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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #125 on: April 16, 2013, 09:31:30 AM »
So turns out there were reports of it being a pre planned drill. Yesterday I saw a video of some people talking about a planned controlled drill. Looks like it went very wrong. The media however are trying to recycle the fear of people to profit.

LOL... A "pre-planned drill". With live explosives in a unsuspecting civilian crowd with the media already present? Come on now ahmed. Are you really stupid enough to believe this scenario is even remotely likely?

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« Reply #126 on: April 16, 2013, 09:32:10 AM »
Shit that screencap of Boston twitter got taken down!!! ARGHH should have saved it!

Basically they announced a bomb drill!... can't believe they took it down, well that says it all who did what...

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« Reply #127 on: April 16, 2013, 09:33:23 AM »
Wait I found another one HAH!

As the Boston Globe tweeted today, “Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.”

http://www.infowars.com/boston-marathon-bombing-happened-on-same-day-as-controlled-explosion-drill-by-boston-bomb-squad/

Yes I know it's alex jones site, but the screen cap is not going to be taken down from there.

There you have it folks.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #128 on: April 16, 2013, 09:37:59 AM »
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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #129 on: April 16, 2013, 09:38:27 AM »
Wait I found another one HAH!

As the Boston Globe tweeted today, “Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.”

http://www.infowars.com/boston-marathon-bombing-happened-on-same-day-as-controlled-explosion-drill-by-boston-bomb-squad/

Yes I know it's alex jones site, but the screen cap is not going to be taken down from there.

There you have it folks.

Ahmed, are you stupid or really fucking stupid? This doesn't mean that they were conducting a drill you buffoon. It mean that the bomb squad found something suspicious (i.e. something they believed might be a bomb) and were going to do a controlled detonation of it; this is very much standard procedure. And this was after the explosions at the Boston Marathon.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2013, 09:41:32 AM »
Ahmed, are you stupid or really fucking stupid? This doesn't mean that they were conducting a drill you buffoon. It mean that the bomb squad found something suspicious (i.e. something they believed might be a bomb) and were going to do a controlled detonation of it; this is very much standard procedure. And this was after the explosions at the Boston Marathon.

Personal attacks

Check the other video where marathon runners report there was bomb sniffing dogs and they were told there was a drill.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2013, 09:48:26 AM »
Personal attacks

To call "stupid" someone who believes that there was a drill conducted by officials with live explosives in the middle of an unsuspecting civilian crowd with media all around isn't a personal attack. It's stating a fact.


Check the other video where marathon runners report there was bomb sniffing dogs and they were told there was a drill.

The presence of a bomb sniffing dog isn't surprising. There are bomb sniffing dogs that walk down the Las Vegas strip sometimes. And in every large airport in the United States.

That aside, even if runners were told it's a drill, what does that prove? It's entirely possible that there was, actually, a drill scheduled or in progress. Let's assume, arguendo, that there was. So what? Correlation doesn't imply causation.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2013, 10:13:20 AM »
Not to cite a silly technicality, but Avxo is right. 

He didn't say you were stupid, he was asking if you were stupid or really fucking stupid....which i am starting to believe you are. (not that didn't have a strong suspicion before this, but you are demonstrating your intellectual sum total quite well here.) 

Maybe that's why a region stuck in the 13th century appeals so much to you.   ;)

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« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2013, 10:54:38 AM »
I know,.. too much ;D

Not at all - and I mean that, wholeheartedly.

Just had to say it based on Brokaw's "just deal with what's coming and love it" picture for America.  I don't like that vision and I don't think it's a very free image.  I don't want my kids to grow up in a country where they have to be searched, scanned, felt-up, show papers all the time and have all of their communications monitored.  freaky...  not what I thought America would be in the future but here we are...

Yes, here we are.  Full psychopathic control of the neurotic and delusional ones, with sufficient momentum to reshape legislation in a most dangerous way, with far too few people speaking out.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2013, 01:01:30 PM »
Great commentary.

The pursuit of liberty is a marathon
By Dr. Keith Ablow
Published April 16, 2013
FoxNews.com

Nothing will be quite the same in Boston or in America after Monday's terrorist attack.  Psychologically, the bombings bring terrorism to the streets of an American city, on a sunny Patriot's Day, during a road race, the Boston Marathon.

The bombings mean that any street corner, in any American City, is vulnerable -- that terror need not come from the sky, nor target iconic skyscrapers and national landmarks.  It can target people where they gather just for fun, on any given day.

The attacker or attackers today used bombs in backpacks, not commandeered jets.  They chose the streets of Boston, not the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., or the World Trade Center in New York City as their target.  Because the target of those who hate freedom is anyone who loves it, anywhere, anytime.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.

On Monday, Boston and America joined cities like Jerusalem and nations like Ireland, which have long known that safety is relative, that the danger that comes from asserting the values we hold dear is omnipresent, that life itself is a gift that can be taken not only by cancer and heart disease, but by the disease of terrorism.

We are no more vulnerable today than yesterday, but we will feel more vulnerable, because we had no known hint of what was to befall us. 

