Author Topic: UK's Scariest Debt Collector (Read 106205 times)

gee38 · « **Reply #150 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:34:44 PM »

a mate of ours used to have an electronic forensics company and the level of info etc that can be got by LE groups is scary.

the cleverest thing the OB did was not try to chase the gear so much- chase the money and cut it off.

without money there is no point in grafting is there?

technology moves fast and you are so right it makes it effectively impossible to get away with it all the time. plus conspiracy charges and association charges can effectively ruin anything before it gets going

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #151 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:49:04 PM »

I loved Alfie Lewis growing up, met him a couple of times but my absolute loyalty was to Brennan. I trained at the Red Triangle and he was my first grader and i can tell you im not surprised in the slightest that he demolished him.

Yeah CS apparently had some sizeable assets signed over to him so they couldnt be repossessed by HMRC for Warren and refused to hand them back. If this is true im not surprised he was done away with.

I also grew up with the Schumachers, one of whom - Brian - was captain of the Olympic boxing team and is lifed off for murder. Man was an absolute animal, he also defeated future world champ Johnny Nelson but went off the rails towards the end of his career. His family also consists of the Prestons & the MacMullens and i would see Paul Mac against almost any man unarmed and back him to win. Unbelievable.

My family were also close to Tony Sinnott. One of the hardest bastards you would ever come across but an absolutely ruthless bully. Neither he nor Brian had the discipline to be successful at boxing but on the streets they were killers.

ukjeff · « **Reply #152 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:51:25 PM »

Is Noel Quarless still around?

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #153 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:54:43 PM »

Quote from: bigmc on July 29, 2013, 01:31:25 PM

especially now with the technology

its almost impossible to hide the money

ive seen convictions on bank work and phone plotting

and im talking 5 plus years conspiracy jobs

One of my mates got 5 years for phone plotting for simply answering his car phone and agreeing to take messages for someone else. It wasnt that simple, his calls were recorded but essentially it was nothing to do with him - he was simply a back up contact for someone if the guy couldnt be reached. He took it on the chin and is doing the stretch as we type.

gee38 · « **Reply #154 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:57:55 PM »

tony was from speke wasn't he

A lad I knew got in his debt and left to live in sheffield but he got found

brian schumacher was an animal

i went red triangle a bit- no punches were pulled- all that lot- terry o neill, spires, frankie brennan were a different class of hard. alfie got off with killing a bloke some time back. they were the same era as panama- in fact if i am right alfie's lot used to provide admiral street police station with security.

gary sandland was another one who could fight like fuck.

no idea about noel quarless being honest

arce1988 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:02:20 PM »

gee38 · « **Reply #156 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:02:30 PM »

CS 'apparently' had this happened

a shipment was sat in amsterdam

the south americans wanted it paid for

CS told them it had been lifted

they asked for the yellow pedal to prove it had been had

he told them to trust him

they asked for it again

he told them to get fucked

either this or the assets thing would add up

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #157 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:02:44 PM »

yeah he ran Speke, if u had a debt with him you were finished. Even the hardmen gave him a wide berth because it just wasnt worth what he would do to you.

RT had an incredible line of talent and still do, when the doors were locked u knew it was gonna be hard to walk out unscathed. Spiers & O'Neill were awesome on the doors.

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #158 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:04:30 PM »

Quote from: gee38 on July 29, 2013, 02:02:30 PM

CS 'apparently' had this happened

a shipment was sat in amsterdam

the south americans wanted it paid for

CS told them it had been lifted

they asked for the yellow pedal to prove it had been had

he told them to trust him

they asked for it again

he told them to get fucked

either this or the assets thing would add up

same south americans that CW worked with? they were gonna bump him off for being too cocky, if u excuse the pun, so it all might tie in together.

gee38 · « **Reply #159 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:08:02 PM »

as i said spiers to me was a different league

a mate of ours was using his indoor go kart place on the wirral to have raves

a group from the 8 wanted a piece of it

spiersy got called in

the lads from the 8 turned up and he said 'there is nothing down for you here lads- best you leave'

they were tooled up but left

thats the level of esteem he was held in

its different times now- all gun happy

a mate of ours son has gone off the rails so we tried to get him to come the gym- his response 'the only muscle you need is this one- he put up his hand and flexed his trigger finger.

