House Votes To Cut Food Stamps By $2 Billion

[jon cole]

Damn right - we should have food depots - not these scams and ebt swipe cards.

Beans, Rice, potatoes, etc for these people - no lobsters and steaks

being on food stamp should be a hard enough to convince ppl to leave "the food stamp way of life".
No kfc, all rice and bean in 100lbs bag, one bag per month for a family.

[Mawse]

Food stamps and other subsidies to big food keep the price of low grade meat and grains artificially lowered.

But it's nothing like as bad as the government ignoring big food importing millions of illiterate Mexican illegal rednecks to work on their farms and plants. if we have to gve them money to manipulate the market then I'd rather keep subsidies and food stamps than allow an invasion  of millions of midgets with room temp iqs and broods of kids to be fed on our collective dime. With food stamps.

[arce1988]

  Wrong   
  people are starving the USA
  and people are starving in the World


  NOT one person should starve in this day and age

[Voice of Doom]

  Wrong   
  people are starving the USA
  and people are starving in the World


  NOT one person should starve in this day and age

It's a great idea but platitudes like this can only be done in the context of individual freedom.  Sure, everyone should have enough to eat...but at what cost to other?  And why stop at food?  Morally can we not say that people should also have clothes?  Then what...shelter?  How about education?  Healthcare?  Its an easy slope from there to unemployment and welfare...and what about social security for the elderly?  And then we're right back here where we started.

 All these ideas are grand and moral...to a point...and that point is when the cost of these programs comes from the forceful taking of other people's capital (taxation).

[SF1900]

The ONLY person responsible for feeding a child, and ensuring it's possible to feed a child is the parent.

Agreed. Unfortunately, it does not always work out like this.

Should a 6 month old baby starve to death because his/her parents cannot feed them? The 6 month old is totally helpless in this situation. Cant let the baby/kid die because it just so happens to be born to parents who cant feed him/her.

[RRKore]

The food stamp program has exploded under Obama. So has people getting a check for life through social security disability. Unemployment checks for years under him? Suddenly they find the majority find some kind of job once their unemployment runs out. Free money for farmers is a massive welfare waste. Many "farmers" it's their profit money. In other words they make no money from farming.

If you haven't heard the US funds is running a massive negative cash flow every year. The only way we survive is through loans from countries like China. Bury your head in the sand and kick the can down the road thinking who cares? When it all comes crashing down like Greece or Spain you will see poverty on a scale like you have never seen. When the Republicans try to reign in spending the Democrats say, see what scum bags they are. Don't worry Democrats. There will be basically a one party system soon where the only choice will which Democrat you want instead of Republicans vs Democrats. That's when this country will fail because there isn't enough workers paying taxes to make this country work for the takers.

You sound like you are genuinely concerned about the fiscal health of the USA.  I'm curious, though:  How much does the USA spend on financial help for the alleged poor compared to how much it spends on defense?  If you are genuinely concerned about our nation's financial well-being, it seems to me that this is a question that needs to be considered.  Just as some have made comments that there is no need to give food stamps to folks wearing designer clothes and driving luxury cars, so these same folks should be even more concerned about needless defense spending, don't you think?

[RRKore]

Says the homo from the party with the least amount of commonsense.
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"Commonsense"?  That noun is now one word?  "Look at my thumb, gee you're..."

[RRKore]

There is no way in America 1 in 7 need food stamps.

Really?  Why?

[RRKore]

Here is an interesting question. Do you guys think that if it was a requirement to do 5 hours a month of volunteer work to get food stamps, would a lot of people do that or just not get the food stamps?  I feel if they truly needed them they would.

Question as posed is dumb; Most people (and even animals) will do anything if they would starve otherwise. 
Look at immigrants (legal and otherwise) who pick fruit.  Who the fuck would do that unless they weren't truly desperate to feed themselves or their families?  Whether they should have to do volunteer work at all is a trickier question than the simple-minded folks here realize.  For one thing, what kind of work?  There's only so much picking up garbage on the freeway, is what I'm thinking. You'd have to make sure that the work being done by those receiving food stamps isn't work that's currently being done by someone who's getting paid for it.  Also, to be fair, you'd have to make sure that the benefits of the work done are shared equally by everyone or else there will be some company somewhere that will feel screwed by the fact that it doesn't also get to benefit from free labor.     I'm not saying these kinds of questions/concerns are impossible to resolve, but I am saying that it's a more difficult question than your average teabagger can handle.

[RRKore]

nobody entitled to anythging in this world, its sad but true.

In the world as whole, you're right.  But in the USA, we are entitled to a lot.  By law. You usually seem pretty smart so you do understand this, right?

[RRKore]

Why not cut food stamps and farm subsidies?

» Although politicians love to discuss the plight of small farmers, the vast majority of farm subsidies go to the largest farms. In recent years, the biggest 10 percent of farm businesses have received 72 percent of farm subsidies, according to the Environmental Working Group.

If spending cuts are to be made, then defense should not be spared either.

[RRKore]

  NO one should be hungry in the USA

Absolutely correct.  We are a rich country, we just spend money on the wrong shit. 

