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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #750 on: September 25, 2013, 08:22:43 AM »
Sitting here with my popcorn......waiting to read if you worked on any ZIV productions.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #751 on: September 25, 2013, 09:18:11 AM »
MB, Nope! Never did work in a ZIV tv production if you are referring to ZIV-UNITED ARTIST, but I either knew or have met some of the participents (actors) who have.

I never did too much 'in-front-of-the-camera work, but I was 'invited' to do so on numerous occasions, but Frank Sinatra knocked me over once in the original cut of Pal Joey and I appeared in a couple if teen-age-cult movies which I never saw and most likely never made it into any theater.

I gotta admit that I never did get 'reimbursed' for my two-second Pal Joey scene be cause I actually snuck into that part and had no idea what was going to happen.

Actually they filmed "my" scene twice because I fooked up the first take by 'acting' very stupid. Unlike Brando, my 'method' was .... The JUST ACT STUPID method!

And I was pretty damn good at that.

Most of those come-on-up-and-help-us-make-this-movie 'invites' occured while I was involved in some military thing in a distant land. My biggest disappointment was my 'unavailability' to accept an invite to be an original monkey (meaning Ape) in the original Planet of the Apes.

And that's a funny story in itself because many years later ... family members became apes of importance in the most recent POTA productions as well as the next one to be released soon.  My help there consisted of standing in front of an ape enclosure for an entire day watching the movements of an ape in the LA Zoo east of Universal the name of which I have forgotten. Actually that observation amounted to little more than an often repeated  'stare-down' between man and beast.

I Might have an interesting UNITED ARTISTS story to pass on to you if  there is any interest.




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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #752 on: September 25, 2013, 09:53:58 AM »
 :)original apes
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #753 on: September 25, 2013, 09:55:35 AM »
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #754 on: September 25, 2013, 09:57:43 AM »
first guy is seymoer koenig, than zabo kow...ski, big guy on end  is steve mari....an , third guy not sure could be jerry trayler.
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #755 on: September 25, 2013, 10:09:03 AM »
Funk! Thanks. I never saw that photo before. Do you have any idea what year it was taken?

It looks like the 3rd individual is my good friend (now deceased) JACK TYREE.

But Jack's ape role required that he be in the make up chair for a good number of hours before he was called on set. So those APE MASKS were most likely only used for the background apes.

I was on the "Apes" set during the filming when Mark Wahlberg was the major actor and it took at least a couple of hours to prepare Orville Burke and my nephew before their scenes.

A savings of many hours in the make-up chair.

(ORVILLE??! At least I think it was Orville sitting in that make-up chair.  90% positive as we discussed it a few years later.)

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #756 on: September 25, 2013, 10:12:26 AM »
BTW, Rich Piana had an ape role in the most recently released Planet of the Apes movie.

Thanks, FUNK!  This is getting more weight training related.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #757 on: September 25, 2013, 10:34:42 AM »
Seymour Konig ... An ape in the making! (Thanks to Muscle Memory)

1952 - Mr America - AAU, 21st / Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, 5th

1953 -Mr Southern California - AAU, 3rd

1961 - Mr America - AAU, 17th

1974 - Masters Mr America - AAU, Winner

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #758 on: September 25, 2013, 11:50:53 AM »
Funk! Thanks. I never saw that photo before. Do you have any idea what year it was taken?

It looks like the 3rd individual is my good friend (now deceased) JACK TYREE.

But Jack's ape role required that he be in the make up chair for a good number of hours before he was called on set. So those APE MASKS were most likely only used for the background apes.

I was on the "Apes" set during the filming when Mark Wahlberg was the major actor and it took at least a couple of hours to prepare Orville Burke and my nephew before their scenes.

A savings of many hours in the make-up chair.

(ORVILLE??! At least I think it was Orville sitting in that make-up chair.  90% positive as we discussed it a few years later.)
jack tyree was the guy who died when he missed the airbag doing a stunt for the movie the sword and the scocerer. he was up 24 meters. earl maynard wrestler, movie star mister universe was also in that movie.
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #759 on: September 25, 2013, 12:21:27 PM »
The most famous logo in Bodybuilding was first drawn on a paper napkin in what restaurant, by whom, who else was at the table? The logo?

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #760 on: September 25, 2013, 12:47:22 PM »
GOOD ONE, MB. Whenever I get the opportunity to talk with Peter G. this is the kind of stuff we talk about.

But I have completely forgotten where and whom and I might have never know in the first place.

Details, please!

Why was he drawn bald?

Pete once told me that those T-shirts kept them in business when he first started in SM.



