test cyp for life?

[ignorance]

We'll you can, but it's too late I'm afraid.......you've already dipped in the pool by taking Test essentially turning you over to the "Dark Side" of the force.

Once you made the conscious decision to inject the Cypionate you crossed over and there's no going back, cdog.

This "dog" has been let off the chain......

The days of puppychow and chewtoys are over.

Shit funny.


DIV

[adren]

She said testosterone cypionate was not an anabolic steroid? LMAO

I say enjoy the 'scripts' you get and ride it out for awhile. Make the most of it.

[Mr.Protein]

cdog,
Funny you should mention neck aches,  I occasionally have some discomfort in my neck/upper trap area.  I don't attribute it to my Testosterone HRT - poor form doing shrugs or upright rows is probably to blame.

When I was doing more Cypionate than prescribed I did NOT notice significantly greater benefits than doing the prescribed amount (300 mgs. every 2 weeks).  This was MY personal experience.

I did 500 mgs. every 6 days for 14 weeks and I did gain some weight and felt pretty good. When using this amount I also used Femara to deal with elevated estrogen.  I'm sure this amount suppressed me and I was running on exogenous Testosterone only.  At the lower,  prescribed amount, however, I may also be producing some Test. naturally... hard to tell.  I get my Testosterone level checked about 3 times a year and I would have to have it checked more frequently to be certain.

The biggest difference, for me, between the two doses has been the amount of water I retain.  I can hold up to 10 pounds more water doing the larger dose .  I am much leaner and tighter when I use the prescribed amount that my HRT treatment plan calls for .  I have a doctor's appointment in a few weeks and I plan on discussing the risks and benefits of Nandrolone for someone like myself who uses these hormones more conventionally in a legally prescribed therapeutic manner.  Good luck.

[DIVISION]

I have a doctor's appointment in a few weeks and I plan on discussing the risks and benefits of Nandrolone for someone like myself who uses these hormones more conventionally in a legally prescribed therapeutic manner.  Good luck.

I hope you are able to convince your Doc in prescribing that Deca.

I think you should look up the studies they've done on Deca and AIDS patients and print them out for reference.  It can't hurt.

If you get it, make sure you get him to write you for at least 200MG ew......if not more.

I would go for 400MG ew, that way you have leeway in case you want to go higher.



DIV

[Mr.Protein]

Thanks Div,
I was also thinking about discussing the use of Stanozolol with him.  I am a little apprehensive about using it though.  From what I've read here and elsewhere it is somewhat more toxic to the liver even in injectable form.

Cycling on and off it for short periods of time might be OK for some (especially you younger studs) but my time on would be MUCH longer.  I'm now at the stage of the game where I won't be coming off - on something forever at a lower dose is the name of the game for me now.  Enjoy being young and don't ever take it for granted - getting old is a real b*tch.

Thanks for all the great advice and info you've selflessly provided me and countless others.

[DIVISION]

Thanks Div,
I was also thinking about discussing the use of Stanozolo with him.  I am a little apprehensive about using it though.  From what I've read here and elsewhere it is somewhat more toxic to the liver even in injectable form.

Cycling on and off it for short periods of time might be OK for some (especially you younger studs) but my time on would be MUCH longer.  I'm now at the stage of the game where I won't be coming off - on something forever at a lower dose is the name of the game for me now.  Enjoy being young and don't ever take it for granted - getting old is a real b*tch.

Thanks for all the great advice and info you've selflessly provided me and countless others.

Your doc won't be prescibing you Winstrol.  It's only still available for the treatment of angioedema.  It has no other medical use as of right now.  If HRT is the option, a doc will prescribe Testosterone.  If the condition is wasting from AIDS or some other disease, the doc will prescribe Deca or Anavar.  The odds of him prescribing Winstrol are very low and it only comes in 2MG tabs, so him prescribing a daily dosage of 50MG would look very strange considering they come in bottles of 100.  One bottle would last you two doses.  This will not happen.

