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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2013, 01:44:58 PM »

Read the entire second amendment then understand what it really means.

DC v. Heller  
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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2013, 01:52:45 PM »

What about the millions of Americans (and people from around the world for that matter) that don't own guns, but realize it's an essential right?

Huh

I don't carry a gun, I don't have any loaded guns around me.  I don't go to the range (there's not one in my city).  I don't have anything to do with gun culture.  

I support the second amendment, like I support all other limits on the government.  We need to limit government even further, not individuals.  
Governments are far from the greatest problem, they are somewhat partially accountable. and they can become as benign as we make it.   What's not benign (what's extremely harmful, in fact) is business power, which is highly concentrated and, by now, largely
transnational. Business power is very far from benign and it's completely unaccountable. It's a totalitarian system that has an enormous effect on our lives. It's also the main reason why the government isn't benign.   As for guns being the way to respond to this, that's outlandish. First of all, this is not a weak Third World country. If people have pistols, the government has tanks. If people get tanks, the government has atomic weapons.  There's no way to deal with these issues by violent force, even if you think that that's morally legitimate.

 Guns in the hands of American citizens are not going to make the country more benign. They're going to make it more brutal, ruthless and destructive. So while one can recognize the motivation that lies behind some of the opposition to gun control, I think it's sadly misguided.

And it's obvious their are millions of people who support the second amendment, as long as they realise by doing this, they endanger their children to a far greater extent than if they supported strict gun control.  They either support a humans right to safety and security and let go of their guns or they support their right to own guns and further lessen other peoples right to safety and security and make society far more dangerous.  Unfortunately, due to Americas (sick) culture, they won't be able to have both, they won't be able to have guns and safety and security, this has been evident for decades, it is just a case of collective denial that prevents change.

Another solution could be heavily subsidised penis enlargements for those who willingly hand over their guns, surely the real thing will be a better solution than just simply owning deadly phallic objects like guns.
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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2013, 01:53:21 PM »

DC v. Heller  

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]


well regulated militia.  Not crazy people
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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2013, 01:56:49 PM »

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]


well regulated militia.  Not crazy people

Well, when you're appointed to the Supreme Court let me know!  Grin

Take a peek at all the State Constitutions that guarantee an individuals right to bear arms.

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"That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state."

"A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use."

"All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state. "
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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2013, 02:00:00 PM »

Well, when you're appointed to the Supreme Court let me know!  Grin

Take a peek at all the State Constitutions that guarantee an individuals right to bear arms.

i.e.
"That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state."

"A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use."

"All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defence of themselves, their families, their property and the state. "
Who cares what the laws say, it's about doing what's right.  I can't stand those people who say,  the law states I can act like an arsehole, so I am going to act like an arsehole.  It used to be law to keep slaves and rape your wife, and all other types of crazy shit!  Laws don't equal RIGHT!
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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2013, 02:14:01 PM »

Government has killed millions more innocent people than armed civilians ever will.  The naivety here is astounding.
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« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »

Who cares what the laws say, it's about doing what's right.  I can't stand those people who say,  the law states I can act like an arsehole, so I am going to act like an arsehole.  It used to be law to keep slaves and rape your wife, and all other types of crazy shit!  Laws don't equal RIGHT!
You know, there is this thing called jail for people who think "Who cares what the laws say."
Usually said people don't like to follow said laws, and end up getting arrested.
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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2013, 02:29:10 PM »

You know, there is this thing called jail for people who think "Who cares what the laws say."
Usually said people don't like to follow said laws, and end up getting arrested.
So what, I would rather do what is right than follow corrupt or dangerous laws, if I was forced to keep slaves by law, or if I was forced to own a gun by law, or if I laws forced me to be segregated etc etc.. I would simply refuse.  I have no problem with being arrested for not following dangerous, bigoted or corrupt  laws.  And odd that gun nutters make such assertions, they are the first to admit they won't follow the law if certain gun control measures are introduced, one of their slogans openly admits to being willing to become an OUTLAW!
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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2013, 04:23:03 PM »

