When your with a chick, theres no point to just sticking the tip in. It will just torture you. That being said, if your gonna do something, do it all or nothing. If Skip did use, he looks like shit, because the way that man trains, if he was on the pin, Skip would be a PRO. Hes a natty, prob one of the best in the game. Comparing him with Shawn is absurd. Shawn was great on another level. Even if that level required 100's perhaps 1000's of $$$ running through his veins. They are both top notch bodybuilders, just each on seperate levels.