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« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2013, 02:26:54 PM »

Exactly. It's a refurbished older carrier from Russia (or India, can't quite remember.) and it's still undergoing see trials and integration. It would last all of 60min if the Chinese were crazy enough to deploy it.

And total troop numbers are kind of meaningless. Logistics, transportation etc. would limit the amount the Chinese could bring to bear in a conflict such as this.

They, and the Russians have airbases nearby and I'm sure their nuclear submarines would not be far off either.

Of course, it depends on whether they would back the North Koreans anyway.

Chinese 'peace keeping' troops could also immediately swarm across the borders.
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« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2013, 02:54:29 PM »

They, and the Russians have airbases nearby and I'm sure their nuclear submarines would not be far off either.

Of course, it depends on whether they would back the North Koreans anyway.

Chinese 'peace keeping' troops could also immediately swarm across the borders.

It was Russian ship, Chinese pilots still could not master lending on it  Tongue
North Korean Air "Force" is still using old Soviet era build biplanes  Grin
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« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2013, 03:20:25 PM »

Perhaps NK is behind the proliferation of fast food establishment across the U.S., and their plan is for the population to eat themselves to death. Seems to be working thus far. Very crafty.
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« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2013, 03:49:51 PM »

Gulp...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/world/asia/north-korea-us-threats/index.html

"(CNN) -- North Korea's leader has signed off on a plan to prepare rockets to be on standby for firing at U.S. targets, including the U.S. mainland and military bases in the Pacific and in South Korea, state media reported.
In a meeting with military leaders early Friday, Kim Jung Un "said he has judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation," the state-run KCNA news agency reported.
"If they make a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces, the KPA should mercilessly strike the U.S. mainland, their stronghold, their military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea, he said," KCNA said.
The U.S. decision to fly B-2 spirit bombers over South Korea in military exercises was "an ultimatum that they will ignite a nuclear war at any cost on the Korean Peninsula," the North Korean state news agency said."
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« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2013, 08:37:59 AM »

http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/03/29/north-koreas-stealth-free-response-to-b-2-runs/


North Korea’s Stealth-Free Response to B-2 Runs



The announcement that two B-2 stealth bombers made test runs over South Korea on Thursday clearly triggered alarm in North Korea, where dictator Kim Jong Eun chaired a late-night meeting of military top brass to discuss the U.S. show of force, according to state media.

There Mr. Kim signed off on a plan to strike at U.S. bases in the Pacific, South Korea and the U.S. mainland, the report said, and declared that the “time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists.” As Pyongyang did in announcing earlier that it has those targets lined up, it inserted a conditional clause: It will hit back if the U.S. makes ”a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces.”






To ensure that the message that it’s really very serious about hitting the U.S. gets out, North Korea also released a couple of photos of the meeting that show a map titled “U.S. Mainland Strike Plan” and what are presumably projected flight paths for missiles to Hawaii and the U.S. mainland. (It may take a few more years for North Korea to develop missiles that can actually complete the projected routes.)

The website nknews.org has a good analysis of the map and also notes that the picture in which it appears was carried by the North’s biggest newspaper, the Rodong Sinmun, suggesting it is intended to persuade a domestic audience that the regime has a plan for striking the U.S.

The meeting reportedly started after midnight, which suggests state media worked through the night to get its coverage out—a demonstration of how the North Korean propaganda operation has upped its game in recent years. News of major events now often comes the same day, rather than a day later as used to be the case.

The Korean-language report was published at 4:43 a.m. local time, with the English-language version (headlined “Kim Jong Un Convenes Operation Meeting, Finally Examines and Ratifies Plan for Firepower Strike”) following at 6:50.

North Korea watcher Michael Madden, who runs the blog North Korea Leadership Watch, says the increased speed of the media is one of the major changes he’s noticed since Kim Jong Eun took power.

“Kim Jong Eun has people under him who have studied abroad and that makes a difference,” he said. “There’s a faster response time in North Korean media to events and news in South Korea and elsewhere.”

South Korea media reported increased activity at North Korean missile sites on Friday, including vehicles moving to the Tongchang-ri base on the western coast, where North Korea launched its long-range rocket from in December. The Defense Ministry in Seoul said it couldn’t confirm the reports.

Meanwhile in central Pyongyang, the Associated Press reported, there was a staple of North Korean staged seething: a rally of thousands of people, with timeless chants including “Death to the U.S. imperialists.”

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« Reply #80 on: March 29, 2013, 10:42:23 AM »

http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/03/29/north-koreas-stealth-free-response-to-b-2-runs/


North Korea’s Stealth-Free Response to B-2 Runs



The announcement that two B-2 stealth bombers made test runs over South Korea on Thursday clearly triggered alarm in North Korea, where dictator Kim Jong Eun chaired a late-night meeting of military top brass to discuss the U.S. show of force, according to state media.

There Mr. Kim signed off on a plan to strike at U.S. bases in the Pacific, South Korea and the U.S. mainland, the report said, and declared that the “time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists.” As Pyongyang did in announcing earlier that it has those targets lined up, it inserted a conditional clause: It will hit back if the U.S. makes ”a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces.”






To ensure that the message that it’s really very serious about hitting the U.S. gets out, North Korea also released a couple of photos of the meeting that show a map titled “U.S. Mainland Strike Plan” and what are presumably projected flight paths for missiles to Hawaii and the U.S. mainland. (It may take a few more years for North Korea to develop missiles that can actually complete the projected routes.)

The website nknews.org has a good analysis of the map and also notes that the picture in which it appears was carried by the North’s biggest newspaper, the Rodong Sinmun, suggesting it is intended to persuade a domestic audience that the regime has a plan for striking the U.S.

The meeting reportedly started after midnight, which suggests state media worked through the night to get its coverage out—a demonstration of how the North Korean propaganda operation has upped its game in recent years. News of major events now often comes the same day, rather than a day later as used to be the case.

The Korean-language report was published at 4:43 a.m. local time, with the English-language version (headlined “Kim Jong Un Convenes Operation Meeting, Finally Examines and Ratifies Plan for Firepower Strike”) following at 6:50.

North Korea watcher Michael Madden, who runs the blog North Korea Leadership Watch, says the increased speed of the media is one of the major changes he’s noticed since Kim Jong Eun took power.

“Kim Jong Eun has people under him who have studied abroad and that makes a difference,” he said. “There’s a faster response time in North Korean media to events and news in South Korea and elsewhere.”

South Korea media reported increased activity at North Korean missile sites on Friday, including vehicles moving to the Tongchang-ri base on the western coast, where North Korea launched its long-range rocket from in December. The Defense Ministry in Seoul said it couldn’t confirm the reports.

Meanwhile in central Pyongyang, the Associated Press reported, there was a staple of North Korean staged seething: a rally of thousands of people, with timeless chants including “Death to the U.S. imperialists.”



In terms of actual force to take the South I think they could do it.

This of course excludes a preemptive strike from the US and whether China and Russia will back the North if they have occupied the South.

As I mentioned earlier, imagine if the Chinese then flood Korea with 'peace keeping' troops, then any American air strikes could kill Chinese troops as well.

There is no way the Chinese would want to have Americans on their borders even if the North falls and Americans have to occupy the country. This would mean American forces and their allies are then literally on their borders.
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