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« Reply #400 on: January 17, 2018, 05:37:02 AM »

I doubt it. They don't know jackshit about Star Wars.

They mistakenly thought they could slap that label on everything, every year, and it will automatically sell. The last Jedi was overtaken by Jumanji at the box office after 2 weeks of being released (On a holiday as well...). People used to go see SW's movies multiple times in theaters to pick up on all the nuances so they could formulate what could possible happen in future movies. even though the phantom menace was a slow piece of garbage, the Darth Maul scenes were the payoff. Now...

Box Office: 'Jumanji' Overtakes 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' on New Year's Day

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-jumanji-overtakes-star-wars-last-jedi-new-years-day-1070976

Phantom Menace Box Office History: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=starwars.htm

The Last Jedi Box Office History: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=starwars8.htm

Box office numbers are dropping fast.  There is a lack of repeat viewers.  It would be worse too, but most who heard the movie was a train wreck will still go see it anyway out of sheer curiosity.
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« Reply #401 on: January 17, 2018, 04:34:00 PM »

Yes, the box office drop demonstrates that the fans overwhelmingly don't like this movie just like a lot of us said.

After the Rotten Tomatoes controversy some people said that wasn't true and it was just a handfull of "butthurt fanboys" lashing out.

Bullshit.
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« Reply #402 on: January 18, 2018, 04:31:05 AM »

Oh boy....

‘Star Wars' Toy Sales Fall in 2017 as Movie-Tie Fatigue Sets In

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/-star-wars-toy-sales-fall-in-2017-as-movie-tie-fatigue-sets-in

Now toymakers’ big bets on movie tie-ins look downright bleak. Playthings based on the “Star Wars” saga -- the franchise that kicked off the whole phenomenon four decades ago -- were down in 2017 despite a new film, “Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” in December during the all-important holiday-shopping season.

Call it “Star Wars” burnout, or better yet “movie fatigue,” said Gerrick Johnson, an analyst for BMO Capital Markets. Hollywood and toymakers have fixated on toy-friendly films at a time when kids are increasingly turning to YouTube, Netflix and social media for entertainment.

After a decade without a “Star Wars” film, Disney has released three movies since December 2015, and another one is coming in May. The latest installment, “The Last Jedi,” didn’t include many new memorable characters beyond those introduced in the preceding film, Johnson said. That left fans looking for newness elsewhere this year, leading to weaker results than expected, he said.

U.S. sales of the brand’s toys slowed in late 2017, Drew Crum, an analyst for Stifel Nicolaus & Co., wrote in a note to clients last week. This was despite “Last Jedi” being the top-grossing film released in the U.S. last year at $596 million.

Adult collectors, who grew up with the brand, are still buying a lot of merchandise when the toys come out, but demand dies down afterward, according to Johnson.

That doesn’t bode well for Hasbro Inc., which has the main “Star Wars” toy partnership, or Jakks Pacific Inc., which has a secondary license. Jakks said it couldn’t comment on “Star Wars” sales, but that merchandise tied to “Moana,” another Disney film, “remains very strong.” Hasbro declined to comment.

The “Star Wars” performance could hinder Disney’s bid to revive growth at its consumer products division, where sales fell 13 percent to $4.83 billion for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30.
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« Reply #403 on: January 18, 2018, 04:49:22 AM »

Oh boy....

‘Star Wars' Toy Sales Fall in 2017 as Movie-Tie Fatigue Sets In

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/-star-wars-toy-sales-fall-in-2017-as-movie-tie-fatigue-sets-in

Now toymakers’ big bets on movie tie-ins look downright bleak. Playthings based on the “Star Wars” saga -- the franchise that kicked off the whole phenomenon four decades ago -- were down in 2017 despite a new film, “Star Wars: The Last Jedi,” in December during the all-important holiday-shopping season.

Call it “Star Wars” burnout, or better yet “movie fatigue,” said Gerrick Johnson, an analyst for BMO Capital Markets. Hollywood and toymakers have fixated on toy-friendly films at a time when kids are increasingly turning to YouTube, Netflix and social media for entertainment.

After a decade without a “Star Wars” film, Disney has released three movies since December 2015, and another one is coming in May. The latest installment, “The Last Jedi,” didn’t include many new memorable characters beyond those introduced in the preceding film, Johnson said. That left fans looking for newness elsewhere this year, leading to weaker results than expected, he said.

U.S. sales of the brand’s toys slowed in late 2017, Drew Crum, an analyst for Stifel Nicolaus & Co., wrote in a note to clients last week. This was despite “Last Jedi” being the top-grossing film released in the U.S. last year at $596 million.

Adult collectors, who grew up with the brand, are still buying a lot of merchandise when the toys come out, but demand dies down afterward, according to Johnson.

That doesn’t bode well for Hasbro Inc., which has the main “Star Wars” toy partnership, or Jakks Pacific Inc., which has a secondary license. Jakks said it couldn’t comment on “Star Wars” sales, but that merchandise tied to “Moana,” another Disney film, “remains very strong.” Hasbro declined to comment.

The “Star Wars” performance could hinder Disney’s bid to revive growth at its consumer products division, where sales fell 13 percent to $4.83 billion for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30.

It's much worse than this article suggests.  

Go into the toy section at any of these stores... there are shelves and shelves of these SW toys.  Nothing is selling.  The cost of these toys is way too high.  $150 for a Millennium Falcon?  $250 for a Walker?  

Pure greed.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNAji3lIGE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNAji3lIGE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqsiuPxfn8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqsiuPxfn8</a>
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« Reply #404 on: January 18, 2018, 05:13:51 AM »

It's much worse than this article suggests.  

Go into the toy section at any of these stores... there are shelves and shelves of these SW toys.  Nothing is selling.  The cost of these toys is way too high.  $150 for a Millennium Falcon?  $250 for a Walker?  

Pure greed.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNAji3lIGE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNAji3lIGE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqsiuPxfn8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqsiuPxfn8</a>

Yes, I went into Toys'R'Us (another discussion for another day) after x-mas to get my nephew a birthday gift and ventured over to the LEGO section. The going price rate for those Star wars items has skyrocketed 500%+ since I was a kid. absolutely insane.

See this $23.00,  87-piece set; the thing is tiny:

https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Resistance-X-Wing-Fighter-75125/dp/B019IR53CU/ref=sr_1_8?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1516281099&sr=1-8&keywords=star+wars+lego
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« Reply #405 on: January 18, 2018, 05:48:17 AM »

Yes, I went into Toys'R'Us (another discussion for another day) after x-mas to get my nephew a birthday gift and ventured over to the LEGO section. The going price rate for those Star wars items has skyrocketed 500%+ since I was a kid. absolutely insane.

See this $23.00,  87-piece set; the thing is tiny:

https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Resistance-X-Wing-Fighter-75125/dp/B019IR53CU/ref=sr_1_8?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1516281099&sr=1-8&keywords=star+wars+lego


I understand the currency inflation since 1978, but these prices are out of reach for lower income parents/kids. 

Disney will still make money because the SW fanboys bought enough toys (at full price) during the first few weeks after the movie was released. 

I'm still surprised at what Lucas sold the Star Wars franchise for.  He probably could've got twice what he was paid. 

I know they won't, but I would really love to see Disney go bankrupt.
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« Reply #406 on: January 18, 2018, 06:04:13 AM »

That price isn't a Star Wars dynamic, it's a Lego dynamic.  They've been off the charts expensive for some time.
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