yes rhul dennis ... etc.. are good..
but not elite .. due to genetics...
they are blocky....
you would honestly take rhul over someone like flex wheeler...
look at flex muscle shape.... his arms were enormous.. bigger than rhuls.. though rhul mihgt outweigh him by..50 lbs..
it isnt overly hard for a guy with large bone structure to train juice and be big also carrying a a good amount bodyfat ....people will always take the ripped guy with proportions... over him no matter how big he gets.. simply coleman... wheeler.. is the middle ground large... but with great genetics... low bodyfat... great mscle shape tight waistline (well early coleman) also dillet..
u can always tell a guy with a great physique... if when he takes off hip top he looks better than when he had it on.. all those old juiced up guys look great in a t shirt.. take of the tshirt... and the gut folds out.. not impressive just a fat guy with some muscle.. that to me doesnt constitute a good physique...
u eather have the genetics or not...
simple
what are u going to do if you dont have those Flex Wheeler genetics (jay cutler) give up?,turn ur back on something u love??
fawk no...look at jay number 2 in the world!(built like a refrigerator tho)
i prefer the "herculean look over the rich jones/flex wheeler look myself)
jay looks huge in clothes and out of them
rich jones looks small clothed ,great when he is in shorts tank-top
id rather look huge in both................agai
n just my preference