Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
July 29, 2014, 03:48:32 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: DARK TRUTH OF A TEST CRASH  (Read 2434 times)
shrek
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1659



View Profile
« on: August 23, 2013, 02:40:33 PM »

I thought maybe talking about the psychological side effects of quote unqoute steroid abuse...... I've been blasting and cruising for 5 years now and the last year and a half has been a roller coaster , my main source dipped out and my domestic source died so I've been running whatever I could find so I would run gear at a lower dose just to maintain and finally ran out during a dark time in my life also wasn't on my prozac for 8 months ..... so what happened ? First the libido tanked hard didn't even want to be touched then came bad depression and very bad anxiety.... thoughts of truly grabbing one of my AR15 and eating a full metal jacket , I would wake up and immediately stated to worry about my health and if I had deadly viruses and all kinds of fucked up shit. Constantly angry and ready to fight at any disrespect , would yell at my workers and threaten them an ass whooping if they made another mistake...... so if any of y'all have had similar issues post them up because there is some bad side effects on not being prepared to come off and someone should think about that before neglecting a proper PCT ....... OR I COULD JUST BE A FUCKING NUT JOB lol
Report to moderator   Logged
BodyMachine
Getbig III
***
Posts: 619


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 03:10:55 PM »

Lol I don't think ur a nut job. Hormones play a huge part in regulating mood. I was on edge like crazy when on a gram of tren, hated ppl. Anyway hope you get well
Report to moderator   Logged
ESFitness
Getbig V
*****
Posts: 4079


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 03:32:35 PM »

I thought maybe talking about the psychological side effects of quote unqoute steroid abuse...... I've been blasting and cruising for 5 years now and the last year and a half has been a roller coaster , my main source dipped out and my domestic source died so I've been running whatever I could find so I would run gear at a lower dose just to maintain and finally ran out during a dark time in my life also wasn't on my prozac for 8 months ..... so what happened ? First the libido tanked hard didn't even want to be touched then came bad depression and very bad anxiety.... thoughts of truly grabbing one of my AR15 and eating a full metal jacket , I would wake up and immediately stated to worry about my health and if I had deadly viruses and all kinds of fucked up shit. Constantly angry and ready to fight at any disrespect , would yell at my workers and threaten them an ass whooping if they made another mistake...... so if any of y'all have had similar issues post them up because there is some bad side effects on not being prepared to come off and someone should think about that before neglecting a proper PCT ....... OR I COULD JUST BE A FUCKING NUT JOB lol

that could apply to a majority of us who use AAS in the first place. lol

i'd stay on at least 100mg/wk forever.
Report to moderator   Logged
Borracho
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8253



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 04:13:23 PM »

that could apply to a majority of us who use AAS in the first place. lol


 Grin

Lol I don't think ur a nut job. Hormones play a huge part in regulating mood. I was on edge like crazy when on a gram of tren, hated ppl. Anyway hope you get well

Oh yeah big time.
Report to moderator   Logged
Overload
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 6846

KO Artist


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 05:02:00 PM »

I'm a very level headed guy, but when i came off from a 3 year blast/cruise i felt like shit and was slightly depressed for a few months.  I also was worrying about things that i never worried about.  Our HPTA controls so many things that we take for granted and when your Test is zero and your estrogen is high you will be very emotional.

For 2-3 months after i came off i just didn't feel like doing anything.  I barely went to the gym and struggled to even go to work.  This is one reason why i think people who decide to alter their body's hormone profile better research and understand what they are doing.

This game isn't as easy as so many people think, i know a lot of guys who sunk into depression after coming off long cycles, but everyone is different and has a different way of coping with these issues.

PCT helps, but understanding that it's coming and preparing your mind for the upcoming event is a very good idea as well.  I also know guys who came off long cycles with no problems whatsoever, so it's very different depending on your mentality IMO.


Cool
Report to moderator   Logged
Cholo4Life
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 2035

Team Myostatin Deficient


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 05:20:06 PM »

I'm a very level headed guy, but when i came off from a 3 year blast/cruise i felt like shit and was slightly depressed for a few months.  I also was worrying about things that i never worried about.  Our HPTA controls so many things that we take for granted and when your Test is zero and your estrogen is high you will be very emotional.

For 2-3 months after i came off i just didn't feel like doing anything.  I barely went to the gym and struggled to even go to work.  This is one reason why i think people who decide to alter their body's hormone profile better research and understand what they are doing.

This game isn't as easy as so many people think, i know a lot of guys who sunk into depression after coming off long cycles, but everyone is different and has a different way of coping with these issues.

