Russian Skyscraper Fire vs. 9/11

[jwb]

What part of it is stupid? We know you are stupid but why is the video stupid? lol!

The people who jumped fell way faster than the towers collapsed.

[Radical Plato]

so it was a silverstein plot.he duped the insurance companies quite well,eh.
therefore,not free fall speed.that was my point and thus,the free fall speed theory flies out of the window.
and there was some debris falling down much faster than the towers.
sorry but if every ct out there was true there wouldve been 10 911s

They always say "Near free fall" - free fall would mean nearly zero resistance.  When they say near free fall, they mean with 400,000 tonnes of steel & concrete beneath it, that this should offer more resistance and a lot slower collapse time, but instead, the building imploded and fell as if their was little to no resistance.

[quadzilla456]

The people who jumped fell way faster than the towers collapsed.

Show me how you figured that out? The buildings collapsed in 10 seconds. A person jumping out of a building immediately starts falling. A building being demolished or imploded have structural columns and beams that have to fail first before free fall of the structure can occur.

Damn, you are fucking stupid!

Here is an implosion for you. Someone jumping out of the building would have been on the ground long before all the columns gave up their resistance.

Did I already say you are a moron?

[quadzilla456]

so it was a silverstein plot.he duped the insurance companies quite well,eh.
therefore,not free fall speed.that was my point and thus,the free fall speed theory flies out of the window.
and there was some debris falling down much faster than the towers.
sorry but if every ct out there was true there wouldve been 10 911s

Wow, lots of morons in this thread.

Do you understand the concept of columns and beams? With stupidity like this maybe it is a good thing that the Hierarchy gets away with their crime. Morons like you really should not be using up anymore oxygen.

Why is this collapse taking so long - even when it is free falling at the end?

[quadzilla456]

this is an interesting video.

could you hear the many,many explosives going off?

where were those on 911,did they use silencers on the explosives?

hahahhaha

But they did hear explosions. And then this witness committed suicide! This is just too perfect!!

[Seven Copper Coins]

Show me how you figured that out? The buildings collapsed in 10 seconds. A person jumping out of a building immediately starts falling. A building being demolished or imploded have structural columns and beams that have to fail first before free fall of the structure can occur.

Damn, you are fucking stupid!

Here is an implosion for you. Someone jumping out of the building would have been on the ground long before all the columns gave up their resistance.

Did I already say you are a moron?

Just because...that implosion looks nothing like wtc..it's the complete opposite. And a building one / one hundreth the size of the towers has visible explosions and dozens of audible explosions.

[quadzilla456]

Just because...that implosion looks nothing like wtc..it's the complete opposite. And a building one / one hundreth the size of the towers has visible explosions and dozens of audible explosions.

Blah blah blah excuses excuses.

Tell me something, do you like keeping your head in the sand?

[Seven Copper Coins]

But they did hear explosions. And then this witness committed suicide! This is just too perfect!!

Yeah, people say they "thought" they heard something.  But the six hundred cameras on the Towers didn't pick up the sound of what would be a hundred times more explosives than in that video. You would have heard it across the Hudson

[Seven Copper Coins]

Blah blah blah excuses excuses.

Tell me something, do you like keeping your head in the sand?

You need to get your eyes  and ears checked chief

[lilhawk1]

Quad you are right on with what you are saying, it is blatantly obvious that the twin towers and building 7 were all controlled demolitions.  Most people that think otherwise haven't taken the time to look into the topic or actually read one of the many books out about it, or simply don't want to believe our government is capable of such a thing.   The New Pearl Harbor, and The New Pearl Harbor Revisited are both outstanding books if interested.  I don't see how anyone with a rational mind can believe the bullshit story that was fabricated by the 9/11 Commission.  

[quadzilla456]

Yeah, people say they "thought" they heard something.  But the six hundred cameras on the Towers didn't pick up the sound of what would be a hundred times more explosives than in that video. You would have heard it across the Hudson

Well, I am not an expert - who knows what kind of technology they could have access to?! All I am saying is there's a lot of unanswered questions.

