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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2013, 08:40:43 PM »
Bro I see what you did there, you threw in Dillet so you it doesn`t seem like you are targeting `the whites`` then you threw in Dorian so it did not seem like you are only praising the blacks, lol come on bro, Your examples are falling apart, I don`t care if this guy is the next Ronnie or not, this guy is a good bodybuilder and can win the Olympia one day, he is that good. Besides, you said it yourself in your post comparing his back to Jay, well guess what? Jay won the O 4 times.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #76 on: May 26, 2013, 09:14:49 PM »
winning the NY Pro/NIght of Champions in your pro DEBUT as a non USA BB is a HUGE achievement

having DJ be his guru obviously helps him with judging panel and you could see  DJ and Ramy were doing the diplomacy thing with Weinberger

This guy is superwide, big and complete, he can obviously improve  but its an amazing debut

he can imrpove back width, erector spinae/ lower back, chest, calves and condition could be drier

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2013, 09:23:11 PM »
the guy is huge,monstous legs,big wide frame,muscle evrywhere and in great shape for 280 plus ,,usually thses bigger guys fall by wayside due to having size but no condition,or bad shape,structure issues,,this guy looks nuts.not what i like bbing wise ,but he brought it..

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2013, 10:17:47 PM »
Yep certain parts of the bodies musculature will have different degrees of fat within the muscle and this gets pronounced with insulin usage. Also, certain parts of the bodies skin is thinner and thicker too. Couple this with GH use (which thickens skin) and you have a recipe for the modern bodybuilder that we see on stage today.  :D
thanx  for the explanation.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2013, 10:18:20 PM »
Not really, when you are the big, your weak parts are still strong standing next to others.

That is a pro-size argument. Everything should be in proportion too.

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« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2013, 10:24:36 PM »
That is a pro-size argument. Everything should be in proportion too.
Ya but Ronnie Coleman having zero calf's will not count against him cause he is the biggest guy on stage, see what I mean? the bigger you are the less meaningful a lagging bodypart becomes. Another example is Dorian`s arms, he is so hard and dry with mass that the torn bicep did nothing to him in regards to judging.

So my point is this guy is still winning the majority of his mandatory poses and quarter turns because of his sheer size with a small waist (for his frame) and flaring thighs. That alone gives his back double pose a nod over the rest of his competitors.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #81 on: May 26, 2013, 10:46:41 PM »
His back looks pretty good from the rear but his lats kind of disappear on his FDB pose.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #82 on: May 26, 2013, 11:46:31 PM »
Victor is known for great width but Ramy is actually almost 1 full deltoid wider on each side

i think Ramy is even wider than Ruhl  :o

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2013, 11:57:11 PM »
Victor is known for great width but Ramy is actually almost 1 full deltoid wider on each side

i think Ramy is even wider than Ruhl  :o
The only one I can think of as wide as Ramy is Joel Stubbs

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2013, 12:05:03 AM »
physique is where it's at now

this looks 1000x better than the bigger bodybuilders.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2013, 12:26:18 AM »
Anyway before coleman, Kai looks way complete than ramy. Bodybuilding  is about how complete you are

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2013, 12:31:22 AM »
Bro I see what you did there, you threw in Dillet so you it doesn`t seem like you are targeting `the whites`` then you threw in Dorian so it did not seem like you are only praising the blacks, lol come on bro, Your examples are falling apart, I don`t care if this guy is the next Ronnie or not, this guy is a good bodybuilder and can win the Olympia one day, he is that good. Besides, you said it yourself in your post comparing his back to Jay, well guess what? Jay won the O 4 times.
Dillett is known for having a weak back, and Dorian is known for having a deeply detailed and separated back...sometimes things are what they are...

No, he is not that good to win, he is another Federov, and just like everybody was again hyping Federov adn Wolf up, it never happened. Always with the hype...

