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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #125 on: December 16, 2012, 12:20:15 PM »
listen to your own advice you loser. read the quran first then come and aruge about it, not the other way around.

the koran is garbage... almost as retarded as the bible

reading it reduces your IQ

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #126 on: December 16, 2012, 12:21:16 PM »
Well, no need to read the coran -which i read some versets from tho- to understand its consequences on mankind, just need to look at the shitholes you come from and...probably left for the judeo christian built world, ironically. 

You re not going anywhere with me achmed.


LOL you too smart for us!!!! you loser, go celebrate you pagan christmas and easter. the Quran is too good for you, you scum.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #127 on: December 16, 2012, 12:21:59 PM »
the koran is garbage... almost as retarded as the bible

reading it reduces your IQ

Sorry you feel that way man. I hope God guides you.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #128 on: December 16, 2012, 12:24:24 PM »
Sorry you feel that way man. I hope God guides you.



hahahahahahahaha

god is guiding me to another beer

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2012, 12:24:45 PM »


hahahahahahahaha

god is guiding me to another beer

to each his own bro

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2012, 12:26:53 PM »
to each his own bro

ok "bro".

"Hahaha", the wonders of globalization.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2012, 12:28:04 PM »
ok "bro".

"Hahaha", the wonders of globalization.

 I am an american muslim you bitch

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #132 on: December 16, 2012, 12:38:35 PM »
I am an american muslim you bitch
No, you re a muslim living in america -not the same- because your parents couldnt stand the shithole they came from and had better aspirations they couldnt achieve there because it's impossible to due to the nature of islamic countries and populations. Lost in a confusing world you mix stuff learnt, acquired here in occident with some pieces of the coran to build your current system of beliefs and give a meaning to your existence.
Of course there are similiarities between the Bible and the coran, as the coran is a copy made by men of the Bible that came First. This is probably, subconsciously, why your parents moved in the west, because they knew christianity was the real deal.
Now seeing atheism taking over the west and leading white people to stop reproducing, you muslims living in north america and occident in general see this as a sign proving islam is right and christianism is wrong, even if christianism is the reason why our societies seduced you and your parents and made you move here.

Without a doubt you and those of your kind have no future in north america as it will evolve in the next decades, but if you abandon your hypocritical belief and embrace the real and only true one. I suggest you move to europe if you want to stay muslim, as atheist european will indeed disapear without a fight or understanding what s happening to them. Christian north americans will take notice of europe's faith, their cousins, and will prevent it from happening in north america.

It is interesting to notice tho, that it's american atheists that allowed dangerous clowns like you to settle in north america. I doubt genuine christians wether they re protestant or catholic would have.
 

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #133 on: December 16, 2012, 12:44:08 PM »
No, you re a muslim living in america -not the same- because your parents couldnt stand the shithole they came from and had better aspirations. Lost in a confusing world you mix stuff learnt, acquired here in occident with some pieces of the coran to build your current system of beliefs and give a meaning to your existence.
Of course there are similiarities between the Bible and the coran, as the coran is a copy made by men of the Bible that came First. This is probably, subconsciously, why your parents moved in the west, because they knew christianity was the real deal.
Now seeing atheism taking over the west and leading white people to stop reproducing, you muslims living in north america and occident in general see this as a sign proving islam is right and christianism is wrong, even if christianism is the reason why our societies seduced you and your parents and made you move here.

Without a doubt you and those of your kind have no future in north america as it will evolve in the next decades, but if you abandon your hypocritical belief and embrace the real and only true one.

It is interesting to notice tho, that it's american atheists that allowed dangerous clowns like you to settle in north america. I doubt christians wether they re protestants or catholics would have.


 




STFU you bitch.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #134 on: December 16, 2012, 12:47:17 PM »



STFU you bitch.

And?









The world of tomorrow is what we make of it.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #135 on: December 16, 2012, 01:22:29 PM »
lol poor uberman is scared of the truth. its alright truth hurts man. im done debating with you.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #136 on: December 16, 2012, 01:27:36 PM »
ignorance is bliss
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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #137 on: December 16, 2012, 01:50:16 PM »
i have read all the old and new testament, and there was no coordinates for a map to find heaven.

i have also read the quran.



seeing as you have read both, honestly which seems like it makes more sense?

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #138 on: December 16, 2012, 01:54:44 PM »
lol poor uberman is scared of the truth. its alright truth hurts man. im done debating with you.

I hold the truth as i follow the only and real God, when you re just an uneducated clown believing in lies who just made an ass of himself.