Who cares what the laws say, it's about doing what's right.  I can't stand those people who say,  the law states I can act like an arsehole, so I am going to act like an arsehole.  It used to be law to keep slaves and rape your wife, and all other types of crazy shit!  Laws don't equal RIGHT!

quit takin it up the shitter you sound full of cum
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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2013, 04:27:41 PM »

hes about one thing, loving islam, blacks and hating israel,
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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2013, 04:34:16 PM »

Look at the lot of you! You sound like a bunch of Frakking poosays concerned about sand in their cooze. Wake up! By the Eternal! I should take the whole lot of you and hang you out to dry. Arguing about the SooperBowel and picking up highschool girls. You all look like a bunch of slack jawed fag.ots the whole lot of you. You can still be a man in this day and age and it certainly isn't done over fantasizing about 20 year old "sports" heros and owning guns. Take a little bit of incentive here. Read a book, exercise, become a leader in your chosen field. This is what makes a man. Not having a sissy fight over the internet.
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« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2013, 11:35:54 PM »

quit takin it up the shitter you sound full of cum
Another getbigger obsessed with homosexuality, always posting about shitters, and cum, and all things gay.  Just come out of the closet already, your repressed homosexuality is embarrassing!
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« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2013, 12:14:19 AM »

Another getbigger obsessed with homosexuality, always posting about shitters, and cum, and all things gay.  Just come out of the closet already, your repressed homosexuality is embarrassing!

thanks for the analysis Sigi.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2013, 02:12:08 AM »

thanks for the analysis Sigi.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2013, 02:43:38 AM »

Government has killed millions more innocent people than armed civilians ever will.  The naivety here is astounding.
Very true. But this fact then also invalidates the very premise behind the second amendment: the people keeping their government in check. Because indeed: the people will, in virtually all cases, lose.
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« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2013, 03:07:05 AM »

Very true. But this fact then also invalidates the very premise behind the second amendment: the people keeping their government in check. Because indeed: the people will, in virtually all cases, lose.

History (even recently) shows us that you're dead wrong.
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« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2013, 03:45:12 AM »

History (even recently) shows us that you're dead wrong.
Without support of the army revolutions rarely succeed. And support of the army is usually predicated on economics.
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« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2013, 09:30:38 AM »

Very true. But this fact then also invalidates the very premise behind the second amendment: the people keeping their government in check. Because indeed: the people will, in virtually all cases, lose.

The people always win if they go into one direction - the people is the state from top to bottom unless we're speaking of a world with T800s roaming the malls.
The problem lies within the people's interest and their will to stand up for what they think is important.
One of the best ways to vote and stand up for your right without having to take damage is to consume in a thoughtful manner knowing details about origin, resources and possible effect of consumption.
Large malls with stupid people and foreign goods destroyed freedom - not the Taliban or Al Jazeera.
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« Reply #68 on: February 06, 2013, 09:39:16 AM »

What adapts, survives, whatever the way it adapted; by using force , by cooperating, by fleeing or by submiting.

The origin of men feminization is...peace times. Fortunately, new wars are coming. Funny animals , those humans.
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« Reply #69 on: February 06, 2013, 12:37:50 PM »

Being in war doesn't define manly.  Neither does waking up, driving an hour, sitting in front of a computer, driving home, picking up your kid from day care, watching Dora, making dinner, eating, jerking off to porn, going to bed.  Men have become bitches.
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« Reply #70 on: February 06, 2013, 01:10:50 PM »

Bill Maher is a puss himself.

Sometimes too smart for his own good. He, like Joe Rogan are supposedly bi-sexual.
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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »

Sometimes too smart for his own good. He, like Joe Rogan are supposedly bi-sexual.

Maher probably didn't write it all.  It is for a show, probably a team of 20 writers putting together material for him.  He is a smart guy though
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« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2013, 01:41:40 PM »

Sometimes too smart for his own good. He, like Joe Rogan are supposedly bi-sexual.

Joe and Bill got married last year.
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« Reply #73 on: February 06, 2013, 01:43:45 PM »

How to be a man, from guy that dated Superhead.
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