PCT helps, but understanding that it's coming and preparing your mind for the upcoming event is a very good idea as well.  I also know guys who came off long cycles with no problems whatsoever, so it's very different depending on your mentality IMO.


Cool

A great argument for never coming off.
Report to moderator   Logged
shrek
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1659



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 06:00:29 PM »

Thanks OVER I was wondering why I was extremely worried about things that didn't bother me before
Report to moderator   Logged
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 04:48:28 AM »

I have never crashed that hard but I have never ran long cycles and have always used PCT and have stayed off the same amount of time I was on. The onlyb time I got out of hand was my very first year of use but I didn't have that hard of a crash I took a few weeks off from the gym and felt lazy but i got back in the gym after just 2 weeks and just trained naturally for awhile. But I have seen guys go really crazy!

I know a guy who crashed really bad and he lost his whole business.First I would go to the shop and he would be drubnk off of vodka at 1PM  I wondered what happened to him because he literally went missing. the shop was closed when it should of been opened and one night I went by the shop again and i saw a lady moving the products out the back and I asked what happened to him and she told me he went on a huge drinking binge and they found him all fucked up in the closet! They got him some help but I have not seen him since. He had just came off a cycle and he was using PCT items but he stopped working out and started drinking hard! It was sad to see. I am glad somebody found him before he ended it all. This guy was not right mentally as it was he had killed a man years before and did a nice prison bid so he had a few screws loose as it was.
Report to moderator   Logged

J
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 04:52:41 AM »

I thought maybe talking about the psychological side effects of quote unqoute steroid abuse...... I've been blasting and cruising for 5 years now and the last year and a half has been a roller coaster , my main source dipped out and my domestic source died so I've been running whatever I could find so I would run gear at a lower dose just to maintain and finally ran out during a dark time in my life also wasn't on my prozac for 8 months ..... so what happened ? First the libido tanked hard didn't even want to be touched then came bad depression and very bad anxiety.... thoughts of truly grabbing one of my AR15 and eating a full metal jacket , I would wake up and immediately stated to worry about my health and if I had deadly viruses and all kinds of fucked up shit. Constantly angry and ready to fight at any disrespect , would yell at my workers and threaten them an ass whooping if they made another mistake...... so if any of y'all have had similar issues post them up because there is some bad side effects on not being prepared to come off and someone should think about that before neglecting a proper PCT ....... OR I COULD JUST BE A FUCKING NUT JOB lol

Prozac is some awful stuff! You don;t want to stop prozac cold turkey. I am sure that did not help. I couldn't even stand prozac for a month I wanted off immediately but the doctor still made me taper off even though I had just taken it for a month. All I wanted was xanax but they made me try ativan and prozac first. the ativan was good but the prozac was miserable and I only got up to 20mg a day and only used it for about a month just long enough for it to kick in it was the worst stuff ever! I am not sure how that medication helps anybody but then again I know the medications like xanax might not help other people.
Report to moderator   Logged

J
Overload
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 6846

KO Artist


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 09:34:03 AM »

A great argument for never coming off.

Exactly! Grin

These days i do little blasts throughout the year, but i mainly stay on HRT doses.


Cool
Report to moderator   Logged
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2013, 01:27:57 AM »

HCG is a great drug to combat these horrible crashes but big amounts and for longer then what most text says how to use it, also DHEA is a great OTC product some of you should try it. I never hear of many people using DHEA for PCT it seems like I am the only one who uses huge amounts of HCG and DHEA. if you talk to powerlifters who stay on all year and bodybuilders who stay on all year DHEA can help big time but HCG seems to be the most important especially in big amounts and for long stretches
Report to moderator   Logged

J
kushtestgrowth
Getbig II
**
Gender: Male
Posts: 245


i think i'm big meech


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 05:08:35 PM »

HCG is a great drug to combat these horrible crashes but big amounts and for longer then what most text says how to use it, also DHEA is a great OTC product some of you should try it. I never hear of many people using DHEA for PCT it seems like I am the only one who uses huge amounts of HCG and DHEA. if you talk to powerlifters who stay on all year and bodybuilders who stay on all year DHEA can help big time but HCG seems to be the most important especially in big amounts and for long stretches

why do you still cycle it makes no sense.   you have endless amounts of alpha pharm gear which you never shut up about and youre taking a cpl hundred mgs of roxis per day. u absolutely have no natural test.  why do u "cycle" off test and use pct?
Report to moderator   Logged
tstmaniac
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1923


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2013, 05:42:01 PM »

