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« on: November 29, 2012, 06:41:08 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 06:42:26 PM »

Lol, like it matters, no one takes the UN seriously and nothing is going to change, so who gives a shit?
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 06:47:51 PM »

 they went from being a permanent observer to a non-member observer.  i dont think that means they are a recognized state.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 06:49:42 PM »

they went from being a permanent observer to a non-member observer.  i dont think that means they are a recognized state.

Exactly.  Reading comprehension isn't one of Vince's strong points.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 06:55:37 PM »

By NBC News staff and wire services
The U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution on Thursday giving implicit recognition to Palestinian statehood despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding funds for the West Bank government.

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The resolution, which lifts the Palestinian Authority's U.N. observer status from "entity" to "non-member state," like the Vatican possesses, easily passed the 193-nation General Assembly with 138 nations voting in favor, and nine opposed, including the United States. Forty-one countries abstained, including the United Kingdom.

Israel, the United States and the other members who opposed the resolution see it as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians. The vote took place on the 65th anniversary of the assembly's adoption of resolution 181 on the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.

Maybe you guys should read a little more.

Vince is correct.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 06:56:59 PM »

By NBC News staff and wire services
The U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution on Thursday giving implicit recognition to Palestinian statehood despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding funds for the West Bank government.

Follow @NBCNewsWorld
The resolution, which lifts the Palestinian Authority's U.N. observer status from "entity" to "non-member state," like the Vatican possesses, easily passed the 193-nation General Assembly with 138 nations voting in favor, and nine opposed, including the United States. Forty-one countries abstained, including the United Kingdom.

Israel, the United States and the other members who opposed the resolution see it as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians. The vote took place on the 65th anniversary of the assembly's adoption of resolution 181 on the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.

Maybe you guys should read a little more.

Vince is correct.
Meh, as I said, it will change nothing.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 06:57:32 PM »

Meh, as I said, it will change nothing.

I agree completely... We recognize Chad as a state and it means nothing to anyone.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2012, 08:49:42 PM »

Implicit-implied, not = explicit- stated or actual. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2012, 08:59:10 PM »

israel really are bastards

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2012, 09:10:29 PM »

I'm implying that they should build a chain of Mirage Hotels all over Palestine.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2012, 09:11:38 PM »

israel really are bastards

aipac should be audited

For once I agree with you.  Completely.  VIVA PALESTINE!!
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 01:02:34 AM »


Maybe you guys should read a little more.

Vince is correct.

Well in fairness he didn't post an article stating as such and I was going off an article I was reading earlier about UN membership, which didn't mention state recognition.

But yea, it's rather anti-climatic.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 03:07:23 AM »

Its not exactly monumental but it is definitely a small step in the right direction for the Palestinian struggle. It is an upgrade in status that may enable them to join other international agencies such as the International Criminal Court.
Which would allow them to refer Israel to the international court for breaching the Geneva Conventions, for it's forcible displacement of civilians and illegal transfer of it's own civilian population into the occupied regions, amongst other human rights abuses.

The Israelis certainly aren't happy with it, internal Israeli documents show they have been talking about trying to overthrow the Palestinian President if the UN upgrade went ahead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20322405


The official UK position after the ruling was to request "assurances" that Palestine would not try to pursue "ICC jurisdiction over the Occupied Territories at this stage"

What a f@cking joke , please assure us you won't use the international laws we were instrumental in setting up to seek justice for yourselves.






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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 03:22:41 AM »

Good for them.

Now you just watch peace break out everywhere.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 05:13:55 AM »

UN general assembly makes resounding vote in favour of Palestinian statehood

Overwhelming majority votes to recognise Palestine as non-member state as US and Israel are left to condemn decision



The United Nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to recognise Palestine as a state, in the face of opposition from Israel and the US.

The 193-member assembly voted 138 in favour of the plan, with only nine against and 41 abstentions. The scale of the defeat represented a strong and public repudiation for Israel and the US, who find themselves out of step with the rest of the world.

Thursday's vote marked a diplomatic breakthrough for Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and could help his standing after weeks in which he has been sidelined by Palestinian rivals Hamas in the Gaza conflict.

Abbas, who flew from Ramallah, on the West Bank, to New York to address the general assembly, said: "The moment has arrived for the world to say clearly: enough of aggression, settlements and occupation."

A Palestinian flag was unfurled on the floor of the general assembly after the vote.

Several hundred people turned out in Yasser Arafat square in Ramallah on the West Bank, waving flags and singing along to nationalist music to mark the occasion.

In his address, Abbas noted the symbolism of the date, the 65th anniversary of the UN partitioning what had been British-ruled Palestine into Jewish and Arab countries. In the decades that followed, the idea of an independent Palestine had often been in danger of disappearing but had been "miraculously" kept alive, he said.

The general assembly resolution had finally given legitimacy to Palestine, he said. "The general assembly is called upon today to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the state of Palestine."

Israel and the US immediately condemned the resolution. The office of the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, described Abbas's speech as incitement and full of lies about Israel.