Yes, jay won, and that was due to politics---his subpar wrinkly back and spotty conditioning is part of the down fall of today's bodybuilding. Him being 4X Mr O gives the green light for others to be subpar. Flex Wheeler's use of synthol was another harbinger of the downfall of bbing. He shouldn't have been allowed to get away with it, plain and simple.
  
Again, let's quite with the hype game...it gets old. People were saying that Cedric will be Mr. o, but Cedric can't even come into conditioning consistently. People were hyping up Wolf, yet he can't will not get his mid-lower back up, and he has lost a calf.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2013, 12:40:51 AM »
Dillett is known for having a weak back, and Dorian is known for having a deeply detailed and separated back...sometimes things are what they are...

No, he is not that good to win, he is another Federov, and just like everybody was again hyping Federov adn Wolf up, it never happened. Always with the hype...

Yes, jay won, and that was due to politics---his subpar wrinkly back and spotty conditioning is part of the down fall of today's bodybuilding. Him being 4X Mr O gives the green light for others to be subpar. Flex Wheeler's use of synthol was another harbinger of the downfall of bbing. He shouldn't have been allowed to get away with it, plain and simple.
  
Again, let's quite with the hype game...it gets old. People were saying that Cedric will be Mr. o, but Cedric can't even come into conditioning consistently. People were hyping up Wolf, yet he can't will not get his mid-lower back up, and he has lost a calf.
winning your pro debut is not hype bro, sorry but us saying he has potential is well earned on his behalf, you are comparing him to people who did not bring what he has brought to the table at this point.

Non of the hype guys you mentioned are as big and complete as this guy, non of the guys won their pro debut and non of them have flaring thighs, barn door shoulders with a tiny waist. The reality is that you are not giving credit where it is due because he is not black, sorry bro I have a lot of respect for you and you are top dog here on getbig but word on the street is you have shown a biased pattern towards black bodybuilders, just keeping it real bro and saying it how I and other have seen it, I mean no disrespect in any way. Just my 2 cents

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2013, 01:10:46 AM »
winning your pro debut is not hype bro, sorry but us saying he has potential is well earned on his behalf, you are comparing him to people who did not bring what he has brought to the table at this point.

Non of the hype guys you mentioned are as big and complete as this guy, non of the guys won their pro debut and non of them have flaring thighs, barn door shoulders with a tiny waist. The reality is that you are not giving credit where it is due because he is not black, sorry bro I have a lot of respect for you and you are top dog here on getbig but word on the street is you have shown a biased pattern towards black bodybuilders, just keeping it real bro and saying it how I and other have seen it, I mean no disrespect in any way. Just my 2 cents
Where is he from? Egypt, correct? then he is an Arab African.
Evan won his Pro Debut, but he isn't the ish, once the hype died down, people started realizing what i and others had said--lack of good taper and lack of chest.
No, he is a big dude, but with suspect shoulders and lacking a good lower back, good abs, good upper back, great shest, good arms, great quads, subpar calves, great hams The people I had listed had good backs and happened to be black...because there tends to be a lot of good black top tier bbers with great backs, throught the years. And Dorian beat them , and if you had noticed, i omitted levrone...because he had detail, but it wasn't deep, and he was either Little Levrone or Big Levrone...
I'm biased toward the good black and White bbers...and i said it before and i'll say it again, if Jay had ronnie's or Dorian's back, he'd crush Phil. If Francois didn't get sick, he'd be winning over Jay, Nasser, Flex, and probably even Ronnie. it just so happens, there are disproportionately more good black bbers than good white bbers.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2013, 08:00:04 AM »
Where is he from? Egypt, correct? then he is an Arab African.
Evan won his Pro Debut, but he isn't the ish, once the hype died down, people started realizing what i and others had said--lack of good taper and lack of chest.
No, he is a big dude, but with suspect shoulders and lacking a good lower back, good abs, good upper back, great shest, good arms, great quads, subpar calves, great hams The people I had listed had good backs and happened to be black...because there tends to be a lot of good black top tier bbers with great backs, throught the years. And Dorian beat them , and if you had noticed, i omitted levrone...because he had detail, but it wasn't deep, and he was either Little Levrone or Big Levrone...
I'm biased toward the good black and White bbers...and i said it before and i'll say it again, if Jay had ronnie's or Dorian's back, he'd crush Phil. If Francois didn't get sick, he'd be winning over Jay, Nasser, Flex, and probably even Ronnie. it just so happens, there are disproportionately more good black bbers than good white bbers.
I hear you,  but we should stop calling anything in bodybuilding "suspect,"  since clearly everyone is using everything at this point.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #90 on: May 27, 2013, 08:02:56 AM »
Congrats to big Ramy!

