how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin

[NeoSeminole]

Wrong yet again fan boy , that's precontest learn the difference

Losing battle ? how about posting a pic of Ronnie flexed and Dorian not? oppppsss you did that , who said Ronnie is a moron and not a credible source than tried to pass him off as one? oppppps you did that

Ronnie at his best 1998 couldn't beat Flex , Dorian obliterated Flex , Dorian would trample Ronnie at his best

sorry but Flex himself admitted that Ronnie is the best bodybuilder he ever competed against. Not Dorian

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

[NarcissisticDeity]

even standing relaxed, you can tell Ronnie was already beginning to surpass Dorian in size in 96

You must learn stupid Neo , lots of guys surpassed Dorian in size , how many of those guys beat him? 

And Ronnie 1996 didn't touch Dorian in size , you're mistaken to think 250lbs out-of-shape is anything near Dorian , Ronnie was 255lbs in 1997 and in 9th place lol I wonder why?

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry but Flex himself admitted that Ronnie is the best bodybuilder he ever competed against. Not Dorian

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

That means what? exactly? That Flex didn't push Ronnie at his absolute best to the limits? That Dorian crushed Flex easily and would do the same to Ronnie 1998?

Flex has an opinion and good for him , that has nothing to do with what transpired , you're getting frustrated because you can't counter that Ronnie at what he said was his best shape ever ( 1998 ) a shape he said he could NEVER again replicate only beat Flex by 3 points , Dorian would leave Ronnie at his best for dead and I'm talking Dorian 1993 , nevermind Dorian 1995 or at 269lbs

[The Grim Lifter]

WRONG he was not ignored in the first round , he was compared 9 times in the first round.

He was put third in the first round with 17 points, then won the next 3 rounds with perfect scores? He changed that much? He either wasn't oiled up properly (as said in the MM report) or they missed how good he was. You can't say he only won by three points saying it was close, he won three rounds with perfect scores. It wasn't close at all in condition just one fuck up of a round.

[NeoSeminole]

That means what? exactly? That Flex didn't push Ronnie at his absolute best to the limits? That Dorian crushed Flex easily and would do the same to Ronnie 1998?

Flex has an opinion and good for him , that has nothing to do with what transpired , you're getting frustrated because you can't counter that Ronnie at what he said was his best shape ever ( 1998 ) a shape he said he could NEVER again replicate only beat Flex by 3 points , Dorian would leave Ronnie at his best for dead and I'm talking Dorian 1993 , nevermind Dorian 1995 or at 269lbs

too bad your opinion means crap. Flex wasn't talking about 98 so the judges scoring is irrelevant in this case. He was referring to Ronnie's 03 Mr. Olympia physique. Both Flex and Ronnie agree that 03 would beat Dorian at his prime

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Ronnie Coleman - MuscleMecca Forum Thread

Poster: "Ron, honestly who wins between Dorian at his best (1993/1995) vs you at your best (1999, ASC 01, Olympia 2003..etc)?"

Ronnie: "Comon man, you know 2003 cant be stopped."

http://musclemecca.com/kings-court-q-ronnie-coleman-296/big-ron-coleman-here-real-220513/index4.html


Boom. Game over

[NarcissisticDeity]

He was put third in the first round with 17 points, then won the next 3 rounds with perfect scores? He changed that much? He either wasn't oiled up properly (as said in the MM report) or they missed how good he was. You can't say he only won by three points saying it was close, he won three rounds with perfect scores. It wasn't close at all in condition just one fuck up of a round.

It was close and again he was compared NINE times in the first round. Ronnie knew it was close , Flex knew it , the whole industry did , Ronnie squeaked out a close call and they picked the right guy

Ronnie was lucky in 1998 lucky Flex did the Arnold and was in awesome shape and was spent Olympia time and lucky the judges didn't go with Flex on name alone.

