hey true adonis, have you watched dr lustigs lecture?

[animal1991]

Yah, that happens if you are accustomed to eating high calories, but you will adapt quick.  Quicker if you relax and fill those calories with whatever you like, whenever you like.

I don`t have any meal times or anything like that.  I just have a start time each day, which for me is 12:00 PM.  This means I have from 12:00PM and on to get my 2600 calories in.  This way you never overeat.

I think its very sensible to move your eating time to a later time, as I've found if I fast for 24H, I find it very hard to control my hunger when I break the fast and I sometimes binge, which then means I fasted for nothing.

[The True Adonis]

I think its very sensible to move your eating time to a later time, as I've found if I fast for 24H, I find it very hard to control my hunger when I break the fast and I sometimes binge, which then means I fasted for nothing.

Its not really later for me since that is about the time I wake up.  I have in the past, mixed IF with what I do, but there really was no advantage at all.  I am not discounting the cumulative effect fasting may have in other areas (such regulating jet lag, sleep patterns, controlling grehlin), but its irrelevant in my opinion for the short term and not essential in any way and really does not provide any visual benefit.

[el numero uno]

1. There are lean people in every corner who eat like I do.  Tons who don`t even lift weights actually.  I said if you like food and like to cook, obviously doing what I do is the best approach.  You can`t make Moravian Sugar Cake on other diets, now can you?

2. Its all about what I like to eat.  I LOVE food.  Love it.

3. I don`t fast.  I have an eating start time so I consume 2600 calories in a 24 hour period.  Its not fasting.  If you don`t have a start time and it varies everyday, you are going to be eating a whole lot more than what you think you are in a 24 hour period.  24 hour period is arbitrary as you can extend that time and calculate it weekly as some do, but for me, its not necessary and is better to do daily.  Do you not understand this?

1. Haha yeah of course there are lean teenagers that don't even lift weight, they also don't count calories and don't have any muscle, but most of them get fat when they become 22-23 years old.

2. Sure you do, and it works for you. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

3. Fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from all food, drink, or both, for a period of time

What, you wake up every day at 11:30 am? You wait to start eating period. And you have to feel hunger, right? If you're eating less calories that what you burn then you're going to be hungry, especially at single digits, especially if you're lean year round. You eat whatever you want but you still feel hunger. What's to brag about it?

[hangclean]

You don't need carbs to stay alive.

You are right about this, of course.....But, as far as contest prep dieting, every good bodybuilder i know over 200 pounds diets on low fat and some amount of carbs.  I have dieted on low carbs and on low fat and on low fat I always end up looking better.  I didn't use slin, either....so it cant be that.

[The True Adonis]

1. Haha yeah of course there are lean teenagers that don't even lift weight, they also don't count calories and don't have any muscle, but most of them get fat when they become 22-23 years old.

2. Sure you do, and it works for you. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

3. Fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from all food, drink, or both, for a period of time

What, you wake up every day at 11:30 pm? You wait to start eating period. And you have to feel hunger, right? If you're eating less calories that what you burn then you're going to be hungry, especially at single digits, especially if you're lean year round. You eat whatever you want but you still feel hunger. What's to brag about it?

1.    Pure Conjecture.

2. I don`t see how it would "not work for everyone" , especially someone who likes to eat varied foods of all kinds.

3.   By your definition everybody fasts even minute to minute, second to second, even if you want to take it literally as you have.

[The True Adonis]

1. Haha yeah of course there are lean teenagers that don't even lift weight, they also don't count calories and don't have any muscle, but most of them get fat when they become 22-23 years old.

2. Sure you do, and it works for you. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

3. Fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from all food, drink, or both, for a period of time

What, you wake up every day at 11:30 am? You wait to start eating period. And you have to feel hunger, right? If you're eating less calories that what you burn then you're going to be hungry, especially at single digits, especially if you're lean year round. You eat whatever you want but you still feel hunger. What's to brag about it?

Sometimes I wake up later even, Past 12PM.  Oh Noes!!!