Test, Deca....maybe Anavar.....

As is you are going to have to do alot of convincing to have him prescribe Deca.

Good luck on this.






DIV

[Mr.Protein]

Again, Thanks

[suckmymuscle]

I went to a doc finally after feeling a little bummed.  I am early 30s but showed very low test level (278).  The doc put me on 200 mg test cyp and in another 2 weeks 300 mg.  After about a month my test level was about 750.
Since that time, the doc gave me a prescription for my own gear and  I have been taking 300 mg (1.5 cc) test cyp every 10 days and have to tell you.... FEELING GOOD! 
I later went to a urologist and he told me that anyone can test low once or twice and I should consider gettting off for about 3 months and get re tested.... I said NO way.  Truth is I am really enjoying the gains.  I am working out 6 times a week and starting to get compliments even after eating anything and everything I want.. gotta love it.
The funny thing is, my original doctor (actually female nurse practitioner) told me test cypionate was not an anabolic steroid and I would not really benefit more than normal by working out and I would be on it for the rest of my life.  My results are telling me otherwise.  In addition, the pharmacist looked me in the eyes and said... "you are on the juice."
So here is my question I would really appreciate some advice...
1.  Am I truly on "the juice"?
2.  If so, what else should I do to keep from screwing up?
3.  Should I shut up and ride the gravy train as long as I can?
Thanks in advance for the tips.
 

  300 mg of T, every 10 days, will do shit for growth. At that dosage, you'd be better off with nandrolone or methenolone. T's anabolic effects, only starts to manifest, at 500+mg week.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[DIVISION]

  300 mg of T, every 10 days, will do shit for growth. At that dosage, you'd be better off with nandrolone or methenolone. T's anabolic effects, only starts to manifest, at 500+mg week.

Did you read the post, bro?

His doc put him on HRT, which is why it was 300MG Test 310d.

That's the point of HRT, to replace endogeneous testosterone, not give a surplus of it.



DIV

[skrill]

  300 mg of T, every 10 days, will do shit for growth. At that dosage, you'd be better off with nandrolone or methenolone. T's anabolic effects, only starts to manifest, at 500+mg week.
SUCKMYMUSCLE

That doesn't make sense,  I would think that anabolic effects of T will exist as long as you are using a dose higher than what you naturally produce.

[suckmymuscle]

That doesn't make sense,  I would think that anabolic effects of T will exist as long as you are using a dose higher than what you naturally produce.

  Nope. Men have 30 times more T than women, and that's why they have much larger muscles. T is the most anabolic of all steroids-yes, even more than oxymetholone-, but it's effects are dose-dependent. Up to 500 mg a week will incease fat-burning, but won't stimulate the androgen recepetors enough to cause a muscle-mass increase. At these doses, you're much better off taking nandrolone, methenolone or trenbolone, which are all much stronger stimulators, of the androgen receptors than T. However, 250-500mg, a week, is awesome for sex. You get boners that reach for the moon.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[DIVISION]

  Nope. Men have 30 times more T than women, and that's why they have much larger muscles. T is the most anabolic of all steroids-yes, even more than oxymetholone-, but it's effects are dose-dependent. Up to 500 mg a week will incease fat-burning, but won't stimulate the androgen recepetors enough to cause a muscle-mass increase. At these doses, you're much better off taking nandrolone, methenolone or trenbolone, which are all much stronger stimulators, of the androgen receptors than T. However, 250-500mg, a week, is awesome for sex. You get boners that reach for the moon.

Testosterone is not the most anabolic of all AAS.  There are pure anabolics like Deca, Anavar, Primo that are almost purely anabolic with very little androgenic component to them.

Test has the best balance of Anabolic and Androgenic qualities because it is the body's natural hormone, but it's not the most anabolic.

I do agree about the sex theory though.