its such a shame but in reality if you don't get involved in the graft you can keep away from it. when i quit my activities i erased all my phones and changed my social life completely. its the only way to get out

bradistani · « **Reply #160 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:09:20 PM »

some great stories here fellas keep em coming

any of these nutters featured on danny dyers deadliest men ?

where is conker hiding

gee38 · « **Reply #161 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:09:51 PM »

i believe so but could be wrong

it would add up

the rumour re curtis is he got out and was told he had a debt to sort out and he was forced to go back to graft even on a relatively small level- his credit line with the south americans was done so he had to use his own money up front.

gee38 · « **Reply #162 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:13:15 PM »

frenchy was on the danny dyer thing

he got grief for it as it was classed as grassing- but again nobody actually went for him on it. nobody wants a 4 o clock call from him. he went into money collection too. believe me if you owe him- you pay. or leave for good. and hope he doesn't come after you. which he will.

the only way to avoid it is don't get involved in the game at all. where he was unique is that he was truly a world class fighter- and a sadist with cutlery etc etc. and has a truly spine chilling stare which would do it for most.

bradistani · « **Reply #163 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:19:18 PM »

Quote from: gee38 on July 29, 2013, 02:13:15 PM

frenchy was on the danny dyer thing

he got grief for it as it was classed as grassing- but again nobody actually went for him on it. nobody wants a 4 o clock call from him. he went into money collection too. believe me if you owe him- you pay. or leave for good. and hope he doesn't come after you. which he will.

the only way to avoid it is don't get involved in the game at all. where he was unique is that he was truly a world class fighter- and a sadist with cutlery etc etc. and has a truly spine chilling stare which would do it for most.

which episode.. it'll be up on youtube probably

honest · « **Reply #164 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:21:14 PM »

Truth be told every city in the world has the same type of opportunists' doing the very same thing, and one out away from their mates 90% have nothing, they thrive on your fear and survive and build reputations on acting first and in excess and usually in company. Weak as piss, truth be told after walking through this way of life most of my life I have more respect for any man who works hard pays his bills and raises his family.

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #165 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:23:49 PM »

Frenchies best one was with Ross Kemp IMO, he kept calling him Russ and nobody once corrected him ha ha

gee38 · « **Reply #166 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:31:01 PM »

honest I agree re the respect thing

the bloke holding down two jobs to put food on the table is the real man in my eyes

bradistani · « **Reply #167 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:52:33 PM »

i guess this is frenchy

gee38 · « **Reply #168 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:55:31 PM »

thats him

gee38 · « **Reply #169 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:01:26 PM »

1'41 is the bottom of the street where I reside

Conker · « **Reply #170 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:10:20 PM »

Quote from: bradistani on July 29, 2013, 02:09:20 PM

some great stories here fellas keep em coming

any of these nutters featured on danny dyers deadliest men ?

where is conker hiding

Yeh I've decided to go into the witness protection programme after gee man's latest underworld revelations

fkin idiot gives it the biggun that he's wants to meet etc then is too scared to even talk to me on the phone! lol

just a sad deluded wannabe living in a fantasy world.

gee38 · « **Reply #171 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:13:17 PM »

still no email conkers- speaks volumes

you haven't got a clue

walk on - nothing for you to see here.

as for being 'scared' of a bloke on the internet grow the fuck up. I have no idea who you are or aren't. nor do I care. I have nothing to say to you- I asked for an email address - you haven't bothered. thats good enough for me.

now theres a good lad let the men continue

gee38 · « **Reply #172 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:15:27 PM »

as for sad deluded wannabe

try again

you have no idea who I am. nor what i have done. for a sad deluded wannabe some would say I know my onions.

you've added nothing to this- why? because you don't know anything of interest.

GraniteCityDon · « **Reply #173 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:18:41 PM »

Just as a matter of relevance to this thread, i would class the Devil as a much scarier prospect than Smithy when facing a debt collection.

gee38 · « **Reply #174 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:19:50 PM »

agreed mate

Author Topic: UK's Scariest Debt Collector (Read 106205 times)

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