Author Topic: Pat Riley asks Shaq to lose weight (Read 13142 times)

DIVISION · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2005, 03:55:56 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on December 17, 2005, 03:54:27 PM

'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.

Go 2 Bed, Pumper.....

Shaq on Tren would work wonders.......

He'd cut up like a younger version from back in his early days.....

DIV

Hedgehog · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2005, 04:11:20 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on December 17, 2005, 03:54:27 PM

'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.

I agree, since what I've seen about Shaq's strength training is extremely unimpressive.

How will gear help him get down to 270 lbs?

I also checked the NBA rules and regulations. They're testing. So he shouldn't be using steroids. If he is, then he's a cheater. So steroids are out of the question IMO.

YIP
Zack

Army of One · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2005, 04:17:58 PM »

This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.

DIVISION · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2005, 04:25:03 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on December 17, 2005, 04:11:20 PM

I agree, since what I've seen about Shaq's strength training is extremely unimpressive.

How will gear help him get down to 270 lbs?

I also checked the NBA rules and regulations. They're testing. So he shouldn't be using steroids. If he is, then he's a cheater. So steroids are out of the question IMO.

This is all hypothetical, Zachariah......

Settle DOWN.

DIV

Hedgehog · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2005, 04:34:18 PM »

Quote from: db2431 on December 17, 2005, 04:17:58 PM

This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.

Where do you get that "under 10%bf" from?

YIP
Zack

fearANDloathing · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:16:06 PM »

Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!

Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. Fuck Riles

Hedgehog · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:22:38 PM »

Quote from: fearANDloathing on December 17, 2005, 06:16:06 PM

Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!

Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. f**k Riles

One of the 50 all time greatest. I think he may be one of the 25 greatest. But that's a matter of opinion, of course.

Still, had the stupid fcuk not been so focused on bulking up, he would've been lean and mean, practically unstoppable. But the guy had to go for the bigger is better.

And can be dominated by Tim Duncan, which is laughable IMO. Something I thought was unthinkable in the past.

I think it's too late. And Shaq doesn't have the desire, either.

He's just a fcuking Kazaam.

YIP
Zack

bmacsys · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:28:32 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on December 17, 2005, 02:39:02 PM

^Concur.

If I was his guru, I'd put him on a basic Test/Tren/Winstrol cycle......

I'd aim to cut him up while making the mass he has more solid and dense.

That combined with the strength training would make him stronger, more explosive and sleeker, versatile.

He should have done this probably his 4th year or so.....when his body could still take the pounding.

It's probably too late for these recommendations.

DIV

Why is the answer with you to always do a cycle? With "advice" like yours people would be better off without any advice at all.

bmacsys · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:29:44 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on December 17, 2005, 01:43:55 PM

If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.

At 250 to 270 Shaq would be a twig with his massive frame at nearly 7'2"

DIVISION · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:31:32 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on December 17, 2005, 06:22:38 PM

I think it's too late. And Shaq doesn't have the desire, either.

He's just a fcuking Kazaam.

He's at the end of a long career.......no use in changing his style now.

He'll go out the same way he came in.....with force and fury to the basket.

DIV

bmacsys · « **Reply #35 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:32:25 PM »

Quote from: db2431 on December 17, 2005, 04:17:58 PM

This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.

These guys have no clue about Shaq. He weighed about 300 as a freshman at LSU. He is HUGE.

bmacsys · « **Reply #36 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:35:39 PM »

Quote from: fearANDloathing on December 17, 2005, 06:16:06 PM

Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!

Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. f**k Riles

Agreed. Any coach could have won with, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Cooper, McAdoo, Wilkes, Scott, Nixon, Lucas, and the list goes on....

Hedgehog · « **Reply #37 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:39:13 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 17, 2005, 06:32:25 PM

These guys have no clue about Shaq. He weighed about 300 as a freshman at LSU. He is HUGE.

I think he could slim down to right under 300 lbs within a year. That part would be the easiest.

I admit that 250 lbs is far fetched, unrealistic. 270 lbs.. Well. I think two years down the road... Yes.

