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Author Topic: Obama press conf. today said that war in Afganistan will End in 2014  (Read 1126 times)
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« on: January 11, 2013, 03:18:41 PM »

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/11/obama-hedges-us-afghan-presence-after-2014/



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WASHINGTON, Jan. 11 (UPI) -- President Barack Obama says Afghan forces will take over security this year and the war in Afghanistan "will come to a responsible end" by the end of next year.

Speaking at the White House Friday following his meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Obama said U.S. troops "will continue to fight alongside Afghans, when needed."

"But let me say it as plainly as I can: Starting this spring, our troops will have a different mission -- training, advising, assisting Afghan forces," he said.

Obama said that milestone would be "another step toward full Afghan sovereignty."

"And by the end of next year, 2014, the transition will be complete -- Afghans will have full responsibility for their security, and this war will come to a responsible end."

Karzai said he and Obama agreed on "the complete return of detention centers and detainees to Afghan sovereignty and that this will be implemented soon after my return to Afghanistan."

He said the White House meeting also produced an agreement to include Taliban officials to engage in direct peace talks with Afghan and Pakistani representatives, "where we'll be trying our best, together with the United States and our other allies, to return peace and stability to Afghanistan as soon as possible."

Before the news conference, the White House issued a statement saying the two leaders "discussed a strategic vision for a secure, stable and prosperous Afghanistan and reaffirmed the U.S.-Afghanistan Enduring Strategic Partnership Agreement signed in May 2012."

Obama and Karzai reviewed security and economic operations as well as preparations for what the White House called "free, fair, inclusive, and democratic elections in 2014."

The discussions also covered threats in the region and U.S. support for "long-term economic and social development" in Afghanistan.

The White House statement said Afghan National Security Forces have exceeded expectations on assuming lead combat operation responsibility, and currently lead about 80 percent of operations. Afghan troops are expected to increase the number to 90 percent in February and the International Security Assistance Force mission is expected to shift from combat to support by mid-2013.

"At the time of the milestone, most unilateral U.S. combat operations should end, with U.S. forces pulling back their patrols from Afghan villages," the White House said.

The White House meeting came one day after Karzai met with U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who said Afghanistan is almost able to secure itself.

"After a long and difficult past, we finally are, I believe, at the last chapter of establishing a sovereign Afghanistan that can govern and secure itself for the future," Panetta told a news conference with Karzai at the Pentagon after the two met.

"We've come a long way toward a shared goal of establishing a nation that you and we can be proud of, one that never again becomes a safe haven for terrorism," Panetta said.

Karzai, by contrast, said his Islamic republic -- which borders Pakistan and Iran among other countries and still faces attacks by the Taliban insurgency -- clearly needs U.S. help.

The New York Times reported Friday the two leaders appeared far apart on how many U.S. troops would stay in Afghanistan after 2014.

Karzai appears to want as many as 15,000 troops to advise Afghan security forces in their fight against the Taliban and carry out raids against al-Qaida, the Times said.

Ben Rhodes, the White House deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, said Tuesday the administration was mulling a much smaller number -- possibly even withdrawing troops entirely in 2014, provided U.S. officials were convinced Afghanistan could stand on its own.

Karzai is also hoping the United States will supply the Afghan army with tanks, fighter planes and other military hardware, the Times said.

Karzai expressed his differing expectations from Washington's when at the news conference with Panetta Thursday.

"Afghanistan will, with the help that you provide, be able to provide security to its people and to protect its borders, so Afghanistan would not ever again be threatened by terrorists from across our borders," Karzai said.
Topics: Hamid Karzai, Leon Panetta, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Ben Rhodes, War in Afghanistan
 
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 03:20:25 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 03:20:30 PM »

  Just like he closed GB (Gitmo)
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 03:22:08 PM »

The war ending don`t mean the troops will be coming home.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 03:23:51 PM »

The war ending don`t mean the troops will be coming home.


