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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2013, 07:27:15 PM »

no, Ronnie's front lat spread at his peak even beats a 93 dorian's at his peak, and kill's Phil's too:


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« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2013, 07:28:53 PM »

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you can see why a peak Ronnie (99) wins the pose.

all three have great wide lats.

but dorian's quads, arms and chest sucked, as do phil's.

Ronnie has the complete package. amazing striated pecs, great arms and quads that crush the other two wannabe's.
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« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2013, 07:29:53 PM »

To be honest I've always liked Dorian FLS more than Ronnies. I think it's just a posing thing with Ronnie. He never was that great of a poser but he had so much muscle it didn't matter what he did. People were just in awe.
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« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2013, 07:33:48 PM »

ps even Ronnie back in 1996 crushes Phil: Tongue


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« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2013, 07:37:21 PM »

Unlike Ronnie, Phil doesn't should like he has a mouth full of marbles when he speaks.   

I'm not that much of a fan of his, but his videos were insanely funny.

There was this girl I worked with that obviously knew I lifted a lot.

She busted out with "light weight" and "yeah buddy". I about fell down laughing for real.

I was like how do you know that shit. I guess her brother lifted, but that was classic.

I bought her a few beers that night.
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« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2013, 07:41:07 PM »

Ronnie looked really good at the 96 Olympia. To me that physque he presented then was closer to beating Dorian than Shawn or Kevins at the time.

This little clip is the closest you see of them on stage together posing like that to their primes. with Ronnie peaking in terms of overall look in 99 and Dorian in 93 and 95 and 96. Dorian was done by 97. I won't disgrace him by using that year.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BAaWfpCQM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BAaWfpCQM</a>
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« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2013, 08:07:23 PM »

no, Ronnie's front lat spread at his peak even beats a 93 dorian's at his peak

No, not that pose.
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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2013, 08:11:39 PM »

ps even Ronnie back in 1996 crushes Phil: Tongue

That pic of Ronnie is from  1999.
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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2013, 08:13:30 PM »

They weighted very close in those years right? So I assume their physiques are very comparable as well.

And if you are going to say Ronnie totally smoked Phil, be prepared back it up with mandatory comparison pics, thanks.

Edit: here is a comparison with a 2004 (?) Coleman. Clearely bigger but also much less detail so Im not sure he would win.





Maybe just me....    but it almost looks like Phil crossed the line and is closer to the judges here ??
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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2013, 08:22:47 PM »

That pic of Ronnie is from  1999.

well that explains it then Cool
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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2013, 11:06:31 PM »

Image composit of both flexing.

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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2013, 11:34:33 PM »

And here we go again.....
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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2013, 11:36:45 PM »

epic scaling Roll Eyes

phil looks like a little homo

ron with his handsome, chiseled features will always win

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« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2013, 01:05:44 AM »

^
you can see why a peak Ronnie (99) wins the pose.

all three have great wide lats.

but dorian's quads, arms and chest sucked, as do phil's.

Ronnie has the complete package. amazing striated pecs, great arms and quads that crush the other two wannabe's.

Fuckin'A, Hulkster, you should really try to get Ronnie's cock out of your mouth for a second. Your brain would maybe get a much-needed dose of oxygen and you'd regain a part of your senses. Difference in quality in those pics + the fact they are not taken from the same distance make your comparison foolish. This is a FRONT LAT SPREAD. I'm not a Dorian fan but Dorian kills them as far as the lat spread. Ronnie is not hitting the pose right. Even his pecs (sure, at this distance you can see the striations, Bozo, but can 't see them on Dorian 'cause the pic is takeN from almost outside the room) are poorly presented here. He has just arms and delts over Dorian, midsection is Dorian's here, Dorian quads actually look better (once again because he hits the pose better) and Dorian has him easily on the calves.

BTW: ND, fuck you too.  Grin
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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2013, 03:23:29 AM »

Image composit of both flexing.



composite of ronnie peaking and killing dorian: Cool


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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2013, 03:39:59 AM »

There is 1 good BDB pic of Phil. That pic is edited to the best quality, and his stance/body angle is ideal. Please don't compare it to Coleman. The scale is totally wrong; Ronnie is leaning forward, and the lightning blurs his with (as opposed to the lightninh in Phils case)

One thing not many mention is that Phil does not look very good in many of the mandatories.

FDB: Descent. Great arms, but in this pose you really see that the arms do not stand out compared to many other bodybuilders. A part from the amrs, this pose is not very good for Phil, especially if he stands on the line...
FLS: Hundreds of bodybuilders beat Phile here. No torso... Narrow/short chest
SC: Descent, nothing special. Many contemporaries just as good if not better
Abs and thighs: Not a good pose for Phil.
ST: Very good
BDB: Very good but not extraordinary. Lack og size
BLS: Not a good pose at all
Front relaxed: Descent, but nothing special (ecpecially if on the line....)

The bottom line:  If you assess the other greats like Haney, Ronnie, Yates...they all are among the all-time best in many of the mandatories. Phil is not close to an all-time best in any of the mandatories (perhaps except the side triceps, but that is not the most significant pose...)

I will post some pics in tribute to RC


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« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2013, 03:41:38 AM »

Few more


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« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2013, 03:42:57 AM »

Few more


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« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2013, 03:45:10 AM »

Ronnie 2000 - very underrated. Though a bit of a belly (nothing compared to many of todays bodybuilders...). Muscle-wise, he was insane...


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« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2013, 03:46:38 AM »

More 2000


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« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2013, 03:47:51 AM »

More RC


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« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2013, 03:49:11 AM »

98


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« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2013, 03:50:30 AM »

Few more


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« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2013, 03:53:26 AM »

A last word. Don't forget that the pics of pros today - like Phil - are doctored color- and contrastwise - that really makes a significant impact. Most of the pics of Ronnie (and certainly Yates....Haney etc) are not altered to such an extent (except for a few in the truce tread...).
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« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2013, 09:29:56 AM »

everytime i take a front lat spread pic of myself and then look at it i want to take a rope and hang myself


a cruel pose for sure
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