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« on: November 19, 2012, 12:26:49 PM »

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Public nudity ban being considered by San Francisco lawmakers
A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail
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Monday, November 19, 2012


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Demonstrators gather at a protest against a proposed nudity ban outside of City Hall in San Francisco

San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.

City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents the area.

Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.

A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.

Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints have continued.

"I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.

The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking tourists and high school students on a field trip.

Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."

"A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."

Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself, demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen," she said.

San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford to obtain a city permit.

While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had to craft a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done so.

"I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/public-nudity-faces-ban-san-francisco-article-1.1204514
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 01:04:39 PM »

Wow,  i don't know if i like or dislike this lol
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 01:06:07 PM »

As long as they keep pelosi/waxman et al clothed im all for it,. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 01:07:49 PM »

Wow,  i don't know if i like or dislike this lol

You don't know if you like or dislike seeing men walking around ne-kid?   Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2012, 01:12:59 PM »

You don't know if you like or dislike seeing men walking around ne-kid?   Undecided

That wouldn't bother me.  I don't if i would like unattractive women walking around naked  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2012, 01:16:29 PM »

That wouldn't bother me.  I don't if i would like unattractive women walking around naked  Smiley

I'd suffer permanent damage if I was exposed to both.  lol
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2012, 01:17:00 PM »

No surprise.  You often see candidates (male and female) running for County Commissioner offices standing around naked and holding their campaign sign.  Two years ago when I was there and they had the OWS march, I saw at least 20 naked people march by while I was in the Apple store getting a new iPhone.   I asked a cop about it years ago and he said that unless they were mentally altered (drugs, alcohol, sickness, etc..) and behaving in a disruptive way or if there was any kind of sexual overtones to it (touching their junk or sporting wood) then there was nothing that they could do about it.

Strange city.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2012, 09:00:09 PM »

I'm fine with this public nudity except the public transportation.  I don't wanna be on some bus packed together while a naked Andre is smashed into me.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2012, 09:02:47 PM »

I'm fine with this public nudity except the public transportation.  I don't wanna be on some bus packed together while a naked Andre is smashed into me.

ypu would feel very different if you were in NYC.  If you saw the trash and scum at the average bus stop in NYC no way on earth you want those whales nude in public 
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 09:09:41 PM »

ypu would feel very different if you were in NYC.  If you saw the trash and scum at the average bus stop in NYC no way on earth you want those whales nude in public 


Ha...reminds me of the nude beaches over seas.  The first time I went to one, I was about 15 and excited as all hell.  I couldn't WAIT!  I get there, and all of the people that were nude shouldn't have been.  They were either old, fat, wrinkly, ugly, or just down right nasty.

After numerous let downs, I'm still searching for a nude beach where the attractive people hang out, lol.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2012, 09:13:19 PM »


Ha...reminds me of the nude beaches over seas.  The first time I went to one, I was about 15 and excited as all hell.  I couldn't WAIT!  I get there, and all of the people that were nude shouldn't have been.  They were either old, fat, wrinkly, ugly, or just down right nasty.

After numerous let downs, I'm still searching for a nude beach where the attractive people hang out, lol.

when you find it let me know 
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2012, 09:31:27 PM »


Ha...reminds me of the nude beaches over seas.  The first time I went to one, I was about 15 and excited as all hell.  I couldn't WAIT!  I get there, and all of the people that were nude shouldn't have been.  They were either old, fat, wrinkly, ugly, or just down right nasty.

After numerous let downs, I'm still searching for a nude beach where the attractive people hang out, lol.
It's in some random backyard in porn valley.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 06:20:19 AM »

St Tropez has some beautiful bodies on display.  Though lately the bodies have become more and more plastic.

The nude beach here Haulover resembles a giant picnic for the Walmart super shoppers.  I am surprised Greenpeace doesn't show up and start hauling blobs back into the water.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 08:09:28 AM »

 SF, weather wise, would NOT be my 1st choice of cities to walk around nude
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2012, 08:15:11 AM »

SF, weather wise, would NOT be my 1st choice of cities to walk around nude

It's not that bad from Sept-end of Oct.  That is the only time of the year I care to go.
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