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Re: Is it the "cool" thing these days to side with terrorist groups like Hamas?
« Reply #275 on: November 20, 2012, 03:35:03 PM »
That people would actually try to argue that Israel has some kind of moral high ground just shows how powerful western media is.

The fact that since 1967 Israel has bulldozed tens of thousands of Palestinian homes and ran the inhabitants off the land is conveniently overlooked when our media labels Hamas as terrorists for apparently targeting civilians.

Israel has also moved more than half a million of it's own civilian population into the occupied territories in contravention of the 4th Geneva Convention. The International Court of Justice states that Israeli settlements are illegal. The UN has targeted Israel with 60 odd resolutions condemning them for the building of settlements and for their general inhumane treatment of Palestinians. Not a single nation on earth recognises the legitimacy of Israel's settlements.

So if Israel totally disregards the UN Security Council, International Law, the Geneva Conventions, why does anyone expect Hamas to follow any sort of code of conduct?
Whichever way you spin it Israel is the aggressor.

The only way I see an end to it is if and when enough people in the west start waking up to what is really going on, and like with apartheid South Africa enough pressure is put on our governments to isolate Israel economically and politically from the rest of the international community.

Please confine your comments to red herring issues.

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« Reply #276 on: November 20, 2012, 03:55:51 PM »
Why do Palestinians want their own state, again?



November 29th, vote yes for Palestine! There's a ton of organizations trying to push petitions forward outside of the UN! Avaaz is one such group!

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Re: Is it the "cool" thing these days to side with terrorist groups like Hamas?
« Reply #277 on: November 20, 2012, 04:06:24 PM »
Why do Palestinians want their own state, again?



November 29th, vote yes for Palestine! There's a ton of organizations trying to push petitions forward outside of the UN! Avaaz is one such group!

That map shows a tiny portion of the planet.  Pull that map back a bit and you'll see that there is a continent of Arabs and Muslim peoples.


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Re: Is it the "cool" thing these days to side with terrorist groups like Hamas?
« Reply #278 on: November 20, 2012, 04:06:30 PM »
Why do Palestinians want their own state, again?



November 29th, vote yes for Palestine! There's a ton of organizations trying to push petitions forward outside of the UN! Avaaz is one such group!

Oh... I love this one.

There is ZERO context here... Follow history and you will see that every one of the "land grabs" that you are trying to talk about (which are bullshit) were because the Palestinians were attacking the Israeli lands, and the Israelis had to push them back FARTHER.

If the Palestinian people would not have attacked, they would not have lost the land in the first place.

Read some history... It might do you some good.


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« Reply #279 on: November 20, 2012, 04:07:37 PM »
^Brain dead fart. You go read a little bit of history. Just a little, it'll help a long ways.

What history? The horse shit pro-zionist media narrative?

How all the time they go waaaaaah we are victims while in fact they are ARMED TO THEIR TEETH and the aggressor.

Each time breaking a truce and they are 'victims'. What the hell are you talking about?

Even the 1967 war was PRE PLANNED. Israeli politicians and army later admitted to just looking for opportunities to create greater israel.

Yes they use strategy but it does not make them any less evil.

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« Reply #280 on: November 20, 2012, 04:07:57 PM »
Oh... I love this one.

There is ZERO context here... Follow history and you will see that every one of the "land grabs" that you are trying to talk about (which are bullshit) were because the Palestinians were attacking the Israeli lands, and the Israelis had to push them back FARTHER.

If the Palestinian people would not have attacked, they would not have lost the land in the first place.

Read some history... It might do you some good.


Don't bother.

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Re: Is it the "cool" thing these days to side with terrorist groups like Hamas?
« Reply #281 on: November 20, 2012, 04:08:20 PM »
Bullshit.  Why can't the Jews take ownership for once.  It is either the Palestinians fault or both their fault but never their own fault.  The israelis decided to surprise attack the Hamas.  They started it and should take fault for it this time.

Donny, why the fuck are you so supportive of Isreal?  They only give a fuck about the USA because they use it as their own personal bank account.  What does the US get from Israel in return?  An ally?  Fuck that shit.

You mean Hamas didn't fire about 600 rockets into Israel first?  Maybe you should call the editor of the Washington Post and NY Times since one of you is wrong.

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« Reply #282 on: November 20, 2012, 04:10:18 PM »
You mean Hamas didn't fire about 600 rockets into Israel first?  Maybe you should call the editor of the Washington Post and NY Times since one of you is wrong.

