I've read that Trenbolone has a anabolic to adrogenic ratio of 500/500. Compared to lets say, Testestosterone, which has a ratio of 100/100. If Tren is 5 times more anabolic than test what other steroid has a similar anabolic ratio as tren, or is the next AAS a distant 2nd?
i dont think it can be comoared like that..tried them all, now way did tren give better growht than test mg per mgtake 500mg weekly of either and itll be about the same results, as far lean mass gains are concerned, maybe les water retetnion from tren, if diet is ok.anadrol, yeah, its the strongest, by feeling, but unless i dont eat anything at all or so, its gona be all bloofy gains.i remember reading deca is suposed to be very anabolic, like 5times more than test, but it doesnt show in the real world application.
what about halo?
superdrol, metyhl trenbolone (overnight jaundice), anadrol thats the only ones i can think of being stronger than trenbolone..
.................would be good to know where it ranks in this anabolic androgenic list.
Halotestin has a anabolic to androgenic ratio of 1,900 to 850, which is the highest number I've seen for both sides as of now. Some info may be dated, but I think it's a informative site overall.
These numbers are kinda meaningless quite frankly.. they are all in vivo animal studies.
nicademus, the waterholding musntnt be bad, gives energy and keeps the joints wet.but i know what you mean, sometimes after a bad food day, haha, 5lbs water gains, swolen joints and face this dont happen on tren and masteron.might try some propionate instead of test e, the enanthate is quite unforgiving.
M1T is missing from this list, that stuff is insane! (If legit). Every single one of my gym buddies (me included) look very different after 2 weeks on the stuff 20 mg/day (when added to regular cycle). But it has a lot of sides: lethargy, high bp, fucked lipids, water retention, anxiety, sleeping issues. I'd say that the only orals that are stronger than that are the very rare (and often fake) Mibolerone and methyltrienolone. It still makes me laugh how people called it a "pro-hormone" and that it was legal...
whaa 50mg m1t? no way.. from all forums ive read the MOST anyone would run and FEEL like death would be 30-40mg and that would be on the high scale most ran 20mg and still felt like death... far stronger toxicity than superdrol.. i tried superdrol at 50mg and made gains while on dnp thats how strong that shit was (i dunno how but it was amazing) not smart.. not smart at all that was a year ago.50mg to 100mg of m1t wtf lol.... instant liver death? methyl trenbolone oral is jaundice in a pill on the other hand....So ya pretty much the top contenders would be methyl trionelone (spelling?), m1t then superdrol.. then anadrol.. anadrol being somewhere on par with superdrol .. nothing like anadrol to give instant muscle fullness but its water..
in terms of Anabolic, hows EQ vs TEST?
well if you read my quote most people including myself ran 30mg but I know some crazy powerlifters who ran 50-100mg of M1T daily for a month. most bodybuilders stuck to around 30mg daily. It was the powerlifters who abused it. I have only seen one guy get juandice side effects like yellow eyes and bad skin and he had to go to the hospital and he ran the very first original gaspari halodrol(the one that was only on the market for a few weeks with the DMT and masking agent) I took the same Gaspari halodrol-50 and I was on it for a month and the only side got was I needed bigger Tank tops. Crazy shit!just like M1T but I thought it was cleaner yet that was the only oral product I have seen hospatilize someone.and it was purchased legally!
^^I ran one month of M1T back in the day, never ever saw anything like it even on 20mg/day!!! I just WISH (no I pray!) there was a source for it these days- I'd relive 2005 all over again and order 10 bottles!!!!!
