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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2013, 05:03:26 PM »
Quote from: HockeyFightFan on March 16, 2013, 03:38:19 PM
Not to take anything away from Diaz, but beating the current version of BJ Penn isn't that big a deal.

True... but it wasn't that long ago that Penn put a beating on Diego Sanchez?

And Diaz beat Penn with brutal striking ......GSP had a tarnished win over Penn due to his body being smothered in Vaseline?  UFC have since banned this option ...... and rightly so.  
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2013, 05:08:40 PM »
Quote from: Grant_Michaels on March 16, 2013, 05:03:26 PM
True... but it wasn't that long ago that Penn put a beating on Diego Sanchez?

And Diaz beat Penn with brutal striking ......GSP had a tarnished win over Penn due to his body being smothered in Vaseline?  UFC have since banned this option ...... and rightly so.  

Penn's camp made up the Vaseline story after GSP manhandled BJ
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2013, 05:14:33 PM »
Quote from: HockeyFightFan on March 16, 2013, 05:08:40 PM
Penn's camp made up the Vaseline story after GSP manhandled BJ

Well, they did have footage of GSP's corner applying it to his back? It was all on film?  Dana White was pretty mad about it?

That said....... I am sure GSP would have still beaten Penn regardless.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2013, 05:42:46 PM »
anyone else think gsp looks extremely skinny for this fight?   

that is one way ufc manipulates the outcome of fights- notify the fighter he wants to lose that he will definately be drug tested after the fight.

look at how all the Pride guys looked when they came over.  that way, they are way down on power and aggression and lose. so dana white can declare how much better ufc is than pride.

i'd hate to say it, but i see it as a sign of gsp losing.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2013, 05:45:10 PM »
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2013, 06:00:27 PM »
Quote from: Grant_Michaels on March 16, 2013, 05:14:33 PM
Well, they did have footage of GSP's corner applying it to his back? It was all on film?  Dana White was pretty mad about it?

That said....... I am sure GSP would have still beaten Penn regardless.

Grant, my biggest issue with Penn is how he wasted a good portion of his potential.

He was hugely talented, but his cardio and physicality always seemed sub-par.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2013, 06:00:46 PM »
No Links yet? What time do the fights start?
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2013, 06:02:52 PM »
Quote from: HockeyFightFan on March 16, 2013, 06:00:27 PM
Grant, my biggest issue with Penn is how he wasted a good portion of his potential.

He was hugely talented, but his cardio and physicality always seemed sub-par.

I have to agree with you on these points.  It's kinda sad actually.  He should retire.....
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2013, 06:04:18 PM »
Quote from: hazbin on March 16, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
anyone else think gsp looks extremely skinny for this fight?  

that is one way ufc manipulates the outcome of fights- notify the fighter he wants to lose that he will definately be drug tested after the fight.

look at how all the Pride guys looked when they came over.  that way, they are way down on power and aggression and lose. so dana white can declare how much better ufc is than pride.

i'd hate to say it, but i see it as a sign of gsp losing.

he always looks like a stick when cutting weight. He'll be 185-190 around fight time and filled out again
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2013, 06:30:13 PM »
Quote from: hazbin on March 16, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
anyone else think gsp looks extremely skinny for this fight?   

that is one way ufc manipulates the outcome of fights- notify the fighter he wants to lose that he will definately be drug tested after the fight.

look at how all the Pride guys looked when they came over.  that way, they are way down on power and aggression and lose. so dana white can declare how much better ufc is than pride.

i'd hate to say it, but i see it as a sign of gsp losing.
come on bro, you of all people should know that he is skinny struggling to make weight, you know how flat you can be when you cut 12-13lb over a 24 h period, the guy will be 182-183 tonight and will be just as big as he is in any other fight.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2013, 06:31:24 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on March 16, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
To be fair, while Nick's resume might seem mediocre, there is MMA outside of the UFC (although most folks wouldn't care to look into it).

Here are a few other guys Nick has defeated that while not as remotely popular as a GSP, are both seasoned and well-known fighters in the world of MMA:

Chris Lytle - One of the veterans of the sport, now at the age of 38 he is retired, but had a solid record against top fighters.

Robbie Lawler (20-9) - A solid fighter with many good fights under his belt.

Josh Neer (33-13) - Everyone knows Josh and he isn't a walk in the park come fight time.

Gleison Tibau (26-9) - Part of American top team with a killer guard and some wicked submission capacity.

Frank Shamrock (23-10) - Frank is a solid fighter and unlike his brother, he doesn't believe in taking a fall.

Hayato Sakurai (37-12) - Solid fighter.

Paul Daley (31-12) - Was one of the most talented fighters in Strikeforce.

BJ Penn - The legend.

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P.S. I still believe this fight will go to GSP, but I don't underestimate Diaz. While I don't think Diaz is a superb fighter (because he is not), he does have solid JiuJitsu and a boxing technique that very few in the UFC can compare with. GSP is just a more complete fighter that knows how to utilize all the tools he brings to the octagon.
You forgot Takanori Gomi - Nick beat him up and then submitted him, but the decision was overturned because Nick got done for weed.  But nobody considers Gomi a can.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2013, 06:37:25 PM »
Quote from: HockeyFightFan on March 16, 2013, 06:00:27 PM
Grant, my biggest issue with Penn is how he wasted a good portion of his potential.

He was hugely talented, but his cardio and physicality always seemed sub-par.

I think Penn has a god complex and even if he juiced up and busted his ass in the gym, he didn't have the athletic physique of what the a lot of the guys 2day have. He'll have diabetes 10 years after he retires.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2013, 06:38:22 PM »
Quote from: V Man on March 16, 2013, 06:00:46 PM
No Links yet? What time do the fights start?


This^^^needs some links without downloads. The Hierarchy is watching ;)
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2013, 06:57:35 PM »
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM »
Quote from: HockeyFightFan on March 16, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Ontario or England?

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Ontario  8)


I have Hendricks knocking out Condit, I know it`s a stretch but Hendricks has the hardest punch in the UFC right now.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2013, 07:34:57 PM »
First fight, boring.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2013, 07:37:23 PM »
Nosfaratu got his ass kicked.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2013, 07:43:42 PM »
Pre-req for being a white guy in MMA: get a big ass chest tat and cover your arms/back in them as well
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2013, 07:53:00 PM »
Another snoozer.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2013, 08:01:00 PM »
GSP's fights have been so friggin boring over the past few years.   I can't even remember the last time he "finished" a fight.   Most all his fights go to the Judges decision. 
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2013, 08:02:43 PM »
Quote from: E-Kul on March 16, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
You forgot Takanori Gomi - Nick beat him up and then submitted him, but the decision was overturned because Nick got done for weed.  But nobody considers Gomi a can.

Good point!

Takanori Gomi has been a killer for a long time and Nick beat the shit out of him.

Like I said, while my mind says GSP will take it by way of the judges' decision, Nick could provide a major upset.

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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2013, 08:06:57 PM »
Is the UFC getting boring?
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2013, 08:14:11 PM »
I got that it will probably once again be a over hyped boring ass fight like almost all the rest. Thank goodness I watch it for free streaming.
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2013, 08:18:13 PM »
Hierarchy fukced me...Got a conduit virus that took over my home page from firstrow link. urgggg!!!
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Re: MMA - Diaz Versus GSP, Who Ya Got?
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2013, 08:22:24 PM »
Ooh. Good fight.
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