Oh the credibility.

We heard back and forth 700, 500, 1000, 2000, 300, 600, such consistency!

Fuck their bullshit, they drop thousands of tons of explosives. The last gaza war i forget the exact figure but it was thousands of tons of bombs dropped on gaza! They turned the place into a land fill. Destroyed the university, schools, mosques, hospitals, EVEN A CHICKEN FARM FOR GOD'S SAKE! Cement factory so they cannot rebuild their houses.

SICKOS!

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« Reply #283 on: November 20, 2012, 04:12:10 PM »
Israel bombs chicken farm and yoghurt factory in Gaza


A Palestinian inspects the damage done to a chicken farm in Gaza by an Israeli air strike, March 2012

by Julie Webb-Pullman

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6 June 2012

Gaza radio has been reporting several air strikes in Rafah tonight. It reports that a chicken farm was one of the targets, and tunnels another.

An earlier air strike hit a cattle farm.

On Sunday a cheese and yoghurt factory was targeted, destroying the factory for the fifth time since Operation Cast Lead at the end of 2008. The only weapons ever produced in this factory are lactobacillus casei – a weapon in the war on indigestion.

The deliberate destruction of agricultural and food production enterprises, as well as one of the few sources of imports – the tunnels – is clear evidence of the collective punishment Israel is conducting against the residents of Gaza, on top of its illegal, inhumane and completely indefensible siege.

As a resident of Gaza, the only thing more offensive to me than Israel’s constant attacks on Gaza’s citizens, their livelihoods, their sustenance, and now their very survival is the impunity granted Israel by an international community too gutless and ineffectual to stand up to this rogue state, and hold it accountable for its multiple breaches of human rights and international law.

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« Reply #284 on: November 20, 2012, 04:19:22 PM »
Oh the credibility.

We heard back and forth 700, 500, 1000, 2000, 300, 600, such consistency!

Fuck their bullshit, they drop thousands of tons of explosives. The last gaza war i forget the exact figure but it was thousands of tons of bombs dropped on gaza! They turned the place into a land fill. Destroyed the university, schools, mosques, hospitals, EVEN A CHICKEN FARM FOR GOD'S SAKE! Cement factory so they cannot rebuild their houses.

SICKOS!

I am referring to the few weeks before Israel began to fight back.

The world ignores when Israel is hit, but pays attention as soon as they fight back.

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« Reply #285 on: November 20, 2012, 04:20:54 PM »
Does Hamas not fire their missiles from schools, homes, mosques, etc?  

Does Hamas not want Palestinian casualties in order to be used for world opinion?

Has Hamas not been firing rockets into Israel during the days and weeks before Israel shot back?




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« Reply #286 on: November 20, 2012, 04:24:48 PM »
Horse shit. Israel attacked this time first. (Killed children, palestinians attacked soldiers, again they killed children palestinians attacked soldiers, then israelis kill the very guy brokering a TRUCE... and to make injury further they attack more children)

Israel attacked 4 years ago first too (bombed a police station, unprovoked)

Every single time it is ISRAEL who breaks truce! NEVER upholds a promise, NEVER upholds a truce, NEVER upholds an agreement!

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« Reply #287 on: November 20, 2012, 04:26:23 PM »
Don't bother.

He can always move to Gaza and try to take up some arms... I mean, it's easy to talk about everyone's evil from the security of the computer screen.

I mean, if he really cared, he would go help his brethren right?

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« Reply #288 on: November 20, 2012, 04:28:21 PM »
He can always move to Gaza and try to take up some arms... I mean, it's easy to talk about everyone's evil from the security of the computer screen.

I mean, if he really cared, he would go help his brethren right?
Nah, he'd rather get all up in arms and wish death on cancer on people from the safety civilized western home than actually go out and put himself in harms way.

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« Reply #289 on: November 20, 2012, 04:30:49 PM »
Yes, Israelis loves running to bomb shelters. Bro, Hamas has been shooting hundreds of missiles into Israel. 

And the head of Hamas had the secret for peace......after 65 years.

Israel made a mistake handing over Gaza to the Palestinians, who did nothing but hand the keys to Hamas.


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« Reply #290 on: November 20, 2012, 04:32:48 PM »
Emotion = 1

Critical thought = 0

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« Reply #291 on: November 20, 2012, 04:44:24 PM »
Yes, Israelis loves running to bomb shelters. Bro, Hamas has been shooting hundreds of missiles into Israel.  