I thought maybe talking about the psychological side effects of quote unqoute steroid abuse...... I've been blasting and cruising for 5 years now and the last year and a half has been a roller coaster , my main source dipped out and my domestic source died so I've been running whatever I could find so I would run gear at a lower dose just to maintain and finally ran out during a dark time in my life also wasn't on my prozac for 8 months ..... so what happened ? First the libido tanked hard didn't even want to be touched then came bad depression and very bad anxiety.... thoughts of truly grabbing one of my AR15 and eating a full metal jacket , I would wake up and immediately stated to worry about my health and if I had deadly viruses and all kinds of fucked up shit. Constantly angry and ready to fight at any disrespect , would yell at my workers and threaten them an ass whooping if they made another mistake...... so if any of y'all have had similar issues post them up because there is some bad side effects on not being prepared to come off and someone should think about that before neglecting a proper PCT ....... OR I COULD JUST BE A FUCKING NUT JOB lol

I've been off for awhile and decided to stay off for atleast a few more years because I hate shutting myself down..you have to ask yourself, do the benefits really outweigh the risks?
Report to moderator   Logged
shrek
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1659



View Profile
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 05:47:26 PM »

An UPDATE if anyone cares .....  I've been on 700 mg proviron with a test blend/Masteron equal to 700 mg a week , and quality letro plus back on my bp meds and prozac.... I feel great and everyone has noticed as well.... this shit is no joke . For anybody that says there is no major side effects to using gear is full of shit .now I'm not saying don't use , all I have to say is prepare yourself . And with all my studies and forum research , I gave not seen much talk about the psychological sides
Report to moderator   Logged
shrek
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1659



View Profile
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 06:04:25 PM »

No , it doesn't ......... what do you mean
Report to moderator   Logged
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2013, 02:47:14 AM »

why do you still cycle it makes no sense.   you have endless amounts of alpha pharm gear which you never shut up about and youre taking a cpl hundred mgs of roxis per day. u absolutely have no natural test.  why do u "cycle" off test and use pct?

these days I don't cycle off anymore I am on everyday 4IU HGH and a shot of watson Test depot weekly. It was when I was younger and ran way higher dosed cycles when I cycled off for as long as I was on. I really only used real hard for the 1st year every year after that I ran fewer cycles and always stayed off for as long as I was on and used hCG,DHEA and sometimes just good OTC products. It was when I got hit by the drunk driver and used roxis and oxycontin everyday when my test got low enough to get HRT and I use watson Test depot 200mg a week and 4 Iu HGH a day. I don't go over those amounts anymore. no reason too. your right though the roxis fucked up my test level bad although it is odd if you have a women around you you can get libido rushes it is only when you are alone you feel like your dick is dead. actually sex is way better on oxys and xanax then off of them you can fuck longer and it is just great.
Report to moderator   Logged

J
Mad-scientist
Getbig II
**
Posts: 225


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2013, 04:36:15 AM »

It's funny how most people don't realize how bad opiates will lower natural test production.... Ive always wondered to myself if there are any recreational drugs that actually raise testosterone or momentarily raise it. Lol it seems like the guys who do coke a lot are always fucking a girl. I think that a lot of the stuff in todays society not just drugs but chemicals in the air and in the processed foods we eat lower natural testosterone a lot. I think that has a lot to do with the obesity and depression problems in the united states. And why a lot of people seem to just be drones now days following orders. I notice with people who use steroids or who are highly athletic and probably have high testosterone levels. They are nearly impossible to control or get them to do what you want them to. I've had my testosterone crash plenty of times in my life and I fucking hate it. I can sense what is wrong but without the testosterone in my body I just feel timid and weak. Hopefully I never have to go through that again.
Report to moderator   Logged
Borracho
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8253



View Profile
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2013, 08:56:00 AM »

An UPDATE if anyone cares .....  I've been on 700 mg proviron with a test blend/Masteron equal to 700 mg a week , and quality letro plus back on my bp meds and prozac.... I feel great and everyone has noticed as well.... this shit is no joke . For anybody that says there is no major side effects to using gear is full of shit .now I'm not saying don't use , all I have to say is prepare yourself . And with all my studies and forum research , I gave not seen much talk about the psychological sides


Nobody ever wants to talk about it but it happens. Emotional and mood changes are very likely to happen when playing around with your body's hormones on or coming off. I think it happens to everyone to a certain extent but there's some people that are more susceptible to them. Like those who are prone to gyno, acne, hair loss etc. and others who don't suffer from them.

And damn, even food restriction affects my mood and most people I know. Why it is so hard for some to accept that emotional and mood changes are real side effects of gear...I will never know.
Report to moderator   Logged
Borracho
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8253



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 08:58:51 AM »

Oh and you really think you need the prozac ?

I always hear how great most people feel on test....
Report to moderator   Logged
shrek
Getbig IV
****
Posts: 1659



View Profile
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2013, 12:34:41 PM »

Oh and you really think you need the prozac ?

