 PM »

Unless the president puts Biden in charge of negotiating a status of forces agreement, in which case there will be zero. 

But wait, didn't the president and/or the vp say all troops were out in 2014?
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 05:58:14 PM »

Unless the president puts Biden in charge of negotiating a status of forces agreement, in which case there will be zero. 

But wait, didn't the president and/or the vp say all troops were out in 2014?

I thought so
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 06:21:30 PM »

Lets be honest with our selves:

If OB didn't leave any troops in there people would be criticizing him for leaving it unprotected.


anyone with any sense knows that a force needed to be left there.

Just like in Iraq.

Any repub pres would have been doing it.


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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 06:24:16 PM »

We never, ever, leave countries we invade. We just don't. That's not how we roll. Once we invade you, be prepared to have a US military presence in your country for the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 06:27:03 PM »

Lets be honest with our selves:

If OB didn't leave any troops in there people would be criticizing him for leaving it unprotected.


anyone with any sense knows that a force needed to be left there.

Just like in Iraq.

Any repub pres would have been doing it.


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Obama tried to leave troops in Iraq, but couldn't agree with Iraq on the number of troops, so Iraq asked us to leave.  Then Obama claimed he ended the war in Iraq. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 06:28:54 PM »

Obama tried to leave troops in Iraq, but couldn't agree with Iraq on the number of troops, so Iraq asked us to leave.  Then Obama claimed he ended the war in Iraq.  

so you are saying there are zero troops in Iraq?

Is that a good thing or bad thing?
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 06:37:26 PM »

so you are saying there are zero troops in Iraq?

Is that a good thing or bad thing?




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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 06:47:10 PM »

so you are saying there are zero troops in Iraq?

Is that a good thing or bad thing?

Other than a handful, no there are no troops.  No divisions, brigades, battalions, etc. 

I think we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan for the most part.  What's "bad" is the president lying about ending the war in Iraq. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 07:18:54 PM »

Other than a handful, no there are no troops.  No divisions, brigades, battalions, etc.  

I think we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan for the most part.  What's "bad" is the president lying about ending the war in Iraq.  

so 10k left in Afghanistan good idea bad idea?

On the Iraq note, badly handled war. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 07:27:27 PM »

so 10k left in Afghanistan good idea bad idea?

On the Iraq note, badly handled war. 



I read this a lot.  Hell, probably said it myself.

So what would have been a well handled war?

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 07:28:14 PM »

so 10k left in Afghanistan good idea bad idea?

On the Iraq note, badly handled war. 

I don't know.  Depends on what the military thinks is necessary to prevent the country from being used as a terrorist training ground again.  I'd hope the number could be zero.  

Agree about Iraq.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 07:34:40 PM »

Here we go again.  Obeezy likes to say one thing and do something else.  He has the press in his back pocket so he never takes any shit for it. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 07:44:10 PM »

are they just staying in the "non permanent" bases which happen to sit along what would be a "possible" oil pipeline pathway?

yeah, the 2004 conspiracy theorists that said we'd be there forever in those exact spots were kinda right, huh?   
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 08:27:39 PM »



I read this a lot.  Hell, probably said it myself.

So what would have been a well handled war?



Its easy to second guess in the aftermath of something that's mishandled.

I think arrogance to certain extent contributed to an aftermath plan that resulted in 8 years of insurgency.  We didn't need 500K troops to win the war, but we needed more than the 150,000 we did have in the aftermath to keep order.  We assumed they would embrace democracy and all behave.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 10:09:50 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 03:14:34 AM »

Here we go again.  Obeezy likes to say one thing and do something else.  He has the press in his back pocket so he never takes any shit for it. 

Yes FOX is so in Obamas back pocket Roll Eyes
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