And the head of Hamas had the secret for peace......after 65 years.

Israel made a mistake handing over Gaza to the Palestinians, who did nothing but hand the keys to Hamas.



Palestine does not belong to zionists. They give nothing but death and destructions. Deception and lies.

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« Reply #292 on: November 20, 2012, 04:46:14 PM »
Israel bombs chicken farm and yoghurt factory in Gaza


A Palestinian inspects the damage done to a chicken farm in Gaza by an Israeli air strike, March 2012

by Julie Webb-Pullman

Scoop

6 June 2012

Gaza radio has been reporting several air strikes in Rafah tonight. It reports that a chicken farm was one of the targets, and tunnels another.

An earlier air strike hit a cattle farm.

On Sunday a cheese and yoghurt factory was targeted, destroying the factory for the fifth time since Operation Cast Lead at the end of 2008. The only weapons ever produced in this factory are lactobacillus casei – a weapon in the war on indigestion.

The deliberate destruction of agricultural and food production enterprises, as well as one of the few sources of imports – the tunnels – is clear evidence of the collective punishment Israel is conducting against the residents of Gaza, on top of its illegal, inhumane and completely indefensible siege.

As a resident of Gaza, the only thing more offensive to me than Israel’s constant attacks on Gaza’s citizens, their livelihoods, their sustenance, and now their very survival is the impunity granted Israel by an international community too gutless and ineffectual to stand up to this rogue state, and hold it accountable for its multiple breaches of human rights and international law.

You forgot to mention the part where it says there were rockets hidden in the buiilding, which have been seen by either israeli drones or sattelites. Also what is the source of the "article"...

ACHMED?

I swear it's about time anything that looks like a muslim gets pulverized on this planet. It's long overdue.

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« Reply #293 on: November 20, 2012, 04:53:14 PM »
I still want to know when it was last Palestine anyway?

Before Israel was Jewish controlled it was British Controlled land... So seriously... What claim do the "Palestinian" people have on it?

You didn't own it before the Jewish people for years... So what's the issue here?


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« Reply #294 on: November 20, 2012, 06:04:06 PM »
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« Reply #295 on: November 20, 2012, 06:09:09 PM »
I stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

 The only good Zionist is a DEAD Zionist.
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« Reply #296 on: November 20, 2012, 06:09:49 PM »
If Israel's response was proportionate and measured then no.

Considering they only seem to be killing women and children it seems yes.


A response to violence has to be proportionate? So if they send a 100 rockets Israel should sent 100 rockets back of the same type? Let me school you. These terrorist launch these rockets from civilian areas so when Israel locks on their locations and retaliates the terrorist run to the liberal media complaining of civilians killed. The terrorist are responsible for their own people getting killed. They launched these rockets not Israel. The only response these animal terrorists know is overwhelming force.  

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« Reply #297 on: November 20, 2012, 06:20:43 PM »
A response to violence has to be proportionate? So if they send a 100 rockets Israel should sent 100 rockets back of the same type? Let me school you. These terrorist launch these rockets from civilian areas so when Israel locks on their locations and retaliates the terrorist run to the liberal media complaining of civilians killed. The terrorist are responsible for their own people getting killed. They launched these rockets not Israel. The only response these animal terrorists know is overwhelming force.  
correct and they do not care.

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« Reply #298 on: November 20, 2012, 07:14:10 PM »
It wasn't ARABS who have hijacked my government- it is JEWS.
It isn't ARABS rigging the US stock market and commodities future market-JEWS
It isn't ARABS who own and run the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in the process of destroying the dollar and the American economy- it is JEWS
It wasn't ARABS that sent our military into Iraq-it was JEWS
It isn't ARABS who continue to enforce affirmative action upon us in all walks of life-it is JEWS
It isn't ARABS who buy off our legislators with our our own tax dollars-it is JEWS
It wasn't ARABS who started and ran so many black organizations like the NAACP-it is JEWS
It isn't ARABS who literally own all of Hollywood enterprise- it is JEWS
It isnt ARABS spewing race-mixing propaganda from the TV and movie screens-it is the JEWS


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« Reply #299 on: November 20, 2012, 08:12:07 PM »
You forgot to mention the part where it says there were rockets hidden in the buiilding, which have been seen by either israeli drones or sattelites. Also what is the source of the "article"...

ACHMED?

I swear it's about time anything that looks like a muslim gets pulverized on this planet. It's long overdue.
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