The best cycle strictly for sex:

500MG Test ew
.5MG Dostinex e5d
20MG Cialis ed
500IU HCG e3d




DIV

[skrill]

The best cycle strictly for sex:
500MG Test ew
.5MG Dostinex e5d
20MG Cialis ed
500IU HCG e3d
DIV

Damn I can't even imagine what all that would be like at once.
Sounds like a porn star combo to me.

[suckmymuscle]

Testosterone is not the most anabolic of all AAS.  There are pure anabolics like Deca, Anavar, Primo that are almost purely anabolic with very little androgenic component to them.
Test has the best balance of Anabolic and Androgenic qualities because it is the body's natural hormone, but it's not the most anabolic.
I do agree about the sex theory though.
The best cycle strictly for sex:
500MG Test ew
.5MG Dostinex e5d
20MG Cialis ed
500IU HCG e3d
DIV

  T IS the most anabolic steroid. When I used the word "anabolic", I was refering to general anabolism, not the aility to stimulare the steroid receptor. When it comes to this, the most potent androgen is stanozolol, followed by trenbolone. T is the roid that causes the greatest OVERALL mass and strengh increase. While oxymetholone is more powerful than T at this, it's liver toxicity makes it impractical for long-term use. Of the 'roids that get you really, really big, T is the safest-and thus the one you can stay the longest at.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[DIVISION]

  T IS the most anabolic steroid. When I used the word "anabolic", I was refering to general anabolism, not the aility to stimulare the steroid receptor. When it comes to this, the most potent androgen is stanozolol, followed by trenbolone. T is the roid that causes the greatest OVERALL mass and strengh increase. While oxymetholone is more powerful than T at this, it's liver toxicity makes it impractical for long-term use. Of the 'roids that get you really, really big, T is the safest-and thus the one you can stay the longest at.

I still don't agree.  When you are talking pure anabolic therapeutic value; Deca, Anavar have a higher threshold for lean muscle mass.  Testosterone is easy on the system because is endogenous to the body, however that doesn't equate it to being the most "anabolic".  It's equally anabolic and androgenic, naturally due to it's function in the body.  Look it up in Anabolics 2005 by William Llewellyn.  Each drug has a profile with it's Anabolic: Androgenic ratio. 

Test is not the most anabolic.

Recognize.




DIV

[cdog]

When I was doing more Cypionate than prescribed I did NOT notice significantly greater benefits than doing the prescribed amount (300 mgs. every 2 weeks).  

Protein, I am on 150 mg per week also and I too am seeing good muscle results at this amount.  In fact, over the past month, I have only been working out 2-3 times per week for 30 minutes each time and I am STILL seeing good muscle mass. -Pretty cool.

[Logan32]

Sorry a little late in this discussion but isn't anyform of test technically an androgenic steroid? I amnot sure but I think they are broken up between anabolic/androgenic some steroids have both anabolic and androgenic properties.... Anyway I kind of remember that from soem classes I had in college. I could be way off base but that is what your nurse could be refering to...

[Mr.Protein]

Sorry a little late in this discussion but isn't anyform of test technically an androgenic steroid? I amnot sure but I think they are broken up between anabolic/androgenic some steroids have both anabolic and androgenic properties.... Anyway I kind of remember that from soem classes I had in college. I could be way off base but that is what your nurse could be refering to...

You are correct.  Testosterone, regardless of the esther or lack thereof (suspension), is very androgenic.

Read DIVISIONS's posts earlier in this thread for a comprehensive answer to your question

[Mr.Protein]

Protein, I am on 150 mg per week also and I too am seeing good muscle results at this amount.  In fact, over the past month, I have only been working out 2-3 times per week for 30 minutes each time and I am STILL seeing good muscle mass. -Pretty cool.

cdog,
Life is good when that Test. is a flowin and you is a growin

[DIVISION]

Life is good when that Test. is a flowin and you is a growin

^Word.

Everything seems fresh and the weights feel like nothing.  The women are there for pleasure.  Life is there for the taking.

Dominate.





DIV