I always hear how great most people feel on test....
I was prescribed it before I started juicing , I have an aggression type of depression some say its bipolar others say its depression , I've always had a thing for uppers , which make you release serotonin and that's what the prozac regulates so when I come off the prozac I start to get irritated very easy and some people think its funny to fuck with me and push my buttons , I don't see it funny lol
Report to moderator   Logged
Borracho
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8253



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2013, 01:01:45 PM »

I was prescribed it before I started juicing , I have an aggression type of depression some say its bipolar others say its depression , I've always had a thing for uppers , which make you release serotonin and that's what the prozac regulates so when I come off the prozac I start to get irritated very easy and some people think its funny to fuck with me and push my buttons , I don't see it funny lol

Trying to control your mood when using gear has to be nearly impossible when you already suffer from stuff like depression, anxiety, a quick temper etc. We all have ups and downs in life and dealing with them even naturally can be challenging. Its easier to blame drugs than your own brain chemistry and how we react to the outside environment which is why I can understand people saying stuff like roid rage is a myth. I've felt mood changes from gear but also from dieting, nicotine withdrawals, long periods of shitty weather or stupid people but I've always managed to control myself.

As you said there's not much talk about the psychological sides...I guess its hard for us to look at ourselves and admit we're not perfect. Talking about emotions and mood is for homothekshuals I guess. lol
Report to moderator   Logged
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2013, 09:01:53 PM »

It's funny how most people don't realize how bad opiates will lower natural test production.... Ive always wondered to myself if there are any recreational drugs that actually raise testosterone or momentarily raise it. Lol it seems like the guys who do coke a lot are always fucking a girl. I think that a lot of the stuff in todays society not just drugs but chemicals in the air and in the processed foods we eat lower natural testosterone a lot. I think that has a lot to do with the obesity and depression problems in the united states. And why a lot of people seem to just be drones now days following orders. I notice with people who use steroids or who are highly athletic and probably have high testosterone levels. They are nearly impossible to control or get them to do what you want them to. I've had my testosterone crash plenty of times in my life and I fucking hate it. I can sense what is wrong but without the testosterone in my body I just feel timid and weak. Hopefully I never have to go through that again.

I don't think coke raises testosterone but it does make you horny and want sex same with ecstasy when your on ecstasy that might raise your test level because I always feel extremly horny and want to fuck like crazy . I think most people boys and girls have the same reaction from ecstasy and cocaine. All the pron-stars use cocaine especially back in the late 70's early 80's you can fuck like a animal on cocaine and especially ecstasy.
Report to moderator   Logged

J
Mad-scientist
Getbig II
**
Posts: 225


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2013, 02:05:29 AM »

lol Cialis and coke I guess would be the porn star stack then ha ha ha ha
Report to moderator   Logged
whitewidow
Moderator
Getbig V
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 8087

Getbig!


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2013, 02:27:44 AM »

lol Cialis and coke I guess would be the porn star stack then ha ha ha ha

well I know all the male porn stars usually pop viagras more then cialis and most all porn stars use coke. with the opiates like I said your libidon is crashed it isn;t like when you are a teenager and wake up with a boner but when you have a hot chick with you even on opiates and benzos you will get horny and be able to fuck her at least I am able to. I actually prefer to be a little numbed out because it makes me last alot longer. But of coursee it is best to be off of all drugs and have a good natural testosterone level. I think if you are not trying to go pro you should do shorter cycles and make sure you know how to use your PCT items correctly that is the biggest nistake people make. HCG is the best PCT item there is and it does not hurt to use HCG on cycle and use alot of it and for a long duration off cycle not just a few shots like so many profiles recommend. I have not really experienced a sever harsh crash like shrek has or like I have seen a few of my friends go through. I had a friend flip out severly and was suicidal.he ran a good PCT as well it just fucked with his emotions real bad for some reason he started drinking vodka for breakfast and stopped working out.
Report to moderator   Logged

J
shamrockbear1
Getbig I
*
Posts: 2


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2013, 09:48:41 AM »

An UPDATE if anyone cares .....  I've been on 700 mg proviron with a test blend/Masteron equal to 700 mg a week , and quality letro plus back on my bp meds and prozac.... I feel great and everyone has noticed as well.... this shit is no joke . For anybody that says there is no major side effects to using gear is full of shit .now I'm not saying don't use , all I have to say is prepare yourself . And with all my studies and forum research , I gave not seen much talk about the psychological sides

700mg of Proviron that doesn't seem right what's the point of such a high does? I don't think it would help...
Report to moderator   Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Theme created by Egad Community. Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!