This event will register, psychologically, in the minds of those at the Boston Garden and Madison Square Garden and at parades on Fifth Avenue in a way that only the carnage on 9/11 did -- and, possibly, even more. 

With all our TSA security, with the Homeland Security Act, with the government nosing around in our emails and deploying drones at home and abroad, with the (nonsensical) talk in Washington about banning assault rifles or restricting access to ammunition, an 8-year-old boy was blown up Monday, two adults were blown up on Monday, and more than a hundred others were injured, some losing limbs.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.  These qualities attract the ire of those who would have us shackled and weak, who are consumed by hatred for individual possibilities, rather than love for what a free person can dream about and strive for and accomplish.

Please tell your children this:  We are attacked in America because we speak about and believe in the power of people to guide themselves through life, to make their own decisions, to think their own thoughts, to speak freely and to pursue their own happiness.

Tell them that as long as the Lincoln Memorial and the Jefferson Memorial and the Statue of Liberty grace our great land that those opposed to equality and freedom will always see us as enemies. Tell them that we must always be vigilant, but never afraid.

Tell them that we cannot be defeated, because the truth wins, every time.  And we, in America, hold great truths to be self-evident.

Tell them that liberty is a marathon.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/15/pursuit-liberty-is-marathon/

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2013, 01:17:24 PM »
^What a load of brainwashed crap. lmao. America has no liberty or freedom. It's a dream, it's an illusion. We are every day less and less free in the west and living in a police state, a prison planet. George Orwellian Newspeak is the norm. Fear mongering people into feeling defenseless and more defenseless while more and more money is being spent on defenses.

Painting an image of a vulnerable and under threat America, while in fact no one is really after America while America is after the rest of the world.

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« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2013, 01:18:11 PM »
Great commentary.

The pursuit of liberty is a marathon
By Dr. Keith Ablow
Published April 16, 2013
FoxNews.com

Nothing will be quite the same in Boston or in America after Monday's terrorist attack.  Psychologically, the bombings bring terrorism to the streets of an American city, on a sunny Patriot's Day, during a road race, the Boston Marathon.

The bombings mean that any street corner, in any American City, is vulnerable -- that terror need not come from the sky, nor target iconic skyscrapers and national landmarks.  It can target people where they gather just for fun, on any given day.

The attacker or attackers today used bombs in backpacks, not commandeered jets.  They chose the streets of Boston, not the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., or the World Trade Center in New York City as their target.  Because the target of those who hate freedom is anyone who loves it, anywhere, anytime.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.

On Monday, Boston and America joined cities like Jerusalem and nations like Ireland, which have long known that safety is relative, that the danger that comes from asserting the values we hold dear is omnipresent, that life itself is a gift that can be taken not only by cancer and heart disease, but by the disease of terrorism.

We are no more vulnerable today than yesterday, but we will feel more vulnerable, because we had no known hint of what was to befall us. 

This event will register, psychologically, in the minds of those at the Boston Garden and Madison Square Garden and at parades on Fifth Avenue in a way that only the carnage on 9/11 did -- and, possibly, even more. 

With all our TSA security, with the Homeland Security Act, with the government nosing around in our emails and deploying drones at home and abroad, with the (nonsensical) talk in Washington about banning assault rifles or restricting access to ammunition, an 8-year-old boy was blown up Monday, two adults were blown up on Monday, and more than a hundred others were injured, some losing limbs.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.  These qualities attract the ire of those who would have us shackled and weak, who are consumed by hatred for individual possibilities, rather than love for what a free person can dream about and strive for and accomplish.

Please tell your children this:  We are attacked in America because we speak about and believe in the power of people to guide themselves through life, to make their own decisions, to think their own thoughts, to speak freely and to pursue their own happiness.

Tell them that as long as the Lincoln Memorial and the Jefferson Memorial and the Statue of Liberty grace our great land that those opposed to equality and freedom will always see us as enemies. Tell them that we must always be vigilant, but never afraid.

Tell them that we cannot be defeated, because the truth wins, every time.  And we, in America, hold great truths to be self-evident.

Tell them that liberty is a marathon.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/15/pursuit-liberty-is-marathon/

Ahhh..so we're on a pursuit of liberty.  Glad to know that, because it seemed just the opposite.

What a terrible joke.  How fucking sad.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #137 on: April 16, 2013, 01:19:26 PM »
Glad to see FOX is on the case.  What a great alternative to the other sacks of shit.   ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #138 on: April 16, 2013, 01:21:58 PM »
So Jack you think this was staged?

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« Reply #139 on: April 16, 2013, 01:24:22 PM »
So Jack you think this was staged?

OzmO, how could I possibly presume to know that?

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« Reply #140 on: April 16, 2013, 01:25:21 PM »
^What a load of brainwashed crap. lmao. America has no liberty or freedom. It's a dream, it's an illusion. We are every day less and less free in the west and living in a police state, a prison planet. George Orwellian Newspeak is the norm. Fear mongering people into feeling defenseless and more defenseless while more and more money is being spent on defenses.

Painting an image of a vulnerable and under threat America, while in fact no one is really after America while America is after the rest of the world.