YIP
Zack

DIVISION · « **Reply #38 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:48:53 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on December 17, 2005, 06:39:13 PM

I think he could slim down to right under 300 lbs within a year. That part would be the easiest.

I admit that 250 lbs is far fetched, unrealistic. 270 lbs.. Well. I think two years down the road... Yes.

Considering his college playing weight......getting back to 300lbs is a real reach, but possible.

He'd have to lay off the bulking regiment and change up his style.

DIV

Jadethegladiator · « **Reply #39 on:** December 17, 2005, 06:57:49 PM »

Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok

Jade

Hedgehog · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:08:37 PM »

Quote from: Jadethegladiator on December 17, 2005, 06:57:49 PM

Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok

Jade

The real question would be..

Does Shaq have a Jade story to tell?

YIP
Zack

DIVISION · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:13:37 PM »

Quote from: Jadethegladiator on December 17, 2005, 06:57:49 PM

Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok

I'd like to climb in the back of Jade's crib, y0!.......

DIV

billycarp · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:25:26 PM »

I meet Shaq at Oscar de La Hoya's charity thingy in LA a few years back and all I can say he is one huge dude. Nice as well.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:26:31 PM »

um pat reiley is a new yorker ...
from schenectady, new york...
would he lie ?

DIVISION · « **Reply #44 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:39:04 PM »

Quote from: billycarp on December 17, 2005, 07:25:26 PM

I meet Shaq at Oscar de La Hoya's charity thingy in LA a few years back and all I can say he is one huge dude. Nice as well.

Shaq and Oscar are homies....

I've heard Shaq talk about Oscar plenty of times in interviews......he seems to like De La Hoya....

DIV

Loomis · « **Reply #45 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:06:14 PM »

He should diet and do more cardio. Simple.

billycarp · « **Reply #46 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on December 17, 2005, 07:39:04 PM

Shaq and Oscar are homies....

I've heard Shaq talk about Oscar plenty of times in interviews......he seems to like De La Hoya....

DIV

I am not sure of their relationship -- but he was one of a few special guest there. That singer Marc Anthony or whatever was there as well and Andy Garcia. I am sure there were more -- but Shaq really stood out -- had this pimping white tux on.

DIVISION · « **Reply #47 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:16:41 PM »

Quote from: billycarp on December 17, 2005, 08:14:00 PM

I am not sure of their relationship -- but he was one of a few special guest there. That singer Marc Anthony or whatever was there as well and Andy Garcia. I am sure there were more -- but Shaq really stood out -- had this pimping white tux on.

I think that pretty much backs up what I said.

DIV

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #48 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:30:04 PM »

shaq at 270-LOL. shaq at 270 would struggle to put up 15 points and 8 rebounds a game. you know why? because shaq's ENTIRE GAME is based on his incredible size.
he barely has any basketball skill....any middle school basketball player could shoot freethrows better than him.
he cannot shoot AT ALL from further than 6 feet from the hoop...99% of his points are on dunks and layups, which he gets by simply backing the defender out of the way with his HUGE ASS.
no shooting skills, no dribbling skills, no speed, all size...shaq playing in the NBA is and has always been like a dad playing with his preteen sons....no skill but gets points and rebounds because hes so much more massive.
he was at his most dominant when he was biggest. make shaq as fat as possible while still being able to run the court, and he will get his numbers.

blaster · « **Reply #49 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:34:59 PM »

Quote from: Bast06 on December 16, 2005, 10:09:38 PM

Is Pat right?

This is bullshit.

Firstly, Shaq is so fucking tall, he doesn't need to jump much at all to dunk.

Secondly, why THE FUCK! does everyone think he's such a force? Because he IS so big that he just backs you down and dunks on you.

FOR FUCKS SAKE! Leave him be. When pencil necks like Mutombo can stop him, then he needs to lose weight.

Half the reason I started weight training was because I was getting pushed around on the court by older guys who weighed more. At 6'4" (if that) and 110kgs I can still dunk two hands off two feet without a run up. Shaq is fine.