Don't let the door slam your ass on the way out spanky.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #139 on: December 16, 2012, 02:00:04 PM »
i agree, but it depend to whom you are referring to ;D

Come to think of it believing in a "heaven" or not will not make you happier. The religious nuts do seem to be less self destructive though. (jihads excluded ofc).
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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #140 on: December 16, 2012, 02:19:21 PM »

I hold the truth as i follow the only and real God, when you re just an uneducated clown believing in lies who just made an ass of himself.

Don't let the door slam your ass on the way out spanky.



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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #141 on: December 16, 2012, 03:34:55 PM »
seeing as you have read both, honestly which seems like it makes more sense?
Bro why are you getting mad? If you respect Islam then keep your cool as a representative you should not be arrogant in your defence, especially at Uberman when we know all his screws aren't there, sorry Uberman but you say some wacky shit.

Now to answer your question they both make equal sense.


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Re: to the religious nutcases, where is heaven located?
« Reply #142 on: December 16, 2012, 03:36:36 PM »
why do you assume something existed outside of the big bang or the singularity (which didn't actually physically exist)?
wow you are really making a lot of sense  ::)

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #143 on: December 16, 2012, 03:37:03 PM »
What created the "hot dense state"? It just doesn't magically appear from nothing.
or does it ?

I think you're half right on this...Time as WE KNOW IT did start at the big bang since that is the reference point that we use as the beginning of the universe..but time was always there......its eternal
it certainlly feels intuitive to me that time is an eternal concept.  i dont see any reason to designate any "beginning" or "end" to time "as we know it".. simply because im not sure we actually know anything about time anyways.

You do realise that Stephen hawking has theorised that Time began at THE BIG BANG, hard to know who to believe, a delusional getbigger or the worlds smartest physicist!

 Science will win because it works.
most agree stephen hawking is a brilliant man. ive heard it said before that alot of his statements about metaphysical subjects such as time and god were just things he said to hype up his work and get more media coverage.


i had a little bit of resentment towards galeniko that i let go of by posting that vicious indictment. lol

What you stated is an Opinion, not a theory.  A theory can be supported by facts and evidence, while an opinion is only what someone feels is true.  Theories and Opinions and not the same, they are completely different.  A Theory is an idea that can be tested or a testable concept that is used to explain an occurrence. For example, the science behind air flight is based on theories! Verifiable theories!  If it was my opinion that a helicopter couldn't fly, it wouldn't affect the reality that it could.
opinions can usually be tested and usually help to explain some occurence.  also, theories are simply mental concepts. a theory is an opinion with consensues among individuals based on observed "facts". 

why do you assume something existed outside of the big bang or the singularity (which didn't actually physically exist)?
i dont assume anything either way. why assert there was nothing or something outside of it? on what grounds could you make either assertion?

oh this jst crossed my mind, if peope ask what was there before the big bang, i got to answer that with another question.

who created god?
god is a concept, and within the generally accepted definition of that concept is the idea of eternality. which means questioning the origin or beginning of the concept is contradictory.


I believe "Tdongz the dong scientist" was a Lovemonkey production.
LOL never heard that one before

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Re: to the religious nutcases, where is heaven located?
« Reply #144 on: December 16, 2012, 03:40:19 PM »
oh this jst crossed my mind, if peope ask what was there before the big bang, i got to answer that with another question.

who created god?
Exactly true my friend, you are right by asking that in return you are giving them a question that is impossible to answer as they did to you, so in reality the answer to both questions would not be rational and would not make sense to the human mind.

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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #145 on: December 16, 2012, 03:42:03 PM »
Where is my tree stand located?
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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #146 on: December 16, 2012, 03:42:50 PM »
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor wiling?
Then why call him God.
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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #147 on: December 16, 2012, 03:47:01 PM »
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor wiling?
Then why call him God.


i could easily point out to you some obvious difficulties involved with interfering in the development of independent, free-willed souls...

instead ill just ask you, whats the point of your poem?


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Re: Where is heaven located? To the religious nutcases?
« Reply #148 on: December 16, 2012, 03:50:08 PM »
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor wiling?
Then why call him God.

well if you go to land a plane your instructor will interfere if you are about to crash it right? of course.... Now if you are about to crash the plane on a simulator would your instructor interfere? No of course not because it is the only done on the simulator....... You follow?

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Re: to the religious nutcases, where is heaven located?
« Reply #149 on: December 16, 2012, 03:51:02 PM »
Exactly true my friend, you are right by asking that in return you are giving them a question that is impossible to answer as they did to you, so in reality the answer to both questions would not be rational and would not make sense to the human mind.
i dont know about that.  eternity is a concept i find very easy to slip into. its the concept of personal non-existence which i find to be difficult to get inside of.

i would argue that the concept of an eternal energy that creates all things is much easier to settle inside of than the idea of some temporal, meaningless, uncaused, "existence" that ends with non-existence and the absence of knowledge or awareness of any kind.