There are so many areas to go into its amazing.

http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/08/nist-admit-their-report-on-wtc-7-is-not-consistent-with-basic-principles-of-physics/

[The Abdominal Snoman]

yeah and generaly the ct videos dont show the damaged side of wtc7.

And because if there was really "the damaged side", it would topple over like Tbombs being buttfucked sideways by a dozen negroids. lol...Who cares though. Anyone with a brain against building 7 is for sure COINTELPRO or at the very least Hierarachy bloodline.

[jwb]

Quad you are right on with what you are saying, it is blatantly obvious that the twin towers and building 7 were all controlled demolitions.  Most people that think otherwise haven't taken the time to look into the topic or actually read one of the many books out about it, or simply don't want to believe our government is capable of such a thing.   The New Pearl Harbor, and The New Pearl Harbor Revisited are both outstanding books if interested.  I don't see how anyone with a rational mind can believe the bullshit story that was fabricated by the 9/11 Commission.  

if you buy a book about 9/11 you are the ultimate sucker.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

one thing i want to add, the bin ladens and bushes been business buddies for very long.

the us govt helped raise these guys, they fell out,and bush should have known there always possibility of something like 911 happening.


but staging 911 everyone wouldva had to be in on it, the various secret services, police, firworkers, fuck,everyone remotely something to do with it.

What your saying is COINTELPRO...What your also saying is that when Rodney King got his ass handed to him by a dozen LAPD, that everyone in the LAPD HAD to be in on it. Which is fucking silly. Dude, 9/11 could have been pulled off by no less than 25men/ or women. COINTELPRO wants us to believe we would need an army an everyone would talk about it. lol Fucking silly.

[Radical Plato]

I have noticed an interesting shift regarding 9/11 on Getbig.  Years ago there were lots of emotional conspiracy people ridiculing the mainstream for buying into the official line.  Here at getbig now there is lots of emotional people defending the Government.  The average getbigger used to be all for anti government conspiracy rhetoric, now they get really angry if someone dares accuse their government of wrongdoing.   Even if the Government didn't conspire in this event, the people at the very least should be pissed that they did nothing to prevent it, considering the amount of intelligence they had and a supposedly advanced airspace defence.  You can guarantee the people saying 9/11 wasn't an inside job have no problem thinking that the Sandyhook and Colorado massacre was a government pysop to get their guns.

[Radical Plato]

lol id never defend a government, but comeon this 911 stuff has become ridiculous.

govts are bad and selfish but please..

Do you believe in any government conspiracies?

[Seven Copper Coins]

lol id never defend a government, but comeon this 911 stuff has become ridiculous.

govts are bad and selfish but please..

X2   the govt completely took advsntage of 9/11 and pushed some very shady shit through congress that affects this country to this day.  I'm not naive, but i dont latch onto every conspiracy theory out there

[Kwon_2]

It was a despicable thing the government did with the Twin Towers, but it just shows how ruthless you can be to reach your goal.

[Ropo]

top work from ropo on this thread

I thank you for those kind words. Point is that we here in the Finland doesn't be so easily fooled to believe this kind of crap, because we have basicly good education, and therefore we can see what is the hoax and what not. What comes to 9/11, it is quite simple. Where is the explosions? If you have seen some real explosions, you are able to understand, that there is none in 9/11. There isn't anything going on with the speed of explosion, which at its slowest 1000 meters per second(m/s). C4 = 7000 m/s, ANFO=10 000 m/s, which means that blast is very fucking fast, which means there would be visible shockwaves. And with the digi cams you can capture them easily. There is none, so what it means? Laws of physics has failed, or there isn't any explosions. And if there isn't any explosions, why towers collapsed?

Because there was the plane hitting the tower with massive force, and there was a fire, started by 40 tons of kerosene. And down they go, because fire that large can easily heat steel over 1000°C, and red hot steel can't carry that load which is enormous. All this is explained in the web over and over again trough the years, but foil hat idiots are still feeding that bullshit and make up evidence in these forums. Why? Because this is where teen twat's hangs out, and that bunch of idiots beleve anything

[Ropo]

I don't know why everyone keeps mentioning planes hitting a building, WTC7  fell into it's own footprint due to fire.  the whole plane issue is irrelevant when WTC 7 is taken into consideration.