I think Victor should pack on some more muscle and work on his conditioning a bit more. If he can bring the same amount of muscle he did in 2007, plus with good conditioning, he will easily crack top 3 at any pro contest. Unless he figures out how to do that, I see him retiring in the next 5 years. The guy is going to be 40 come July and past that point it becomes very difficult to achieve paper thin conditioning the way he used to back in his late-20's and early 30's.

That said, following a fractured humerus and his prior left patellar tendon rupture, the mere fact that he can still step on stage, after those injuries and bang out second place, is pretty impressive.

The way I see it, the guy only needs to win the Olympia to feel a sense of closure with regards to his bodybuilding career.  He won the Night of Champions, the GNC show of strength and the Arnold Classic 2x. If he could ever win the Olympia, that would allow him to retire happy.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2013, 08:04:55 AM »
I hear you,  but we should stop calling anything in bodybuilding "suspect,"  since clearly everyone is using everything at this point.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2013, 08:16:20 AM »
Sorry but this guy is the real fucking deal (a physique like his comes around as often as Haley's comet)

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #93 on: May 27, 2013, 08:32:46 AM »
Sorry but this guy is the real fucking deal (a physique like his comes around as often as Haley's comet)
Rami is a great talent. I already put him ahead of Heath. Wider  :D

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #94 on: May 27, 2013, 08:47:56 AM »
Sorry but this guy is the real fucking deal (a physique like his comes around as often as Haley's comet)

Yes, true that.

Usually I dont look forward to the Olympia at all, same thing every year(2006-present). But im looking forward to a Heath/Kai/Big Ramy showdown.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #95 on: May 27, 2013, 09:05:31 AM »
I hear you,  but we should stop calling anything in bodybuilding "suspect,"  since clearly everyone is using everything at this point.
EXACTLY, everyone is part of the same hypocrisy. It`s an even playing field and this is the game they are playing. Anyone who does not think it is necessary to do this at this level is simply naive.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #96 on: May 27, 2013, 09:13:31 AM »
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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #97 on: May 27, 2013, 09:22:03 AM »
Yes, true that.

Usually I dont look forward to the Olympia at all, same thing every year(2006-present). But im looking forward to a Heath/Kai/Big Ramy showdown.
TBH, I am hoping he skips it this time around and kills the Arnold. Just imagine the hype going into the next years Olympia in an Olympia debut with an Arnold title.

Cause realistically he is going up against a lot of politics at this years Olympia and winning an Arnold title which is in his reach now could even the odds.

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #98 on: May 27, 2013, 09:25:05 AM »
you cant not be impressed with the sheer size of this man, one of the widest bodybuilders ive ever seen, if he doesnt burn out ha could be the 1st legit 300lber in contest shape......

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Re: NY PRO Big Ramy Wins!!!!
« Reply #99 on: May 27, 2013, 09:29:00 AM »
you cant not be impressed with the sheer size of this man, one of the widest bodybuilders ive ever seen, if he doesnt burn out ha could be the 1st legit 300lber in contest shape......
Gunter was a legit 300 lb in contest shape at the 2002 show of strength when he beat Ronnie but he was 6`2 and this guy is 5`10 to 5 `11, so you are right first 300 lb bodybuilder under 6 feet