Ron Prosor, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, said: "Because this resolution is so one-sided, it doesn't advance peace, it pushes it backwards."

The only way to a Palestinian state was through direct negotiations, he said.

Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, described the vote as "unfortunate and counterproductive". She said: "Only through direct negotiations between the parties can the Palestinians and Israelis achieve the peace that both deserve: two states for two people, with a sovereign, viable and independent Palestine living side-by-side in peace and security with a Jewish and democratic Israel."

Thursday's resolution raises Palestine from being a "non-member observer entity" to a "non-member observer state". The key is the final word, which confers UN legitimacy on Palestinian statehood and, while it cannot vote at the general assembly, it will enjoy other benefits, such as the chance to join international bodies such as the International Criminal Court (ICC).

While important, the resolution is limited, elevating Palestine only to the status of the Vatican, which until Thursday had been the only other non-member observer state. For Palestinians, the idea of an independent state bears little reality on the ground, given the degree of Israeli involvement in the West Bank and Gaza.

The US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, speaking after the vote, disputed that the resolution conferred statehood on Palestine. "Today's grand announcements will soon fade and the Palestinians will wake up to realise that little in their lives has changed," Rice said. "This resolution does not establish Palestine as a state."

But the coalition against the vote was thin. Apart from Israel and the US, those voting against were Canada, the Czech Republic, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Panama.

European countries such as France, Italy, Spain, Norway, Denmark and Switzerland all voted yes. Britain and Germany both abstained, with Britain saying Abbas had failed to promise he would resume peace negotiations with Israel.

Some countries, especially in Europe, switched from abstention to support out of a feeling that Abbas needed to be bolstered after eight days of conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians earlier this month. An estimated 158 Palestinians died in Gaza, and six Israelis were killed.

The Israeli and US governments had put pressure on the Palestinians not to press the issue to a vote and threatened significant retaliation   mainly in the form of punitive financial measures. They have since largely backtracked over the threats, concerned that withdrawal of major funding might undermine Abbas at a time when he is particularly vulnerable.

The prospect of the Palestinians applying to bodies such as the ICC is one of the main reasons for Israeli opposition, fearful that the Palestinians might try to launch a case over Jewish settlements on the West Bank or over military attacks on the West Bank and Gaza.

Palestinian officials say they have no immediate plans to do so but it remains a new and useful lever for the future.

The Obama administration, in an effort to try to persuade the Palestinians to drop the vote, sent deputy secretary of state Bill Burns to see Abbas on Wednesday. But Abbas turned down his pleas.

The US, Israel and Britain wanted the Palestinians to give explicit pledges they would not seek to join the ICC any time soon and also to resume peace negotiations with the Israelis that were abandoned in 2010 over a settlement expansion.

In Ramallah, hundreds watching on a television in the square cheered enthusiastically for Abbas as he denounced Israel's most recent assault on Gaza.

When the Israeli ambassador began addressing the UN, the crowd in the square watching on a giant television screen began booing. Prosor's speech was suddenly cut, and nationalist music fired up.

But the mood of the crowd did not appear to be that of people who thought they were marking a great national moment, or who had hope that the general assembly's recognition of Palestinian statehood amounted to anything like the birth of a real country.


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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 05:21:42 AM »

so this means palestine will stop sending in suicide bombers in to Israel? probably not  Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2012, 05:22:02 AM »

about time.................... . biggest disgrace in modern politics that this never happend along time ago


and for the record im not a big religion of peace fan either, but those poor fuckers have been held down for decades  
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2012, 05:22:08 AM »

Good for them.

Now you just watch peace break out everywhere.


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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 05:27:12 AM »

so this means palestine will stop sending in suicide bombers in to Israel? probably not  Cheesy


until isreal treats palestine as a credible state and treats it lawfully as it would with its other neighbours they most probably wont...

i draw the line between terrorism and freedom fighting with these guys, if they hadnt of carried on prolonged attacks they would never have been in this position they are now with the UN and the worlds eyes on them, and isreal would have took more and more land back

this shit wont be sorted out in my lifetime...
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2012, 05:35:23 AM »

about time.................... . biggest disgrace in modern politics that this never happend along time ago


and for the record im not a big religion of peace fan either, but those poor fuckers have been held down for decades  

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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2012, 05:42:30 AM »

Is this the same UN that has countries like Saudi Arabia (as well as many others) and formerly Libya On a council dedicated to human rights?


Haha, who gives a fuck? Hopefully the UN is driven into the sea with the Mohammedans.
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2012, 06:02:28 AM »

The united nations of Islam have spoken.
The arabs upped their anti jew game big time - hopefully there's war soon.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2012, 06:05:07 AM »

ron avidan and his family have immunity from prosecution
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2012, 06:06:54 AM »

The united nations of Islam have spoken.
The arabs upped their anti jew game big time - hopefully there's war soon.


put your self in the shoes of a paletinion, would you react any differntly?


the whole world except isreal and parts of usa see's this in palestines favour
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2012, 06:10:09 AM »

Hopefully the extremist muslims will now comply to UN standerds, if not, hopefully they take them by storm
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