I don`t really feel hungry unless I am doing some heavy duty planting and clearing, digging and raking outside.  You know, stuff that you are incapable of doing because someone like you will go catabolic.

[el numero uno]

1.    Pure Conjecture.

2. I don`t see how it would not work for anyone, especially someone who likes to eat varied foods of all kinds.

3.   By your definition everybody fasts even minute to minute, second to second, even if you want to take it literally as you have.

1. Just like your claims that everyone would get ripped on your diet. Pure Conjecture. At least what I said is what you usually see in real life, not claims from 5-10 guys on the internet that I've never seen happen in real life.

2. Then you would hear a lot of people supporting this diet, not just some guys that try to appear as groundbreakers or something.

3. Oh ok, you don't fast. But you still have to feel hunger on your diet, despite you "eat whatever you want". 

[el numero uno]

Sometimes I wake up later even, Past 12PM.  Oh Noes!!!

I don`t really feel hungry unless I am doing some heavy duty planting and clearing, digging and raking outside.  You know, stuff that you are incapable of doing because someone like you will go catabolic.

I don't recall ever said that, resorting to putting words in my mouth I see.

[The True Adonis]

1. Just like your claims that everyone would get ripped on your diet. Pure Conjecture. At least what I said is what you usually see in real life, not claims from 5-10 guys on the internet that I've never seen happen in real life.

2. Then you would hear a lot of people supporting this diet, not just some guys that try to appear as groundbreakers or something.

3. Oh ok, you don't fast. But you still have to feel hunger on your diet, despite you "eat whatever you want". 

1.  You just don`t know what to look for.    What makes you think everyone who is ripped or in shape is watching their carb intake, minding their "anabolic window" and making sure they are eating their 1.5 grams of protein everyday every 3 hours or whatever it is you believe a person who is in shape must do?

2. A lot of people do support it and there are variations of it so to speak.  I really don`t care what anyone does to be honest with you.

3. I don`t feel hunger honestly.  But even if I do or did, its not a bad thing.  Its unavoidable 100 percent of the time no matter what you eat or don`t eat.  If you control your grehlin, (something fasting can help people with-but its not necessary) it can be limited or reduced. The hungriest people I have EVER seen are those Fatsos on those shows that weigh 700 plus pounds.  They will complain how hungry they are yet they are eating 15,000 plus calories daily.  They are not lying when they say they are hungry either.  Hope this helps.

[el numero uno]

1.  You just don`t know what to look for.    What makes you think everyone who is ripped or in shape is watching their carb intake, minding their "anabolic window" and making sure they are eating their 1.5 grams of protein everyday every 3 hours or whatever it is you believe a person who is in shape must do?

2. A lot of people do support it and there are variations of it so to speak.  I really don`t care what anyone does to be honest with you.

3. I don`t feel hunger honestly.  But even if I do or did, its not a bad thing.  Its unavoidable 100 percent of the time no matter what you eat or don`t eat.  If you control your grehlin, (something fasting can help people with-but its not necessary) it can be limited or reduced. The hungriest people I have EVER seen are those Fatsos on those shows that weigh 700 plus pounds.  They will complain how hungry they are yet they are eating 15,000 plus calories daily.  They are not lying when they say they are hungry either.  Hope this helps.

1. Carb intake and overall calories, yes. Anabolic window and the 1.5 g of protein are bullshit IMO, eating every 3 hours is BS too.

2. Oh, ok.

3. Haha ok your diet is perfect then, you eat whatever you want and you're almost never hungry.

Anyway ,it's 2 am over here, I gotta sleep at least 8 hours!!!!!!  haha see you, it's been a pleasure (no homo).

[The True Adonis]

1. Carb intake and overall calories, yes. Anabolic window and the 1.5 g of protein are bullshit IMO, eating every 3 hours is BS too.

2. Oh, ok.

3. Haha ok your diet is perfect then, you eat whatever you want and you're almost never hungry.

Anyway ,it's 2 am over here, I gotta sleep at least 8 hours!!!!!!  haha see you, it's been a pleasure (no homo).

