George Zimmerman - Discussion - Guilty or Innocent?

[Soul Crusher]

I have said Zimmerman was an idiot from day 1.   Toxic Brew in this case of an insecure weak weird guy like Zimm and a cocky 17yo.  

I just don't think the case = murder.  Negligent Homicide?  Yes      Murder - No

Are those fronts or teeth...
And to me, he is just kid (17) trying to fit in, there are tons of white kids like him...
I don't even consider him a thug, or a gangsta (glamourizing a certain lifestyle, yes) You know them when you see them...

And as I said, you go way too much to extremes. Get that ish checked out, you are acting like the stereotypical neurotic New Yorker. Everybody is an evil boogeyman ready to pop shots at you.

We don't know how Trayvon would have turned out. He wasn't a perfect kid, he was what I call an exceptionally good kid. But, he wasn't doing time at Juvy for robbery or a shooting, either.
You've condemned a 17 yr old (who is dead). And what I really take personally, is that I have seen kids like Trayvon, who people like you have written off, and have turned themselves around (with some help and guidance).

Like Archer77 we don't know each of their personalities. But what we do know, is at 28 yrs old, Zimmerman was far more of the eff up than Trayvon was...and his father was a judge. And he is from an area that is well to do as well.

[Ronnie Rep]

for SOME people it's about race.  For others its not.  

Race has NOTHING to do with this, in my opinion.   Zimmerman would have acted THE SAME if it was a white kid in a hoodie looking thuggish.  And Zimmerman WOULD NOT have chased condi rice or colin powell.

he chased a person he thought was a dirtbag thief.  He didn't chase him because he was black.  wasn't motivated by race - he wanted to get trayvon's info so he could drive by and steal his bike back.  

I hear people talk about this case all the time.  the only time I hear race come up is on msnbc or fox news - cause that is RATINGS$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Idiot chased idiot and they had a fight/shootout.   half mexican/white vs. black kid.  Would have gone down the same if zimmerman was black and trayvon was half white/mex.  

I pretty much agree with that, but it has everything to do with race, because if there is a not guilty verdict, you will have Rodney King all over again!

[dr.chimps]

Even under these circumstances we have to ask ourselves whether Martain would be justified attacking Zimmerman, a person he didnt know who was following him.

A person who previously accosted him, and then waylaid him. Look, bro, I get your troll skills are poor but help me out.    

[Archer77]

A person who previously accosted him, and then waylaid him. Look, bro, I get your troll skills are poor but help me out.    

I'll try harder next time. 

[BigCyp]

It just occured to me!

What if Trayvon found the golden skittle (sometimes they run that promotion for like $50,000 prize money) and Zimmerman heard him talking to that fat bitch on the phone about his luck....

The whole scene changes now, and you have Travon fighting for his possesions and his life!

[dr.chimps]

It just occured to me!

What if Trayvon found the golden skittle (sometimes they run that promotion for like $50,000 prize money) and Zimmerman heard him talking to that fat bitch on the phone about his luck....

The whole scene changes now, and you have Travon fighting for his possesions and his life!

'Hollywood on the line,' Mr. BigCyp.   

[BigCyp]

'Hollywood on the line,' Mr. BigCyp.   

Yes!!!

It could be like Boyz in the Hood meets Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[Nails]

who the fuck told you that?  that must be compton because it's not the south.

LOL , im born and raised in Inglewood, Ca.


Thats how they Advertise

[Ronnie Rep]

I don't believe Zim set out with malicious intent to kill Martain which is requisite for Murder 2.  He should never have followed the guy.

This, which will result in the prosecution not proving their case!

[tommywishbone]

Thats why they throw Shoes over the electic wires


to inform the white kids what street the drugs are sold on

I personally started that "shoes over the wire" thing, when I would empty the lost & found box at Golds Venice of lost shoes by throwing them over power lines.  There were no drugs involved, just laughing watching peoples face when they saw their shoes hanging up in the air.  True story.

[Parker]

I don't believe Zim set out with malicious intent to kill Martain which is requisite for Murder 2.  He should never have followed the guy.

in some states premeditation can be "in the twinkling of a eye".

[Kahn.N.Singh]

And it allows the black community to externalize all their problems.

Chapter President Jesús Joaquin Neptuno Ruiz y Rosenbaum, RTRP, has declared that The National Association for the Advancement of PerJewvians (NAAPJ) is marshalling its forces of Ashkenazi Mulatto-Mestizos to run the streets of South Florida red should the Zimmerhombre be convicted. In response to the growing risk, local senior housing complexes have raised their threat alert to code Turquoise.

[Devon97]

Not guilty

[dr.chimps]

Not guilty

By way of post-modernism?   

[chaos]

Resident racists GThing and andrewhatever doing alot of whining in this thread.

[Archer77]

Chapter President Jesús Joaquin Neptuno Ruiz y Rosenbaum, RTRP, has declared that The National Association for the Advancement of PerJewvians (NAAPJ) is marshalling its forces of Ashkenazi Mulatto-Mestizos to run the streets of South Florida red should the Zimmerhombre be convicted. In response to the growing risk, local senior housing complexes have raised their threat alert to code Turquoise.

Brilliant!

By way of post-modernism?    

I was just reading something on post-modernism and scientific understanding.  I find this comment hilarious.

[dr.chimps]

I was just reading something on post-modernism and scientific understanding.  I find this comment hilarious.

Trust me. Duh-von does not find this funny, in the least.   

[chaos]

Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed this entire event would have been swept under the rug. But the race mongers threw a giant media fit and made this much more than it really is.

[agenda21nwo]

FOOLS - this is just a distraction to keep your small brains occupied while the government rapes your mothers, wives and daughters.

[Ronnie Rep]

Chapter President Jesús Joaquin Neptuno Ruiz y Rosenbaum, RTRP, has declared that The National Association for the Advancement of PerJewvians (NAAPJ) is marshalling its forces of Ashkenazi Mulatto-Mestizos to run the streets of South Florida red should the Zimmerhombre be convicted. In response to the growing risk, local senior housing complexes have raised their threat alert to code Turquoise.

Excellent !

[agenda21nwo]

Resident racists GThing and andrewhatever doing alot of whining in this thread.

A pair of brainwashed chimps.

[Nails]

in prison or out of prison, Zimmerman will not laugh for long

[dr.chimps]

Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed this entire event would have been swept under the rug. But the race mongers threw a giant media fit and made this much more than it really is.

That's the whole point. It would have been swept under the carpet, like so many others, if the cops' report wasn't so ridiculously unbelievable.  

[BB]

Yeah. Certainly not homicide. Manslaughter 2nd?

Manslaughter may apply. It's a tough one because there are many unknowns. The grounds Zim uses to justify following Martain are flimsy but they aren't illegal.

You could probably get reckless endangerment, and I think negligent homicide/manslaughter could apply. Certainly not any of the murder charges or the higher degree of manslaughter. There isn't the degree of malice on Zimmerman's needed to justify the harder charges. He's just a reckless goof that got more then he could handle.

[Kwon_2]

Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed this entire event would have been swept under the rug. But the race mongers threw a giant media fit and made this much more than it really is.

yeah, Black Thugs killing Whites happens so often and is no biggie.

You see news about Gangrapes, Murder etc where Blacks have assaulted White Couples, Elderly and whatnot.
You see that all the time, (just another day in the US) so of course the media cannot build it up as much as this AshTray Zimmerfella-case.