 Huh Huh  so he will have troops in afgan and not returning fire  Huh Huh
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 03:28:27 PM »

Troops are told to not offend the Afgahns and thus avoid violence - after all the soldier's ignorance is the cause they get shot.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 03:30:02 PM »

 Just like he closed GB
getbig is next on the list. once all the troops are pulled out, they will systematically raid each getbigger with the force of 1000 suns to destroy this mighty empire we've all built. GH15 was trying to prepare you bitches for the upcoming battle, but you've shunned your messiah. He held the key to our acension with his mighty kigtropins but it was you! you who have turned your back on your savior...for it was written in the biblia...
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 03:33:07 PM »

getbig is next on the list. once all the troops are pulled out, they will systematically raid each getbigger with the force of 1000 suns to destroy this mighty empire we've all built. GH15 was trying to prepare you bitches for the upcoming battle, but you've shunned your messiah. He held the key to our acension with his mighty kigtropins but it was you! you who have turned your back on your savior...for it was written in the biblia...

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 03:35:28 PM »

Did he do this with a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner?  The war may "end" but they'll still have thousands of troops there to protect the oil pipelines and opium trade.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 05:00:21 PM »

love how they keep saying this everyfew months "the war will end we will send home the troops soon"

do you people not remember all the times he said this in 2009 2010 2011 2012 lol that heme iron got yall nigs fucked up
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2013, 07:58:13 PM »

love how they keep saying this everyfew months "the war will end we will send home the troops soon"

do you people not remember all the times he said this in 2009 2010 2011 2012 lol that heme iron got yall nigs fucked up

Bush fuck up big time
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 08:05:16 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 08:13:50 PM »

Cool. Karzai is basically a nice-guy political-front for a tribal drug plutocracy.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 09:13:08 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2013, 09:22:46 PM »

The new rule is: If you're in office and you endorse military action, you and your family serve right on the front line in the infantry.

World peace.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 09:25:30 PM »

The new rule is: If you're in office and you endorse military action, you and your family serve right on the front line in the infantry.
have deferments as long as you can  yoink them out. 
World peace.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 09:26:28 PM »

Fixed

I think you broke it, actually.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2013, 09:50:55 PM »

Fixed

Well, I'm sure it's complicated.  At least our leaders understand these things.  Bless their cotton socks.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2013, 09:53:25 PM »

Well, I'm sure it's complicated.  At least our leaders understand these things.  Bless their cotton socks.
Complicated!? See, there's where you're wrong.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 10:01:50 PM »

The way things are sure confuses the shit outta me!
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2013, 07:03:39 AM »

barry soetoro aka barack obama is a muthafuckin puppet, this green skinned muthafucka dont make any fuckin calls, hes ran by goldman sachs and the illuminati elite who ordrer him what to do, when will you people wake up, this gay fagg is told what to say and what to do every milisecond of every day he lives. we real americans need to run him and his nwo pussy guys out of america once and for all.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2013, 07:45:15 AM »

"U.S. support for "long-term economic and social development" in Afghanistan"

Fuck that! Angry
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 09:34:15 AM »

end for the usa, yeah.

but peace?

mission accomplished?well, what was the mission, exactly?

It was to topple the the Taliban govt. in conjunction with the Northern Alliance and then destroy the Al Qaeda networks, gain intel etc.

That was accomplished.

The nation building that followed, well, that wasn't really accomplished.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 09:43:41 AM »


Oh and so another beast crawls back home.... and Afghanistan remains untamed.

British empire, Soviet Union, USA...... China in 2030?
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2013, 11:53:16 AM »

Oh and so another beast crawls back home.... and Afghanistan remains untamed.

British empire, Soviet Union, USA...... China in 2030?

a shit country with shit religion and people. they are hell bent on keeping their 1100AD way of life and will let their children die for it.

Nothing was accomplished there that couldnt have been done with air raids and drone strikes in 3 weeks with no western lives lost.

Just another money maker for the US military machine and its cronies
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