Same to you my friend and I was kidding about going catabolic while raking leaves.  The way I see it, eat whatever you want or don`t want and however you want and don`t be scared to try new approaches.  Or don`t if you do not want to.  Its up to you to decide.  As long as you are happy with yourself and what you are doing, nothing else really matters.

[Jovo]

adonis , do you have a job or study ?

I honesty dont see how any one can be assed focusing sooo much on their diet and food if you got other things going on in life..

[BigCyp]

This makes no sense at all.

Try reading it without looking through pubic hair.

[Disgusted]

You are right about this, of course.....But, as far as contest prep dieting, every good bodybuilder i know over 200 pounds diets on low fat and some amount of carbs.  I have dieted on low carbs and on low fat and on low fat I always end up looking better.  I didn't use slin, either....so it cant be that.

Keep in mind when contest dieting I do "use" carbs. Usually once a week I exploit their usefulness for the result I am trying to achieve.

[BIG ACH]

adonis , do you have a job or study ?

I honesty dont see how any one can be assed focusing sooo much on their diet and food if you got other things going on in life..

Its hard but you can do it.  You just need to really prioritize things in your life and better organize it.

[dj181]

The max thermogenic effect would be to lower carbs. If you are an athlete who burns off a lot of glycogen then eat a carb meals after training. That will take care of your insulin balance. Fiber is not needed and drink water when your are thirsty that's a no brainer.

what about eating carbs 90-120 min before the weight training session? basically with the idea of loading the muscle up with glycogen

[Disgusted]

what about eating carbs 90-120 min before the weight training session? basically with the idea of loading the muscle up with glycogen

If one is not dieting for a show and is already lean or where they want to be then would be better to eat some carbs right after a workout.

[dj181]

If one is not dieting for a show and is already lean or where they want to be then would be better to eat some carbs right after a workout.

but what if one is in the process of getting ripped and therefore they only have so many cals and carbs per day that they can eat, wouldn't it be wisest to put the majority of those available carbs before the workout?

[Disgusted]

but what if one is in the process of getting ripped and therefore they only have so many cals and carbs per day that they can eat, wouldn't it be wisest to put the majority of those available carbs before the workout?

I have always had my guys go low to zero carb all week till Sat. Things do get a little rough by thur or so but hey too fucking bad.   IF you are dieting for a show then your goal is to burn fat and you will use fat for energy all day long not just to workout. No one has EVER lost size while I was dieting them. Now, if you are going to use high carb then your question doesn't really apply since you are eating small amounts of carbs all day long most likely.

[jprc10]

[dj181]

I have always had my guys go low to zero carb all week till Sat. Things do get a little rough by thur or so but hey too fucking bad.   IF you are dieting for a show then your goal is to burn fat and you will use fat for energy all day long not just to workout. No one has EVER lost size while I was dieting them. Now, if you are going to use high carb then your question doesn't really apply since you are eating small amounts of carbs all day long most likely.

thanks for the reply

and i'm curious what your thoughts are on drinking a few cups of very strong black coffee pre-workout for energy and for fat-burning effects?

[jprc10]

nunez lies about natural status, so his credibility on everything flies out of the window

 

[Disgusted]

thanks for the reply

and i'm curious what your thoughts are on drinking a few cups of very strong black coffee pre-workout for energy and for fat-burning effects?

Nothing wrong with that at all but will not do much for fat loss.

[Borracho]

Hey disgusted...

Is there anything you allow your athletes to eat as much as they want?

Like celery, lettuce, broccoli or anything like that.

I know this stuff has calories but 100 calories from celery vs 100 calories from soda will not be the same for many reasons. People mention negative calories and I'm pretty sure that's b.s too though.

[El Diablo Blanco]

So Dr. Dramatic in his Video pretty much says that eating fruit is toxic.

The guy is a fucking clown.  He talks like the 45mg of sodium in a can of soda will kill you.  Fucking drama queen.

You get more sodium eating chicken breasts pumped with salt water.