Flex beat Ronnie 6 times in their careers , and Ronnie beat Flex 6 times both could beat each other , neither could beat Dorian

[NeoSeminole]

It was close and again he was compared NINE times in the first round. Ronnie knew it was close , Flex knew it , the whole industry did , Ronnie squeaked out a close call and they picked the right guy

Ronnie was lucky in 1998 lucky Flex did the Arnold and was in awesome shape and was spent Olympia time and lucky the judges didn't go with Flex on name alone.

Flex beat Ronnie 6 times in their careers , and Ronnie beat Flex 6 times both could beat each other , neither could beat Dorian

way to completely ignore his post and then repeat the same nonsense. Ronnie could've been compared 1,000 times in the first round. It doesn't matter b/c he won the next 3 rounds with perfect scores. How do you explain that?

[NarcissisticDeity]

too bad your opinion means crap. Flex wasn't talking about 98 so the judges scoring is irrelevant in this case. He was referring to Ronnie's 03 Mr. Olympia physique. Both Flex and Ronnie agree that 03 would beat Dorian at his prime

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Ronnie Coleman - MuscleMecca Forum Thread

Poster: "Ron, honestly who wins between Dorian at his best (1993/1995) vs you at your best (1999, ASC 01, Olympia 2003..etc)?"

Ronnie: "Comon man, you know 2003 cant be stopped."

http://musclemecca.com/kings-court-q-ronnie-coleman-296/big-ron-coleman-here-real-220513/index4.html


Boom. Game over

too bad your opinion means crap. Flex wasn't talking about 98 so the judges scoring is irrelevant in this case. He was referring to Ronnie's 03 Mr. Olympia physique. Both Flex and Ronnie agree that 03 would beat Dorian at his prime

Too bad Ronnie's opinion means crap , according to you 

And again YOU don't even know if that's really Ronnie on that site LMAO some members on there don't believe it

03 = overrated compared to 98/01 hence why Ronnie and almost anyone with credibility says so

Dorian would make short work of Ronnie 03 

[NarcissisticDeity]

way to completely ignore his post and then repeat the same nonsense. Ronnie could've been compared 1,000 times in the first round. It doesn't matter b/c he won the next 3 rounds with perfect scores. How do you explain that?

I didn't dumb ass , who care if he won the next three rounds with a perfect score what was the FINAL SCORE genius?

Ronnie Coleman 32 - Flex Wheeler 35 , still to this day one of the closest Mr Olympia contests in history

Final score is all that matters and it says clearly it was close.

[The Grim Lifter]

I didn't dumb ass , who care if he won the next three rounds with a perfect score what was the FINAL SCORE genius?

Ronnie Coleman 32 - Flex Wheeler 35 , still to this day one of the closest Mr Olympia contests in history

Final score is all that matters and it says clearly it was close.

You argue pointless things. Ronnie beat Flex 6 times and Flex beat Ronnie 6 times? From the 1998 Mr.O onwards Flex never beat Ronnie because Ronnie got too good. They don't just beat each other back and forth, Ronnie was in his own league from 1998 the judges DID go with Flex's name in round one (and Nasser's) over Ronnie, then they saw they made a mistake.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You argue pointless things. Ronnie beat Flex 6 times and Flex beat Ronnie 6 times? From the 1998 Mr.O onwards Flex never beat Ronnie because Ronnie got too good. They don't just beat each other back and forth, Ronnie was in his own league from 1998 the judges DID go with Flex's name in round one (and Nasser's) over Ronnie, then they saw they made a mistake.

No I don't you claimed he was overlooked in the first round , how is that pointless? in fact that is the point , he was compared 9 times in the first round. You have to know this.

Ronnie came into his own in 98 and Flex was on the down-slide by then , see his subsequent placings. Maybe Ronnie was marked down in the firs round because of the bitch tits , should the best built man on the planet have breasts? Maybe Flex was eons better in the symmetry round and started to fade in the subsequent rounds while Ronnie got sharper. all semantics because in the end it's still a close contest regardless of what rounds Ronnie won