So you say, but where is the evidense? Do this look like they has come down in their own footprint?

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/ground_zero_arial2_ort.jpg = larger version

Look at the building between WTC 1 and WTC 7, and try to undestand that WTC 1 debris fell on the WTC 7. There is no buildings which is build to take that kind of beating, and it still stand and burn for hours. Here is that little fire in WTC 7:



That, regarding of the foil hat idiots truth, is practically nothing.

[Radical Plato]

Another question that comes to mind, is what happened to the near 3/4 billion dollars in gold and silver that was stored under the WTC that just happened to go missing.  $230 million of nearly a billion dollars was recovered.  So what are the peoples theories on this.   (It is not plausible, of course, that whatever destroyed the towers vaporized gold and silver, which are dense, inert metals that are extremely unlikely to participate in chemical reactions with other materials.)

Some suggest the motivation for the collapse of the towers was the biggest heist in history.  3/4 billion dollars is a lot of cash.

Former mob boss Tony Gambino, who declared in a 2007 radio interview: “I know for a fact that Bush [and other] U.S. government leaders had prior knowledge and helped organize 9-11. They did it for many obvious reasons, one being to instigate a war in Iraq. But they also did it to get their hands on all the gold that was hidden below the [WTC].”

Gambino claims that his grandfather’s construction company built the WTC and installed underground vaults to warehouse vast quantities of gold, where it was later stolen on 9-11.

[Ropo]

Well, the 110 stories came down in text book demo fashion. What are the chances that a controlled demolition would be less perfect than a natural collapse?

Try to figure this out: there is 110 floors and total weight of 500 000 metric tons. Plane practically cut it in two pieces, so there is 1/5 of the weight hanging above 4/5 of that weight. Fire takes out at least two floors hight, so 1/5 of the tower has about 12 meters to gain speed when it falls. What is the speed of impact while upper part accelerates 0 to 12m in two seconds, and what that acceleration do to that weight in impact? There will be 100 000 000 kilos traveling 6 meters per second in the point of impact, so what could happen? If you ask it from foil hat idiots, nothing.

[jwb]

Try to figure this out: there is 110 floors and total weight of 500 000 metric tons. Plane practically cut it in two pieces, so there is 1/5 of the weight hanging above 4/5 of that weight. Fire takes out at least two floors hight, so 1/5 of the tower has about 12 meters to gain speed when it falls. What is the speed of impact while upper part accelerates 0 to 12m in two seconds, and what that acceleration do to that weight in impact? There will be 100 000 000 kilos traveling 6 meters per second in the point of impact, so what could happen? If you ask it from foil hat idiots, nothing.

Also, at that height even if the first few floors fell unevenly it wouldn't take long for the floors to start failing together and go down instead of out. Plenty of stuff still fell away from the building though.

[Ropo]

They collapsed completely with minimal parts of the building left standing and no severe damage to structures outside of the WTC complex. Yes, the little structures below were destroyed but no other buildings - except for WTC 7 of course which Silverstein had an insurance policy for lol!

For 110 stories tall buildings that's impressive.

But the real text book implosion occurred with WTC 7.

Only if you are looking that fake video. There is earlier this one compared to real one. Why don't you look it up and compare yourself?

[Ropo]

Quad you are right on with what you are saying, it is blatantly obvious that the twin towers and building 7 were all controlled demolitions.  Most people that think otherwise haven't taken the time to look into the topic or actually read one of the many books out about it, or simply don't want to believe our government is capable of such a thing.   The New Pearl Harbor, and The New Pearl Harbor Revisited are both outstanding books if interested.  I don't see how anyone with a rational mind can believe the bullshit story that was fabricated by the 9/11 Commission.  

Very obvious indeed. But where is the evidence? There isn't even one little explosion for one good reason. There isn't such thing like explosives which you can leave to hang out in inferno like that, and after hour of burning they go off just like planned. All explosives are basicly chemical compounds, and all chemicals react heat, so controlled demolition with some kind of fireproof explosives, detonation cords and caps is 100% impossible task. So how exactly they do it, while there isn't any way to do it? Point out even one explosive which doesn't react fire. Just one? Pretty please??