Really?  You mean I don't get to live, work, play, travel, etc. where I want?  I'm just dreaming? 

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« Reply #141 on: April 16, 2013, 01:26:42 PM »
OzmO, how could I possibly presume to know that?

Just asking if you think this was staged.

If you can't answer it or don't want to, (which is typical of you) just say so.   :)

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« Reply #142 on: April 16, 2013, 01:29:00 PM »
Really?  You mean I don't get to live, work, play, travel, etc. where I want?  I'm just dreaming?  

Freedom means to some people:

-  The legal ability to beat your wife in public or private

-  The reasonable justification to riot for the beheading of a cartoonist satirizing your prophet

-  The justification to kill non believers in Allah.  

So yeah, Beach we are repressed and in chains.

 

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« Reply #143 on: April 16, 2013, 01:33:40 PM »
^What a load of brainwashed crap. lmao. America has no liberty or freedom. It's a dream, it's an illusion. We are every day less and less free in the west and living in a police state, a prison planet. George Orwellian Newspeak is the norm. Fear mongering people into feeling defenseless and more defenseless while more and more money is being spent on defenses.

Painting an image of a vulnerable and under threat America, while in fact no one is really after America while America is after the rest of the world.


We don't have complete freedom and western governments are capable of some extremely shady things but we will always be more free than the most "modern" Islamic state will ever be. This fact can not be disputed.   
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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #144 on: April 16, 2013, 01:36:10 PM »
Just asking if you think this was staged.

If you can't answer it or don't want to, (which is typical of you) just say so.   :)

I wouldn't attempt to judge without knowing much more about it.

An over-the-top reaction, however, can be judged as absolutely wrong.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2013, 01:36:19 PM »
yeah, Its so free in Modern Islamic States Ahmed lives in Canada.

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« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2013, 01:36:31 PM »
Regardless of who actually is behind the attacks, our media/government will find a way to tie it together with our current "enemy of the month", and in addition to the loss of life, we'll lose more of our liberty and what little dignity we have left.

Agreed.
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« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2013, 01:37:02 PM »
Great commentary.

The pursuit of liberty is a marathon
By Dr. Keith Ablow
Published April 16, 2013
FoxNews.com

Nothing will be quite the same in Boston or in America after Monday's terrorist attack.  Psychologically, the bombings bring terrorism to the streets of an American city, on a sunny Patriot's Day, during a road race, the Boston Marathon.

The bombings mean that any street corner, in any American City, is vulnerable -- that terror need not come from the sky, nor target iconic skyscrapers and national landmarks.  It can target people where they gather just for fun, on any given day.

The attacker or attackers today used bombs in backpacks, not commandeered jets.  They chose the streets of Boston, not the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., or the World Trade Center in New York City as their target.  Because the target of those who hate freedom is anyone who loves it, anywhere, anytime.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.

On Monday, Boston and America joined cities like Jerusalem and nations like Ireland, which have long known that safety is relative, that the danger that comes from asserting the values we hold dear is omnipresent, that life itself is a gift that can be taken not only by cancer and heart disease, but by the disease of terrorism.

We are no more vulnerable today than yesterday, but we will feel more vulnerable, because we had no known hint of what was to befall us.  

This event will register, psychologically, in the minds of those at the Boston Garden and Madison Square Garden and at parades on Fifth Avenue in a way that only the carnage on 9/11 did -- and, possibly, even more.  

With all our TSA security, with the Homeland Security Act, with the government nosing around in our emails and deploying drones at home and abroad, with the (nonsensical) talk in Washington about banning assault rifles or restricting access to ammunition, an 8-year-old boy was blown up Monday, two adults were blown up on Monday, and more than a hundred others were injured, some losing limbs.

Here is the irony:  We are vulnerable, because we are free and strong.  These qualities attract the ire of those who would have us shackled and weak, who are consumed by hatred for individual possibilities, rather than love for what a free person can dream about and strive for and accomplish.

Please tell your children this:  We are attacked in America because we speak about and believe in the power of people to guide themselves through life, to make their own decisions, to think their own thoughts, to speak freely and to pursue their own happiness.

Tell them that as long as the Lincoln Memorial and the Jefferson Memorial and the Statue of Liberty grace our great land that those opposed to equality and freedom will always see us as enemies. Tell them that we must always be vigilant, but never afraid.

Tell them that we cannot be defeated, because the truth wins, every time.  And we, in America, hold great truths to be self-evident.

Tell them that liberty is a marathon.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/15/pursuit-liberty-is-marathon/

YES!  What some of us have been saying all along!

IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY!


I can deal with the .0000001 chance that I'll be a victim of terrorism.

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Re: Boston Marathon twin bombings
« Reply #148 on: April 16, 2013, 01:37:37 PM »
I wouldn't attempt to judge without knowing much more about it.

An over-the-top reaction, however, can be judged as absolutely wrong.

I agree.  It will be a while before an investigation is complete.

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« Reply #149 on: April 16, 2013, 01:40:09 PM »
Yes, it's quite ironic that we free people must lose our freedom to stop the people who hate our freedom.

Needless to say, there's no end in sight.