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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #761 on: September 25, 2013, 01:24:17 PM »
FUNK, Thanks again on your Jack Tyree input!

Jack was a close friend while we served together as Recon Marines. In fact I was his best man in his second wedding and was asked to be his best man in his first which was held in an underwater tank on the Universal lot but I was someplace out of the country doing military stuff.

Somewhere on this computer I have a complete story about Jack's demise but here is some personal stuff that was never mentioned before.

If you've been reading the above posts about "Marines in Hollywood" you might recall that Jack got out of the Corps and moved to LA and got a job as a SCUBA instructor where he met some of the cast and crew  from THE VIRGINIAN tv series.

As a result of that meeting he was invited to work at UNIVERSAL STUDIOS and then help set up an organization that would allow the studio to get involved in underwater photography for future major motion pictures. (I failed to mention this earlier.)

It's been a long while back so the following is a bit fuzzy but that 'envolvement' led to the formation of one or two stuntmen's associations .... Stunts Unlimited and Stuntmen's Association.

Jack's first wife was a stunt-lady at Universal, but they still referred to the one organization
as "Stuntmen's Association".

And  the story goes  that the ladies involved complained so  "Stunts Unlimited" was formulated.

I can't recall those details but back in the 60's the stunt guys and gals were a real tight community and were considered to be the 'real men and real ladies' within the movie making industry. And each individual was in full support of each other.

(A couple of years back, I visited the present day office and all  the stunt people in  the pace were pretty damn young and knew very little about the individuals who started it all in the 60's.  I mentioned Jack's name and one stuntman told me that he recalled the name and told me that the stunt business was much different today ... insinuating that a lot of back stabbing was involved at present.) It would be interesting to hear about this from any GETBIGGER who may be involved in the stunt business today.

Women's lib was not a major factor back then, but the few ladies involved worked damn hard  and their work was definitely appreciated by the stuntmen as  well as the actors who sat b ack while they  watched 'themselves' catch on fire or jump  from moving airplanes, etc., etc.

If I recall correctly, all of this was going on way before the Univertsal Theme Park was developed and that hill above the back lot was mainly used for jungle scenes and whatever type of outdoor scenes which were required  by the script.

Jack was a hard worked and a likeable individual so he had a great reputation within the movie and tv making biz and eventually met a hell of a lot of higher-ups who were always interested in his wellfare.

As a result of the above Jack worked himself up to the top 10% of the guys and gals  involved within the stunt business and he seemed to be working constantly. At 6'2" he even doubled for a very smaller DON ADAMS (Get Smart TV series) who did not want to fall off that collapsing bridge that you pass over today when you make that studio tour.

Jack did it and got paid good money. Actually it was simply a matter of getting wet after a very short fall which he did between scenes of another 'role'.

Jack was encourage to attend an acting school and that's where he met Goldie Hawn and they did a couple of acting scenes together as a class assignment and both agreed that whomever got a big break in the movies, would help the other.

Goldie won and kept the promise and I found Jack in some of the movies that she made.

More to follow.  Anyone recall the sway backed horse in the SPIN and MARTY TV series? He was one of the stuntmen's gold-mine and retired within a green grassed corral of his own.


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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #762 on: September 25, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »
GOOD ONE, MB. Whenever I get the opportunity to talk with Peter G. this is the kind of stuff we talk about.

But I have completely forgotten where and whom and I might have never know in the first place.

Details, please!

Why was he drawn bald?

Pete once told me that those T-shirts kept them in business when he first started in SM.
done at the defunked zucky's restaurant.


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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #763 on: September 25, 2013, 04:39:26 PM »
Drasin told me that at a lunch in Zuckys with Ken Waller and Joe Gold he drew up the Golds logo on a paper knapkin. Why the bald head? Perhaps Ric was looking into his future. He had a wad of hair back then. About 2 years later around '78 he sketched the world's gorilla logo.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #764 on: September 25, 2013, 06:23:45 PM »
Here is the cast from the 1968 Planet of the Apes.

Don't see Seymour or Jerry there. Maybe they weren't listed or they used different names?

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #765 on: September 25, 2013, 06:29:10 PM »
Stuntmovie should register at Ironage US and view the Lydia thread I started there. She posted many, many photos of Zabo and others from the late sixties and early seventies. There is mention of the lads doing the Planet of the Apes. Lots of photos should be saved because they are rare. Zeller took many of them.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #766 on: September 25, 2013, 08:26:25 PM »
Stuntmovie should register at Ironage US and view the Lydia thread I started there. She posted many, many photos of Zabo and others from the last sixties and early seventies. There is mention of the lads doing the Planet of the Apes. Lots of photos should be saved because they are rare. Zeller took many of them.
Zabo was a cool dude best I understand.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #767 on: September 25, 2013, 08:26:42 PM »
Wow, most of the people in that pic are probably dead now.