I'm sure it's not a popular opinion here, but I think the government should provide food, shelter, education, healthcare, AND childcare to all of its citizens.  Food, shelter, and healthcare should be free but at a decidely un-extravagant level.  Education (up to the highest levels) and childcare should be heavily subsidized on a sliding scale depending on one's financial needs.  The childcare part is key, btw.  I'd also have the government childcare serve doulble-duty as the kids' social services dept -- If they see evidence of abuse happening at home, the parents will stand a good chance to have the kids taken away.

I'm sure that many here will say that such a system will just breed a perpetually dependent class and for some, they'll be right.  Most receiving government assistance, though, are just as materialistic as the rest of us and will want more than the government can give.  In my system, btw, fraudulent abuses of the system would be penalized heavily.  Much more so than now, actually.

[RRKore]

Looking at the numbers, in fiscal year 2011, 36.6% of people on foodstamps are white, 22.8% are black (non-hispanic), 9.6% hispanic, 2.4% Asian.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/ora/MENU/Published/snap/FILES/Participation/2011Characteristics.pdf

Page 59, Table A21.

I always hear all this complaining about this race and that race on food stamps. Here are your numbers. Whites will try to spin this and say because they are over 50% of the population more of them are bound to be on food stamps...bullshit. We're not looking at that, just raw numbers and whites have the most.  

Oh, wait.  Most are white?  Ah, carry on then, Mr. President. 

- Most Getbiggers

[Chadwick The Beta]

the "white" percentage is high because most of the wetbacks list themselves as white

[RRKore]

Hey Getbiggers,

Sorry for trying to rebut every non-troll who seems not to agree with my views about this subject.

Question, though:  How many of you reading comprehension challenged mo-fo's read the OP's post and thought that a bill was passed that cut food stamp spending?  Cuz that's not what it says and that's not what happened.  I'm hardly the most politically astute chap here, but here's the "TL:DR":

On Weds,repubs were trying to pass a bill that (among other things) cuts food stamps.  Vote wasn't for the bill, it was for amendments proposed by dems to eliminate the food stamp cutting part (and amendment was rejected by vote).   Not stated in the OP's post, on Thursday the vote for the bill itself (which retained the foodstamp cutting provisions) FAILED.  Get it, now?  

Real TL;DR:  Food stamp program has NOT been cut.  Now cry me a river, ya non-reading heartless conservatards.

[Tapeworm]

 Get it, now?  

I get why I don't politics.  Maybe if they took a one thing at a time approach instead of all wrapped up in eggroll, and if I could actually vote on it instead of just installing clown 1 or clown 2 to wear a nice suit for a few years while not giving a shit about me.

So no.  Not really.  I don't get it at all.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Like I said before....people need to quit depending on the government and just grow your own food like a real man....takes just a little dirt, some seeds and some fucking water.  Ain't no shame in my game......I got hundreds of dollars in food growing in my yard and its free for me to eat. 

[RRKore]

I get why I don't politics.  Maybe if they took a one thing at a time approach instead of all wrapped up in eggroll, and if I could actually vote on it instead of just installing clown 1 or clown 2 to wear a nice suit for a few years while not giving a shit about me.

Word.

[Tapeworm]

Vince, I have too much land and it's going fallow.  You can grow on it if you want and we can share the profits from the crop.  We could call it sharecropping.

Yes, I'm making a political point here.

[Henda]

Like I said before....people need to quit depending on the government and just grow your own food like a real man....takes just a little dirt, some seeds and some fucking water.  Ain't no shame in my game......I got hundreds of dollars in food growing in my yard and its free for me to eat. 

but veg sucks. Who the fuck wants to live off vegtables?

[King Shizzo]

Like I said before....people need to quit depending on the government and just grow your own food like a real man....takes just a little dirt, some seeds and some fucking water.  Ain't no shame in my game......I got hundreds of dollars in food growing in my yard and its free for me to eat. 

Is there any coincidence that the shapes of these foods make them easily insertable into an anus?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

but veg sucks. Who the fuck wants to live off vegtables?

I eat meat as well.....however vegetables are so expensive in grocery stores...especially fresh organic ones and a lot of times, you're at risk of some serious illnesses from them coming from other countries and picked by unwashed individuals. 

If all you had to buy was meat, then your grocery bill would be quite small.

[Soul Crusher]

I eat meat as well.....however vegetables are so expensive in grocery stores...especially fresh organic ones and a lot of times, you're at risk of some serious illnesses from them coming from other countries and picked by unwashed individuals. 

If all you had to buy was meat, then your grocery bill would be quite small.

Yeah but you toss other salads no? 

[Childish///AMG]

Something simple like this would weed out the abusers real quick.

Sounds "Good" almost like the program were you put in hours to the construction of your new home

[Henda]

I eat meat as well.....however vegetables are so expensive in grocery stores...especially fresh organic ones and a lot of times, you're at risk of some serious illnesses from them coming from other countries and picked by unwashed individuals. 

If all you had to buy was meat, then your grocery bill would be quite small.

i see. Over here its the opposit veg is cheap while chicken and beef is more expensive.