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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2013, 10:33:36 PM »
Bro--
Different mechanism entirely. Aricept is one of many anticholinesterase agents. What this drug does is prevent you
from breaking down a neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which is only one agent presumed to be deficient in Alzheimer's Disease. By giving the drug you increase the number of 'hits' with AChRs in brain= smarter!!

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 02:35:01 AM »
Since the TBombz experiment/failure, the whole research is on hold.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 03:17:51 AM »
There are anabolics that can increase muscle mass.  Why can't there be a drug that increases nurons or whatever?

???

Does it exist, and we just don't know it?

They do bro, it's called iodine. 

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 03:58:49 AM »
Doesn't cocaine increase the sinapses between neurons a LOT?

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 07:27:06 AM »
Noopept is the latest nootropic.  I'm going to give it a try.

Brain steroids exist.

If you are looking for attention and focus then stims are it. If BDNF is your goal or other neurotrophic factors something like curcumin and alcar would be better, even ssris.

Noopept is good but overstimmed me. Oddly enough the stims like amphetamine don't really do this.

I couldn't take if for more then two days without feeling like I was cracked out.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2013, 10:24:18 AM »
There has long been rumors that scientists working on secret government projects have figured out how to get through the blood/brain barrier.

This has been the dream for a century.

If true, one can actually implant knowledge and skills directly into the human brain thus essentially creating supermen.
The blood/brain barrier, has fuck all to do with memories or the encoding of information.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2013, 10:27:34 AM »
can aderal give you an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over work place competition?

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2013, 10:31:29 AM »
can aderal give you an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over work place competition?


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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2013, 01:32:03 PM »
There are anabolics that can increase muscle mass.  Why can't there be a drug that increases nurons or whatever?

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Does it exist, and we just don't know it?

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2013, 02:01:48 PM »
BOOKS

Books are to the brain as deadlifts are to the muscles.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2013, 03:37:26 PM »
can aderal give you an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over work place competition?

So, you a not dreaming to be mortician any more  ;D
You & Wiggs should exchange "philosophical" ideas  ;D

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2013, 07:11:25 PM »
There's been some buzz around the 'n-back' test, a specific version of which is supposed to make one smarter as measured by IQ tests. The first thing to note is that it isn't clear that this translates to any real-world difference in mental function (you can perform better on an abstract test, hurray!); the second is that the results apparently wear off after a few months of not utilizing the test.

That said, there doesn't seem to be any reason not to include it in a part of a cognitive boosting regime, alongside other methods and/or substances.

An article describing the research behind the test:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304432304576371462612272884.html

A somewhat dopy Silicon Valley investor who believes the test will impact your cognitive competences in real-world situations:
http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-add-2-75-iq-points-per-hour-of-training/

The test itself:
http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/


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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2013, 07:14:43 PM »
Books are to the brain as deadlifts are to the muscles.

Learning so heavy...brain hurt.




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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2013, 07:43:10 PM »
Learning so heavy...brain hurt.





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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2013, 07:44:18 PM »
Did I ever tell you guys about the worst blow job I ever had? 


It was awesome...
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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2013, 04:13:11 AM »
Iodine you stupid drug addicts. Iodine.  Look it up.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2013, 07:42:16 AM »
Adderal and Provigil make me focus like crazy.  I can crank out twice as much work in a day when using either one of these.


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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2013, 08:56:10 AM »
So, you a not dreaming to be mortician any more  ;D
You & Wiggs should exchange "philosophical" ideas  ;D
of course i still am


it's a really nice idea

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2013, 10:11:00 AM »
Iodine you stupid drug addicts. Iodine.  Look it up.

googling it now chief

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2013, 02:00:13 PM »
Of the mentally deficient who were prescribed potentially brainy increasy drugs, how many just sat around watching Home Shopping Network all day just like always? 

Now that's a study.  Gimmie a grant.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2013, 02:36:51 PM »
Ask Wiggs to write down every single thing he puts into his body every month.

do the exact opposite and you'll be smarter in a month.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2013, 09:25:47 AM »
Bros--
There is nothing that can regenerate neurons or glial cells in brain.  Absolutely nothing.

There is, ever, some means to prevent further breakdown of neurons/axons and maybe even help regenerate the damage caused by MS, stroke, and neurodegenerative diseases of brain.

That compound is IGF1-- probably the major proprietory neurotrophic factor responsible for remyelination of nerves. With remyelination there is less axonal loss, and less destruction of CNS neurons.

Yes bros, this is the same shit that your Docs measure to make sure there is enough GH in your system. And yes bros, this is the same shit that can make you huge.

Big muscles with IGF1~= healthy neurons in CNS.

Nice....

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I wouldn't be so quick to state that the formation of new neurons is impossible, in fact, it's not. Neurogenesis has been seen in many mammals, namely in the hippocampus, subventricular zone and olfactory bulb. I also think that increasing BDNF improves plasticity and enhances the rate of neurogenesis. stress induced neurolysis is somewhat reversible.

You also contradicted yourself within your own statement, on one hand saying neurons cannot be regenerated, then in the very next sentence listing several disease states where this is possible. If you are making the assumption this doesn't happen in a "healthy' brain, whatever that is, you would be wrong.

Also, glia aren't even neurons, but immune cells, they are macrophages that have pre-cursor cells which does give them the ability to undergo gliosis.

Just saying.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2013, 09:28:44 AM »
I appreciate the information sir, just what I was looking for. 

Taking my grandmother Araset won't make me smart I guess.................  :(

I don't think he was implying that as the abundance of neurons does not equal processing,encoding speed etc.

Plasticity is the key, improving ACH/DA.

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Re: why don't brain steroids exist?
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2013, 06:20:53 AM »
they do below the evidence
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