Some of aren't. I grew up in Southern California, in the 1950's my parents house was in West Los Angeles very near the old 20th Century Fox studios. Every day that the weather was even remotely good, my mom and I would head for the beach. Her favorite beach was State beach which is a couple of miles north of Venice beach. When I got older, I'd hike down to Venice beach to see the bodybuilders working out right off the boardwalk.

The day I turned 18, I moved to Santa Monica right near the Santa Monica pier and just two blocks back from the beach. I can't believe that I could actually afford the rent there, but things were much less expensive than they are today. This was in 1962 and muscle beach was still going strong.

Daring women wore two-piece swimsuits most often with a skirt or panel to cover the pubic area. Most men wore boxer style swimsuits. Brief style suits had to measure a minimum of 5" at the side seam or you could be arrested for indecent exposure. The police actually carried something to measure with. It is funny to think of this today.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #768 on: September 25, 2013, 08:44:51 PM »
Some of aren't. I grew up in Southern California, in the 1950's my parents house was in West Los Angeles very near the old 20th Century Fox studios. Every day that the weather was even remotely good, my mom and I would head for the beach. Her favorite beach was State beach which is a couple of miles north of Venice beach. When I got older, I'd hike down to Venice beach to see the bodybuilders working out right off the boardwalk.

The day I turned 18, I moved to Santa Monica right near the Santa Monica pier and just two blocks back from the beach. I can't believe that I could actually afford the rent there, but things were much less expensive than they are today. This was in 1962 and muscle beach was still going strong.

Daring women wore two-piece swimsuits most often with a skirt or panel to cover the pubic area. Most men wore boxer style swimsuits. Brief style suits had to measure a minimum of 5" at the side seam or you could be arrested for indecent exposure. The police actually carried something to measure with. It is funny to think of this today.

Good to know some of you are still around.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #769 on: September 26, 2013, 12:26:23 PM »
someone just put on the general board the story of jack tyree 's death an account from one of the crew members of that fateful day.
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #770 on: September 27, 2013, 05:27:24 PM »
Removing sticky (for now) to leave more room up top.  Remind me to put it back after this weekend if warranted.
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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #771 on: September 27, 2013, 05:34:41 PM »
 stunt is awesome

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #772 on: September 27, 2013, 06:58:32 PM »
Stuntmovie should register at Ironage US and view the Lydia thread I started there. She posted many, many photos of Zabo and others from the late sixties and early seventies. There is mention of the lads doing the Planet of the Apes. Lots of photos should be saved because they are rare. Zeller took many of them.

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #773 on: September 27, 2013, 11:36:51 PM »

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Re: Muscle Beach History - by Stuntmovie
« Reply #774 on: September 28, 2013, 10:03:19 AM »
BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE OLYMPIA STUFF .... (A break from Muscle Beach History and making movie stuff!)

I Had a short talk with Ron at the Olympia Meet and Greet Thursday evening while he was super-busy shooting tons of photos for this GetBig group and also for Bodybuilding.com (I think).

Whoever thinks that bodybuilding is dead has one foot in the grave and is 'gravely' mistaken.

Just for starters .... the Press Conference at noon on Thursday was packed solid with standing room only and roughly 200 - 300 people locked out hoping some people would leave the showroom so that they could enter, but not one left so the stranded never entered.

Then that evening there was a solid line of fans weaving throughout the casino that went on for about a 100 yards waiting to enter the arena to talk to the competitor.

ANd then once inside, the fans were lined up 100+ deep to meet and greet the likes of Branch and James and Phil and Kai and Jay, and  etc. plus some of the best looking ladys in Lav Vegas that evening ... and that is a very worthy and deserving compliment.

I then I heard that the line at the Expo on Friday morning  appeared to be an hour or so wait just get a $25 ticket!

And once inside the Expo if you wanted to grab a seat in the prejudging section, the minimum price of a ticket was $60. ANd some say it was pretty damn full.

And the Expo itself was packed all day long. (Ain't beren there yet myself, but will be stopping in an hour or so.)

So bodybuilding comps are far from dead and the NPC/IFBB will continue to grow by leaps and 'pounds' thanks or 'no-thanks' to Men's and Women's Physique and the numerous weight, height, and age classes that are becomeing pretty damn popular for the average 'GI Joe and Jayne"!

Pretty soon you'll all be up there on that stage competing for a coveted plastic  trophy and accolades of praise (or rejection) from fellow GetBiggers.

It's inevitable!